2015 NFL Superbowl XLIX

Son Of A Vidic

* * * * * Super Bowl XLIX, Sunday 1st February 2015 @ 11:30pm * * * * *

Location:University of Phoenix Stadium, Glendale, Arizona.
Home Team: Seattle Seahawks

Patriots @ Seahawks

(Sky Sports from 10:00pm)

j8wk2feszrnpao

Seahawks

I'm picking the Pats, but I expect a close game, and it's going to be a 4th quarter where either team can win it.

BKWDR

Seahawks

Torn now about where to actually watch the game. Do i got to a superbowl party and enjoy the night or just watch at home ....

Pats all the way.

Guffy

Seahawks

BKWDR wrote: »

Torn now about where to actually watch the game. Do i got to a superbowl party and enjoy the night or just watch at home ....

Pats all the way.

I guess it depends if you want to remember the half time show and second half or not

I reckon pats have it. I just don't believe in the seattle offense. Blount had a good game against colts, so if they can establish any sort of a ground game then they are away with it.

Chucky the tree

Two fairly detestable teams so this isn't going to be a pleasant watch. Can I go with an electricity cut that isn't restored? I think the Pats will win.

Magico Gonzalez

Seahawks

Feel dirty saying I want the Pats to win, shame GB didn't hang in there.

obriendj

Can see a repeat of last year.

Old Experienced QB vs young Seattle QB
All the hype before the game saying it will be tight. But then Seattle go and win by a decent margin.

Would like to see Seattle lose and they should have done so yesterday but the Packers threw it away.

TheDoctor

About time this thread got started!

Lirange

Sherman's injury does give me pause but I think Seattle will win. I think Indy was a poor opponent by the standards of a division championship game. There's an absolutely massive difference going from lining up against a poor Colts defence to squaring off against the Seattle defence. Wilson played poorly and was uncharacteristically turnover prone. If he performs like this again they won't win. He won't though which is why I think the Seahawks repeat.

matthew8

Seahawks

Patriots definitely the favourites for me. Last year the Seahawks went in having played very well against a top class team in the championship game and dominating the Saints. This year you can't read anything into how they played against Seattle and they were incredibly fortunate that GB messed it up yesterday. If the Patriots find themselves in the positions GB were in you can rest assured they won't let it slip, their coaches are far too good to let that happen. Still though Pete Carroll is a great coach and you have to imagine he'll give them a very good chance.

Vanolder

Seahawks

Lirange wrote: »

Sherman's injury does give me pause but I think Seattle will win. I think Indy was a poor opponent by the standards of a division championship game. There's an absolutely massive difference going from lining up against a poor Colts defence to squaring off against the Seattle defence. Wilson played poorly and was uncharacteristically turnover prone. If he performs like this again they won't win. He won't though which is why I think the Seahawks repeat.

Did you not see the intensity of the Raven game the week before? NE will not panic, that's a certainty. They will also not play into Seattle's strength's i.e their secondary. They will exploit the Seahawks for short gains all day, an area where they are weak. Brady will grind and grind and at the other end the NE secondary will hold their own against any receiving corp out there. Russel will have to be at his very best to exploit them here... Where they can have a real field day is through Lynch, that's the worry. But NE will be ready, they will have a game plan and they will execute it. Whether it's good enough on the day is another thing but their opposition last night will have no bearing on how they perform. They know exactly what they are facing into.

Putin

Seahawks

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Two fairly detestable teams so this isn't going to be a pleasant watch. Can I go with an electricity cut that isn't restored? I think the Pats will win.

Detestable teams? I can never understand how someone can get so worked up over a simple game of Football.


A very intriguing Superbowl and it should be close, but I think the Patriots will do it.

ScummyMan

I said last week that the winner would come from the NFC, and I'm standing by that. I cant see the Hawks having such a bad game again.

Knex*

Trying to see which is the lesser of the two evils :pac:

Going with Seahawks, but this game should go to the wire.

HigginsJ

Head says Hawks but my begrudging respect for Brady & Darth Vader sort of hopes the Pats have one last hurrah.

Don't think it will be terribly close, Seahawks by 10-15.

glued

I think it'll depend on what pressure The Pats can put on that Hawks offense. I think the Seahawks are the better team but Brady and BB can swing any game in their balance. I hope it's a much better contest than last year. I can't see anyone running away with it and it should prove to be a tight enough affair.

