Zimbabwe gives white farmers 90 days to vacate farms in latest land grabs.

RobYourBuilder

Cape Town – White former farmers should be given 90 days to vacate their farms if the land they occupy has been allocated to a black person to avoid legal battles, the Zimbabwean government has reportedly said.

According to the News Day, Land and Rural Resettlement Minister Douglas Mombeshora said government would not allow contract farming arrangements where the indigenous farm owners would get only 10% of total produce while their white partners grabbed the lion’s share.

Only white farmers specialising in dairy and cattle breeding or those who openly support the ruling Zanu-PF party would be spared, a Daily News report added.

This comes a few days after Vice PresidentEmmerson Mnangagwa said Zimbabwe was set tointensify its land grabs, targeting the country’s remaining white farmers and those with multi farms.

At least 4 000 white commercial farmers were evicted from their farms.

The land seizures were often violent, claiming the lives of several white farmers during clashes with veterans of Zimbabwe's 1970s liberation struggle.

Mugabe made headlines last year when he vowed that whites would never be allowed to own land in Zimbabwe.

Mugabe at the time also warned black Zimbabweans against partnering with whites in agriculture deals.

http://www.news24.com/Africa/Zimbabwe/Zim-set-to-give-white-farmers-90-days-to-vacate-farms-20150122

Zimbabwe was once so rich in agricultural produce that it was dubbed the "bread basket" of Southern Africa, while it is now struggling to feed its own population.[42] About 45 percent of the population is now considered malnourished.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_reform_in_Zimbabwe

From the bread basket of Africa to a basket case. Western leaders need to cut off all aid and reimpose sanctions. Perhaps European countries could offer the Whites relocation here and a pathway to citizenship? They are clearly not wanted in Zim, so perhaps giving them the option of returning to the mothership could help sort this mess.

jank

Isn't Socialism great!

RobertKK

You would think the idiot would have learned from the first time he did this.
It would be like letting a city slicker with no knowledge of farming to be given a farm and expect them to know how to operate it.
It failed the first time and this is just more of a failed racist policy.

The King of Moo

No, let's not invite them here.

They'd just take our farms, and then we'd end up taking it back off their grandchildren and then we'd look bad.

Also, I don't want to generalise, but they'd all be really, really racist.

super_furry

How's Zimbabwe's economy doing?

Chemical Byrne

RobertKK wrote: »

......It failed the first time and this is just more of a failed racist policy.

Ah now, sure don't you know black people can't be racist.
You can only be a racist if you're white.

RobYourBuilder

The King of Moo wrote: »

They'd just take our farms, and then we'd end up taking it back off their grandchildren and then we'd look bad.

They didn't take anyones farm. They were the ones who set them up.

pablomakaveli

This policy has worked so well in turning Zimbabwe from the bread basket of Southern Africa to the basket case.

The King of Moo

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

They didn't take anyones farm. They were the ones who set them up.

On whose land?

Kristopherus

Mugabe and his mob must be the most rottenest bunch of scumbags to ever come to power on this planet.

Skylinehead

Kristopherus wrote: »

Mugabe and his mob must be the most rottenest bunch of scumbags to ever come to power on this planet.

Must.Not.Godwin.

Magico Gonzalez

Skylinehead wrote: »

Must.Not.Godwin.

Probably not even the worst African leader in fairness. Scarily, there are worse.

SeanW

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

From the bread basket of Africa to a basket case. Western leaders need to cut off all aid and reimpose sanctions. Perhaps European countries could offer the Whites relocation here and a pathway to citizenship? They are clearly not wanted in Zim, so perhaps giving them the option of returning to the mothership could help sort this mess.

White people in difficulty? Not only are they white, they're productive, with useful skills with something to contribute.

The left doesn't care about such people, only jihadists and thugs and then mainly if they're brown.

I can't see this going down very well with the Left. Oh wait ...

The King of Moo wrote: »

No, let's not invite them here.

They'd just take our farms (wtf? :eek:), and then we'd end up taking it back off their grandchildren and then we'd look bad.

Also, I don't want to generalise, but they'd all be really, really racist.

RobYourBuilder

SeanW wrote: »

White people in difficulty? Not only are they white, they're productive, with useful skills with something to contribute.

There are less than 30k of them left, the farmers are having their lands confiscated and your mans first thought is that they shouldn't be allowed back return to Europe as they "are really, really racist."

