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Leo Varadkar comes out as gay

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    #302
    SpaceTime
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    stanley1980 wrote: »
    Why's that? You prefer the teachers and accountants ? What profession would you prefer to see ?

    We could do with a better diversity in politics. The Dail is still full of teachers, farmers, publicans, accountants and the odd lawyer.

    At least medical doctors have a slightly different experience of life. We could do with some engineers, scientists, IT people etc etc too!
    Very very poor number of science and tech people in Irish politics.


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    #303
    JillyQ
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    conditioned games wrote: »
    Hope he goes back to medicine, they dont belong in poltics.

    Who's they? & why don't they belong in politics?


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    #304
    Jawgap
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    SpaceTime wrote: »
    We could do with a better diversity in politics. The Dail is still full of teachers, farmers, publicans, accountants and the odd lawyer.

    At least medical doctors have a slightly different experience of life. We could do with some engineers, scientists, IT people etc etc too!
    Very very poor number of science and tech people in Irish politics.

    .....and far too many who inherited their seats.


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    #305
    mad muffin
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    efb wrote: »
    And how much would it cost to do that?

    10 shekels?
    DeanAustin wrote: »
    Haha nope afraid it isn't. Just exposing you as a spoofer.

    Oh you.


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    #306
    JillyQ
    Registered Users Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭JillyQ


    conditioned games wrote: »
    Hope he goes back to medicine, they dont belong in poltics.

    Who's they? & why don't they belong in politics?


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    #307
    dickwod1
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    kyub wrote: »
    Ah right ok... my nose is runny. Sort it out Leo!

    All joking aside though, I don't understand why there is he feels this need to come out as gay.

    He said: "There are decisions coming up that are not entirely my own but I will be involved in them.

    "I just want people to know that whatever decisions are made on any issue, I'll make them according to what I believe is in the public interest and my own conscience.

    "I won't be allowing my own background or my own sexual orientation to dictate the decisions that I make.

    "I just kind of want to be honest with people. I don't want anyone to think that I have a hidden agenda."

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0118/673524-leo-varadkar/


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    #308
    Annasopra
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    conditioned games wrote: »
    Hope he goes back to medicine, they dont belong in poltics.

    Apart from the fact we do. Get used to it.

    We have 4 openly gay TDs, 2 openly gay senators and 8 openly Councillors.

    That number is always increasing.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #309
    SpaceTime
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    Jawgap wrote: »
    .....and far too many who inherited their seats.

    Well, oddly enough that's down to the locals voting for them and having the infrastructure and experience in place.

    You can't "inherit' a seat, you can however be totally prepared for political life by having grown up with a TD.


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    #310
    _Kaiser_
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    Jawgap wrote: »
    .....and far too many who inherited their seats.

    That's also to do with the sheep-like electorate though.

    We need term limits...

    - No Party can serve in Government any longer than 2 consecutive terms (4 years each)
    - No TD can serve any longer than a maximum of 3 terms

    That would get rid of the "jobs for life and all my family" shyte IMO


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    #311
    Micky Dolenz
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    Fair play to him. I've met him a few times over the years, a very likable chap once the work stuff is over. The gay thing I have no issue with, what bothers me is that he is so young and has done so much. That's not fair :p


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    #312
    mikom
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    conditioned games wrote: »
    Hope he goes back to medicine, they dont belong in poltics.
    JillyQ wrote: »
    Who's they? & why don't they belong in politics?

    Honest folk?


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    conorh91
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    I'm surprised at all the people saying they knew. I would never have guessed. He looks just like one of us

    / sarcasm


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    #314
    Dyr
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    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Fair play to him. I've met him a few times over the years, a very likable chap once the work stuff is over. The gay thing I have no issue with, what bothers me is that he is so young and has done so much. That's not fair :p

    He did sweet FA in transport and he's doing sweet FA in health. If Leo was taoiseach he'd spend all his time pontificating about what was happening in america or anywhere other than the country he's running


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    Micky Dolenz
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    Bambi wrote: »
    He did sweet FA in transport and he's doing sweet FA in health. If Leo was taoiseach he'd spend all his time pontificating about what was happening in america or anywhere other than the country he's running

    What have you done/or hope to do by the time you are 36?