I can see the Hawks winning by 7 in the end.

OU812

I'm backing the Hawks but I think it's going to be the patriots

spiritcrusher

Harsh calling them the two most detestable teams but I don't think it's an exaggeration to call them the two most currently disliked teams in the league (which I'm sure is more a compliment than anything else really). But yeah, probably the Super Bowl I would've least wanted to see from a bitterness point of view! As long as it's a good game with some moments of drama I'll be happy. I'm leaning towards thinking if the Pats get the run game going like last night they should shade it as their offense will be sorted and their defense should be able to make just enough plays to keep Seattle's score down.
That being said, I don't think there's any way Wilson is as bad as he was last night and that could make it interesting, especially if the Seahawk's D somehow is fully fit. So in reality I've no idea who'll win.

Basically I think if the Patriots score more than they concede they'll win. But I also think if Seahawks concede less than they score they'll also win.

Lirange

Vanolder wrote: »

Did you not see the intensity of the Raven game the week before?

I did. I think the Seahawks are a better version of the Ravens. I'm sure the Pats can cope mentally with a competitive game. Just that the game against Indy may serve to deceive and flatter the viewers a bit.

Vanolder wrote: »

NE will not panic, that's a certainty. They will also not play into Seattle's strength's i.e their secondary. They will exploit the Seahawks for short gains all day, an area where they are weak. Brady will grind and grind and at the other end the NE secondary will hold their own against any receiving corp out there.

They will. They will. They will. I'm just making a prediction. What I think is more likely to happen. I certainly don't have your confidence. Many things we think will happen often don't. If Seattle establishes the running game (like the Ravens) then that opens up the passing game and makes the game a bit more complicated for the safeties. Indy, as we know, has no running game whatsoever.

You used the adjective "weak" in describing an aspect of Seattle's defence. One that could be exploited "all day." The Seahawks defence played well against the Packers. Rodgers made a few plays of the variety you speak of, the short passes (though note that Seahawks are less exploitable there in the red zone). But for the game? His stat line was 178 yards, 1 TD, and 2 picks. Would you take that stat line for Brady and expect to win? If you told me those would be Rodgers numbers I would have thought they would have lost handily. Of course, I wouldn't have anticipated Seattle turning the ball over five times giving the Pack prime field position. Most of Green Bay's offensive output was scores off turnovers/long field goals. Seattle lost the turnover ratio by 3. A rarity for Seattle which has typically been on the right side of that stat. If that repeats itself in the Super Bowl then Seattle is in trouble. However, I think that's relatively unlikely.

Vanolder wrote: »

Russel will have to be at his very best to exploit them here... Where they can have a real field day is through Lynch, that's the worry. But NE will be ready, they will have a game plan and they will execute it. Whether it's good enough on the day is another thing but their opposition last night will have no bearing on how they perform. They know exactly what they are facing into.

Of course, knowing what you are facing and successfully facing it are two very different things. I don't think either team will underestimate the other. Belichik is a smart coach but he's not God. He's 3-2 in Super Bowls not 5-0. Russell, his last performance and relative youth notwithstanding, is a very intelligent player. As I stated above the run game really opens up options for Wilson in the passing game and don't forget he likes to complicate things for defences by running the ball himself. He had the 4th most rushing yards by a QB in a season this year (only two seasons by Vick and one by Cunningham ahead of him). One thing that Seattle has shown a penchant for in these last couple years is executing the big play, the back breakers, sometimes in the running game, but often on deep passes as well. Against a team like the Seahawks the outcome may depend more on the play of the NE safeties, Chung and McCourty, than the CBs.

Chucky the tree

Putin wrote: »

Detestable teams? I can never understand how someone can get so worked up over a simple game of Football.

Who's getting worked up?

Areyouwell

Seahawks

Lirange wrote: »

There's an absolutely massive difference going from lining up against a poor Colts defence to squaring off against the Seattle defence.

The Ravens - Pats game was the toughest and the most physical game by far in the playoffs. Brady took some shots in that game and seemed to play better after each one. The Seahawks have a great defense, it will be close, but I think the Pats will get it done.

poldebruin

Seahawks

I have the Patriots winning comfortably. Seattle Offense looked horrible last night, and the New England Defense will give Wilson fits. On the other side of the ball, Green Bay moved the ball at will against Seattle and the only thing that stopped them in the end was themselves. New England's Offense will stay aggressive for the entire game (look at last night leaving Brady in taking shots to the legs and throwing deep) and will not take their foot off the gas. New England are clearly the best team in the league at the moment.