Mad stuff.

iDave

This is fascism right or at least apartheid? A government singling out a particular ethnic group and denying them their human rights.

inforfun

Ahh...

Mr Robert Mugabe.
The poster boy of the gutmensch of the 70's/80's with his pal Nkono.

Funny you dont hear the gutmensch anymore about Robbie.

CruelCoin

SeanW wrote: »

they're productive, with useful skills with something to contribute.

Not particularly.

Agriculture as a whole in Europe is set up so that people delberately underproduce, propped up by the CAP etc. Last thing we need is more farmers, experienced or no.

Gatling

Can't see why a single armed drone can't send a message directly to mugabe ,

wilser

Gatling wrote: »

Can't see why a single armed drone can't send a message directly to mugabe ,

Do you think if he sent one here we'd "get the message"

Gatling

wilser wrote: »

Do you think if he sent one here we'd "get the message"

What message is that No White allowed

RobYourBuilder

The King of Moo wrote: »

On whose land?

It was uncultivated land. Look, colonialism was horrendous but this no way to right that wrong. Those having their farmland confiscated were not responsible and should not be forced to pay for the sins of their forefathers.

stevedublin

They should learn from the white masters and engage in QE to stimulate the economy.

Menas

To be honest I am surprised that there are any white farmers left in Zimbabwe after the 1999 purge.
Mugabe does not give a flying **** what we think of him. His primary concern is keeping power at any cost and lining his own pockets..and those of this closest.
The GDP has soared in the past 3 years ($400 to 900) so perhaps this has emboldened him.

bb1234567

30k people is so few Id say lots of european countries take in that many immigrants per month

Gatling

bb1234567 wrote: »

30k people is so few Id say lots of european countries take in that many immigrants per month

Germany took in 200,000 refugees last year if I remember correctly,

There's a few families from Zimbabwe living in direct provison here while waiting on aslyum claims who were forced to flee after their homes and farms were taken off them.

bb1234567

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

It was uncultivated land. Look, colonialism was horrendous but this no way to right that wrong. Those having their farmland confiscated were not responsible and should not be forced to pay for the sins of their forefathers.

I know what you mean but they also don't deserve to benefit from the sins of their forefathers either

Sociopath2

I wonder would Israel go the same way if there was a reversal of power there?

I'd imagine there'd be a lot of people looking to even the score with the Zionists.

bb1234567

Sociopath2 wrote: »

I wonder would Israel go the same way if there was a reversal of power there?

I'd imagine there'd be a lot of people looking to even the score with the Zionists.

The formerly oppressed will always treat the former oppressors like **** if they get into power no matter who or where it is

mikeym

Zimbabwe is being badly mismanaged.

Mugabee should have retired decades ago.

Nodin

bb1234567 wrote: »

I know what you mean but they also don't deserve to benefit from the sins of their forefathers either

Land retaken is given to ZPF cronies, not farmers, and as such is just theft with knobs on rather than any attempt at redistribution.

RobYourBuilder

bb1234567 wrote: »

I know what you mean but they also don't deserve to benefit from the sins of their forefathers either

There are a lot of people in Ireland who benefit today due to past wrongs. Should we confiscate their land? Of course not. Such an idea is preposterous.

Sociopath2

bb1234567 wrote: »

The formerly oppressed will always treat the former oppressors like **** if they get into power no matter who or where it is

Would you see it going to the extent that Zimbabwe has?

IamNotNumber

So unfair for these farmers who spend a lifetime building up their lands.They need a few bull Mccabe characters over there.Mugabe wouldn't have evicted the Bull!

Eramen

iDave wrote: »

This is fascism right or at least apartheid? A government singling out a particular ethnic group and denying them their human rights.

It's a brand of socialism actually..

mikeym wrote: »

Zimbabwe is being badly mismanaged.

Mugabee should have retired decades ago.

Badly mismanaged, I suppose yes, though I can imagine what it would be called if white people where doing this.. and it wouldn't be so discreet as 'badly mismanaged'.

bnt

Q: What do we call a Farm without a Farmer?
A: Land.

IamNotNumber

bnt wrote: »

Q: What do we call a Farm without a Farmer?

A: Zimbabwe

Smiles35

They have farmers, they have fertiliser. Rome has no time for fluting around and dosnt want to hear any bollix from the pharaohs about late grain.

