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Having a girl over for first time need advice.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    macyard wrote: »
    If she thought it was fraud I guess, but telling a person you are well off use a fancy car good clothes but really you are poor it is fraud and if you use that to have sex it's rape

    Good god!! I pulled a girl a few months back while wearing a Tommy Hilfiger shirt i borrowed from a friend and im on minimum wage!!

    Ill turn myself in in the morning.

    I cant believe the shame ive brought on my family :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭evo2000


    macyard wrote: »
    Yes legally it's rape by deception.

    HAHAHAHAHAAH i can just imagine it in court "he told me he had millions so we had sex but it turns out his poor and ive changed my mind and its rape!"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 380 ✭✭macyard


    evo2000 wrote: »
    HAHAHAHAHAAH i can just imagine it in court "he told me he had millions so we had sex but it turns out his poor and ive changed my mind and its rape!"

    He would go to jail, it's happened before.


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    macyard wrote: »
    He would go to jail, it's happened before.

    I honestly thought you were joking originally.Once both parties are consensual adults its a fair ball game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭the nikkei is rising


    Zaph wrote: »
    Really? Under one of your previous accounts you stated that you were a third year law student.

    My brother is mayhaps you are confusing I and he.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭evo2000


    macyard wrote: »
    He would go to jail, it's happened before.

    In the words of victor meldrew...I DONT BELIVE IT!!

    id say judge judy would run yeah out of the court with a case like that!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 380 ✭✭macyard


    I honestly thought you were joking originally.Once both parties are consensual adults its a fair ball game.

    Consent can be removed retroactively like if fraud or intoxication is involved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    macyard wrote: »
    Consent can be removed retroactively like if fraud or intoxication is involved.

    If that was the case, any girl could "remove" her consent at any stage and accuse anyone of rape at any time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    If that was the case, any girl could "remove" her consent at any stage and accuse anyone of rape at any time.
    I have a feeling macyard is trying to out-troll the OP. At least the OP is amusing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    And if telling a girl a few fibs to get her in bed is rape than at least 75% of all sexual activity that ever happened in the world was rape.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,093 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    So is this the type of girl you have to sign out of somewhere OP, or is she a hooker or imaginary by any chance???


  • Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,282 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    My brother is mayhaps you are confusing I and he.

    There is no confusion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    conorh91 wrote: »
    I have a feeling macyard is trying to out-troll the OP. At least the OP is amusing.

    Thats what i thought at first, im not so sure now though :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 380 ✭✭macyard


    If that was the case, any girl could "remove" her consent at any stage and accuse anyone of rape at any time.

    Only if she had drink or was lied too, and it's only right we should not be lied too or being taken advantage of if we went out to enjoy ourselves.

    These laws make men think about treating women right or they might go to jail


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭the nikkei is rising


    conorh91 wrote: »
    I have a feeling macyard is trying to out-troll the OP. At least the OP is amusing.

    I can't decide whether your accusation or his grasp of the law is more offensive to me, I'll sleep on it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    I would sooner be found guilty of impropriety than feel the depth of loss that one may only discover through separation beyond one's control.

    What are you taking about!?

    You are trying impress a women with fictional wealth and a non-existent maid with poor toilet habits. There is no depth here and any relationship founded on such a bedrock of lies is doomed to fail anyway.

    ....either that or you are trolling. The situation is so nonsensical, I can't tell.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 380 ✭✭macyard


    I can't decide whether your accusation or his grasp of the law is more offensive to me, I'll sleep on it.

    *her*

    How do people get that wrong macy is in my user name


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    macyard wrote: »
    Only if she had drink or was lied too, and it's only right we should not be lied too or being taken advantage of if we went out to enjoy ourselves.

    These laws make men think about treating women right or they might go to jail

    If she had a drink?If a girl is drunk and starts throwing herself all over someone, she can stop half way through and say its rape?

    What if a girl tells me shes single and i have sex with her, only too find out after she has a boyfriend? Should i report her for raping me?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭evo2000


    macyard wrote: »
    Only if she had drink or was lied too, and it's only right we should not be lied too or being taken advantage of if we went out to enjoy ourselves.

    These laws make men think about treating women right or they might go to jail

    Does it work both ways? if i bang a chick an wake up the next morning and shes pucked can i say i was raped because she looked grand the night before with all the make up and that! ive been deceptioned! lol


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 380 ✭✭macyard


    If she had a drink?If a girl is drunk and starts throwing herself all over someone, she can stop half way through and say its rape?

    What if a girl tells me shes single and i have sex with her, only too find out after she has a boyfriend? Should i report her for raping me?
    evo2000 wrote: »
    Does it work both ways? if i bang a chick an wake up the next morning and shes pucked can i say i was raped because she looked grand the night before with all the make up and that! ive been deceptioned! lol



    Legally a woman cannot rape a man, not sure if there is a sexual asualt by deception law


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭evo2000


    macyard wrote: »
    Legally a woman cannot rape a man, not sure if there is a sexual asualt by deception law

    If she drugged me, handcuffed me to the bed, then gave me a heap of Viagra, sur that must be rape!


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    macyard wrote: »
    Legally a woman cannot rape a man, not sure if there is a sexual asualt by deception law

    What if she forcefully removed my clothes and sodomised me? Thats apparently fine, but if i tell her i have a wide screen tv that i dont actually have im going down for rape??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭evo2000


    What if she forcefully removed my clothes and sodomised me? Thats apparently fine, but if i tell her i have a wide screen tv that i dont actually have im going down for rape??

    Lmfao! and an xbox one make it more believable !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 380 ✭✭macyard


    What if she forcefully removed my clothes and sodomised me? Thats apparently fine, but if i tell her i have a wide screen tv that i dont actually have im going down for rape??

    Look I didn't make the laws, only laws that deal with the woman side come up on sites I visit, I don't read much about the male aspect as it has no real interest to me.

    That fact we have one section of law that favours women doesn't make up for the huge amount of others that favour men


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭evo2000


    macyard wrote: »
    Look I didn't make the laws, only laws that deal with the woman side come up on sites I visit, I don't read much about the male aspect as it has no real interest to me.

    That fact we have one section of law that favours women doesn't make up for the huge amount of others that favour men

    Thats more of it now!


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    macyard wrote: »
    Look I didn't make the laws, only laws that deal with the woman side come up on sites I visit, I don't read much about the male aspect as it has no real interest to me.

    That fact we have one section of law that favours women doesn't make up for the huge amount of others that favour men

    Are you sure these are irish laws?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,148 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    macyard wrote: »
    *her*

    How do people get that wrong macy is in my user name

    So you don't have a yard, Mac?

    I'm out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭The other fella


    So you don't have a yard, Mac?

    I'm out.

    I also read her name as Mac Yard :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,148 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    I also read her name as Mac Yard :)

    Makes more sense than Macy Ard


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭AndonHandon


    macyard wrote: »
    If she thought it was fraud I guess, but telling a person you are well off use a fancy car good clothes but really you are poor it is fraud and if you use that to have sex it's rape

    No.

    This is complete horse manure, please nobody believe it.

    Case law has definitively set out that there is a difference between consenting to the act of sex and consenting on foot of a promise; the girl is consenting to having sex and if the guy is lying then that is irrelevant as she has consented to having sex.


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