OU812

poldebruin wrote: »

Seattle Offense looked horrible last night

And they know that & will change, I think it's going to be hard fought & it'll sadly go to the patriots, but I want to be pleasantly surprised.

poldebruin

Seahawks

OU812 wrote: »

And they know that & will change, I think it's going to be hard fought & it'll sadly go to the patriots, but I want to be pleasantly surprised.

I don't know.... they didn't look great against Carolina or Arizona before that. The personnel will be the same and with 2 weeks to figure it out, I fancy Belichick to throw a formidable gameplan together.

Seattle beat Green Bay by patching together some very unlikely stuff, fake field goal, botched onside kicks, hail mary 2 point conversions married with some very timid coaching decisions from the opposition. New England are too well coached for any of that to fly.

....all that said, I would obviously like the game to be close. And all this coming from someone who thought last year's game was going to be close and one for the ages.

kryogen

Seahawks

I am perfect in the post season to this point with my picks so will take some time over this, but the heart is obviously shouting Patriots at me.

Knex*

poldebruin wrote: »

I don't know.... they didn't look great against Carolina or Arizona before that. The personnel will be the same and with 2 weeks to figure it out, I fancy Belichick to throw a formidable gameplan together.

Seattle beat Green Bay by patching together some very unlikely stuff, fake field goal, botched onside kicks, hail mary 2 point conversions married with some very timid coaching decisions from the opposition. New England are too well coached for any of that to fly.

....all that said, I would obviously like the game to be close. And all this coming from someone who thought last year's game was going to be close and one for the ages.

Once again I'm struck with the thought, "How the hell did the Packers lose that game?".

Mad, Ted.

Paully D

Quite surprised to see double the amount of people choosing the Patriots over the Seahawks thus far. I thought it'd be closer than that on the poll.

CJC86

Seahawks

Paully D wrote: »

Quite surprised to see double the amount of people choosing the Patriots over the Seahawks thus far. I thought it'd be closer than that on the poll.

I dunno, maybe they watched both games last night... :P

Knex*

Paully D wrote: »

Quite surprised to see double the amount of people choosing the Patriots over the Seahawks thus far. I thought it'd be closer than that on the poll.

Its all that Pats and AFC-ers influence on the forum

Mark me down for the Hawks anyway, I think Avril can get the pressure on Brady and the secondary is water tight unlike the Ravens which was their downfall. Colts defence was very weak. Pats are 0-2 in Glendale also :P

Chucky the tree

Paully D wrote: »

Quite surprised to see double the amount of people choosing the Patriots over the Seahawks thus far. I thought it'd be closer than that on the poll.

I'm waiting until after the game to vote.



Edit: I see that option has been shut off.

Johnny_Fontane

see this as very similar to last year against the broncos only that this year the hawks have a ring to show. Peyton had a better core last year than brady does this year to throw to, but brady is a better game manager than peyton.

I fear that the pats may be rolling out the same excuses as XLVI where they had no major threat downfield.

Think it will be closer than last year, but defence wins out on these occasions for me, so its the hawks again.

TheDoctor

Two Superbowl wins in a row!

Cant wait! :pac:

kryogen

Seahawks

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

see this as very similar to last year against the broncos only that this year the hawks have a ring to show. Peyton had a better core last year than brady does this year to throw to, but brady is a better game manager than peyton.

I fear that the pats may be rolling out the same excuses as XLVI where they had no major threat downfield.

Think it will be closer than last year, but defence wins out on these occasions for me, so its the hawks again.

Pats are a better team, and have a better big game QB and a better secondary then the Broncos had.

Seahawks are not the same team as last year, hard to know what will come from them, they have looked so poor at times this year. Should be a close one but if the Pats can get out to a lead and force them to throw the ball more it should be a huge help, having to play from behind against them is not something you would want to do at all, probably even less so then the Ravens.

MoyVilla9

Where is a decent place to watch this in Dublin?

The Woolshed was packed last year, despite going about 5 hours early, and I expect it to be even worse this year considering that the Pats are in it.