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    #316
    efb
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    I bought my own house that's it


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    #317
    Daith
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    conorh91 wrote: »
    I'm surprised at all the people saying they knew. I would never have guessed. He looks just like one of us

    / sarcasm

    You don't get straight guys looking that good and young at 36!


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    efb
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    Daith wrote: »
    You don't get straight guys looking that good and young at 36!

    q10


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    #319
    Cienciano
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    I didn't like him before and I don't like him now.


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    #320
    _Kaiser_
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    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    What have you done/or hope to do by the time you are 36?

    To be fair, I can see his point as Leo IS in those positions and should be delivering - regardless of his age, sexuality or anything else.


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    Jawgap
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    SpaceTime wrote: »
    Well, oddly enough that's down to the locals voting for them and having the infrastructure and experience in place.

    You can't "inherit' a seat, you can however be totally prepared for political life by having grown up with a TD.
    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    That's also to do with the sheep-like electorate though.

    We need term limits...

    - No Party can serve in Government any longer than 2 consecutive terms (4 years each)
    - No TD can serve a maximum of 3 terms

    That would get rid of the "jobs for life and all my family" shyte IMO

    No, we need to embrace the Athenian democratic process of ostracism!!

    In ancient Athens the people were asked if they wanted to hold an ostracism every year - if the majority agreed, candidates were nominated. The 'winners' were then banished for 10 years after which they could return to their property and lives in the city.

    In the real world, though, a term limit for TDs (Any number of Dails up to a max of 12 years) would be a good idea (and no drawing the pension until your 65, no parachute payments and trim back the expenses) - not sure about a term limit on parties. If they can garner the support they should be in government.


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    #322
    jca
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    Jeez. Must be a slow news day.... Who gives a ***k. Match him better to do his job.


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    #323
    mad muffin
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    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    What have you done/or hope to do by the time you are 36?

    Let me answer that!

    I have given life! Life!!!! LIIIIIIIIFE!!!!


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    #324
    Jawgap
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    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    What have you done/or hope to do by the time you are 36?

    What has age got to do with anything?

    Renzi became prime minister of Italy in 2014 at 39 and Rajiv Ghandi was 40 when he took over in India- can we regard Leo as a failure if he's not Taoiseach after the next election?

    Alexander the Great was 33 when he died.


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    #325
    _Kaiser_
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    Jawgap wrote: »
    not sure about a term limit on parties. If they can garner the support they should be in government.

    The idea there would to be try and prevent one party from dominating (as FF have done since pretty much the foundation of the State).

    There's nothing wrong with fresh ideas every few years.. unfortunately this time round we got FF-lite rather than the real reform and change we were promised. Probably also explains why FG never get 2 consecutive terms in government as all they seem to do in Irish politics is screw things up so badly that they make FF viable again! :rolleyes:

    I do think the PR electoral system needs to go though too.


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    #326
    Micky Dolenz
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    Being successful at a young age shows ambition, hard work and luck.


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    #327
    Wang King
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    mad muffin wrote: »
    Let me answer that!

    I have given life! Life!!!! LIIIIIIIIFE!!!!

    Nothing useful then?


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    #328
    Jawgap
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    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Being successful at a young age shows ambition, hard work and luck.

    Mostly luck - as Gladwell showed in Outliers.


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    Richard Hillman
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    Bambi wrote: »
    He did sweet FA in transport and he's doing sweet FA in health. If Leo was taoiseach he'd spend all his time pontificating about what was happening in america or anywhere other than the country he's running

    Sweet FA? He was probably the first transport minister to finally stand up to the transport unions.


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    #330
    _Kaiser_
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    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Being successful at a young age shows ambition, hard work and luck.

    What is being "successful" though .. just getting there, or what you do when you ARE there?

    I think the point is that the emphasis should be on the latter - especially in a country like this where TD's can effectively pass their seats on to their offspring


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    #331
    evolving_doors
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    Wonder how Coveny can top that...

    I suppose being from Cork is enough of an affliction


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