Den14

Why isn't Barack Obama rolling in the troops to oust this crazy dictator and promote justice and freedom and the American way?

The_Valeyard

Wha?

This is like adding petrol to a fire. These farmers have cultivated and perfected the land around them, thus greatly contributing to the Zimbabwean economy.

Logic fail! *Captain Picard facepalm*

Menas

Den14 wrote: »

Why isn't Barack Obama rolling in the troops to oust this crazy dictator and promote justice and freedom and the American way?

The only oil in Zimbabwe is in Mugabe's rolls Royce.

The_Valeyard

Trigger Happy wrote: »

The only oil in Zimbabwe is in Mugabe's rolls Royce.

The rest is used on the private jet his wife uses to go shopping in South Africa.

Desolation Of Smug

IamNotNumber wrote: »

So unfair for these farmers who spend a lifetime building up their lands.They need a few bull Mccabe characters over there.Mugabe wouldn't have evicted the Bull!

No, he'd have shot him and burnt his house, then let some useless crony run the farm into the ground within six months. But it's grand, it's whitey suffering here. No one gives two flying farts about them. They had it coming to them, blah, blah.

Sonderkommando

Some great commentary by the late Dr William L Pierce about the once proud nation of Rhodesia, http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tBibWSh8L8Q.

Sociopath2

Desolation Of Smug wrote: »

No, he'd have shot him and burnt his house, then let some useless crony run the farm into the ground within six months. But it's grand, it's whitey suffering here. No one gives two flying farts about them. They had it coming to them, blah, blah.

Those whites are Africans. Just rephrase it as

"African minority being murdered, dispossessed and ethnically cleansed by wealthy corrupt government elite"

It's about how you sell it.

foggy_lad

I can't wait for the Indians to take back America and evict all the whites and blacks from their land.

uck51js9zml2yt

Another opportunity for the mozambique govt to give more land to displaced white farmers. They really saw the opportunities to improve their economy last time around

The_Valeyard

foggy_lad wrote: »

I can't wait for the Indians to take back America and evict all the whites and blacks from their land.

What right does India have to any American land :P :P :P

Sociopath2

foggy_lad wrote: »

I can't wait for the Indians to take back America and evict all the whites and blacks from their land.

About the the only time you'll get away with saying you can't wait til blacks are ran out of America.

The Diabolical Monocle

bb1234567 wrote: »

I know what you mean but they also don't deserve to benefit from the sins of their forefathers either

Theres truth in this. Not to support whats happening but such a situation is inherently unstable, theres an obvious injustice and theres no way it would go ignored indefinitely.

Consider an hypothetical situation here where you had an ethnic minority living on productive lands with a similar history.
rightly or wrongly someones going to have an issue when reading that their grandfather worked that land as a slave and now their ethnic minority peer is living in a nice house on it while they have diddly squat (their own fault or not), plus power has now changed hands so why not take it upon yourself to not only right a perceived wrong and be a hero but also get some goodies out of it.

Don't know much of that corner of the world but they must have seen it coming, didn't they try to ease their way out and move their money ?

tl;dr - right or wrong it was always gonna happen. giant flashing take these lands from me sign.

Sociopath2

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Theres truth in this. Not to support whats happening but such a situation is inherently unstable, theres an obvious injustice and theres no way it would go ignored indefinitely.

Consider an hypothetical situation here where you had an ethnic minority living on productive lands with a similar history.
rightly or wrongly someones going to have an issue when reading that their grandfather worked that land as a slave and now their ethnic minority peer is living in a nice house on it while they have diddly squat (their own fault or not), plus power has now changed hands so why not take it upon yourself to not only right a perceived wrong and be a hero but also get some goodies out of it.

Don't know much of that corner of the world but they must have seen it coming, didn't they try to ease their way out and move their money ?

tl;dr - right or wrong it was always gonna happen. giant flashing take these lands from me sign.

Most of those families have been there a long time. They were born Africans and that is home to them. It takes a lot to be willing to give that up.
How far would you go to defend your home? Remember they have already outlasted a lot of conflict in Zimbabwe.

The same could have been said of the Jews in Germany between 1933 and 1939. Big warning signs there too, but a lot of inertia to overcome to leave their homeland and lives behind.

coolemon

Eramen wrote: »

It's a brand of socialism actually.. I kid you not.

Its also a brand of capitalism. I kid you not.