TheDoctor

MoyVilla9 wrote: »

Where is a decent place to watch this in Dublin?

The Woolshed was packed last year, despite going about 5 hours early, and I expect it to be even worse this year considering that the Pats are in it.

Who would be the most followed NFL teams in Ireland?

Realt Dearg Sec

Seahawks

TheDoctor wrote: »

Who would be the most followed NFL teams in Ireland?

Pats, Packers (what with the massive Green Bay-Ireland connection of course, makes total sense ), Giants, Bears, and for some reason when you're in the Woolshed there's often lots of Ravens fans as well.

SantryRed

Seahawks

Expect the Patriots to win 10+.

This is NOTHING like last year whatsoever.

Johnny_Fontane

you mean they havent won in 10+ years? is that what you mean?

BKWDR

Seahawks

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Pats, Packers (what with the massive Green Bay-Ireland connection of course, makes total sense ), Giants, Bears, and for some reason when you're in the Woolshed there's often lots of Ravens fans as well.

Steelers and the Rooney connection too.

kryogen

Seahawks

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

you mean they havent won in 10+ years? is that what you mean?

I think he meant they will have been to their 6th superbowl in under 15 years, which is no mean feat in the free agency era.

Johnny_Fontane

kryogen wrote: »

I think he meant they will have been to their 6th superbowl in under 15 years, which is no mean feat in the free agency era.

agreed, but to be fair, its only winning that counts. And 10 years is a long time (and too long a time) to have a supposed GOAT QB/Coach

JaMarcusHustle

Seahawks

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

agreed, but to be fair, its only winning that counts. And 10 years is a long time (and too long a time) to have a supposed GOAT QB/Coach

Don Shula went 20 years without winning a Super Bowl, 12 of which were with Dan Marino under centre. Their legacy isn't questioned as frequently. Funny that!

Hazys

Seahawks

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

Don Shula went 20 years without winning a Super Bowl, 12 of which were with Dan Marino under centre. Their legacy isn't questioned as frequently. Funny that!

Not to mention it was also the non cap era.

InTheTrees

Poll is closed??

Buford T. Justice XIX

InTheTrees wrote: »

Poll is closed??

Naw, that's the final score:pac:

43-24 to the Patriots

GoldFour4

From Adam Schefter, Marshawn Lynch is costing himself an absolute fortune in fines this season, it'a absolute stupidity from him with this amount of money being thrown away.

NFL fined Seahawks RB Marshawn Lynch $20,000 for an obscene gesture after his TD in Sunday's NFC Championship game, per an NFL official.
But that was just the start of what was a costly Sunday and could be a costly Super Bowl week for Lynch.
The NFL is considering fining Lynch "significantly more" than the $50,000 it has fined him in each of the past two seasons for not speaking to the media, something Lynch declined to do post-game again Sunday, per an NFL official.
Now, this is another issue that threatens to hang over the Super Bowl week with Lynch being required to speak to the media Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
An NFL official said there would be increasing fines for each session Lynch missed, with each fine being more than the two $50,000 fines already imposed and the upcoming one that soon is expected to be handed down.
As of now, the NFL and Seahawks are in discussions about the best way to handle Lynch.

taidghbaby

For anyone interested in actual illegal activity that had an actual outcome on the game Scott Kasmar has just put a pic up on Twitter of the onside kick the Seahwaks recovered on Sunday - 6 players on one side which is an illegal formation!

Pretty massive miss by the officials by the looks of things!

taidghbaby

taidghbaby wrote: »

For anyone interested in actual illegal activity that had an actual outcome on the game Scott Kasmar has just put a pic up on Twitter of the onside kick the Seahwaks recovered on Sunday - 6 players on one side which is an illegal formation!

Pretty massive miss by the officials by the looks of things!

And it looks like he was wrong!! Nothing illegal here!

matthew8

Seahawks

taidghbaby wrote: »

And it looks like he was wrong!! Nothing illegal here!

I was thinking 6 on one side was normal. One big thing though was the penalty after the Wilson sack for the hit on Matthews. It was ruled to have happened during the play so if accepted it would have been a replay of down. The play was clearly over though so it should have been second and 45 instead of 30.

adrian522

Seahawks

I think it's obvious that God just wanted the Seahawks to win, which is why all of this happened.