'Convicted serial rapist to be voluntarily euthanised in Belgium'

PhilBill

Is this a joke? I say let him see what it's like to be anally annihilated in prison!


http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0103/670154-belgium-euthanasia/

osarusan

There was a thread about this a few months ago - so many posters who would usually want him murdered painfully suddenly wanted him to have to rot in prison.

EDIT: Here it is.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057291198

h2005

Seems fair enough to me. Never have to worry about repeat offending and saves the tax payer the cost of housing him.

Dj Stiggie

I was initially against this when I saw the headline. But he has served 30 years already. Let the scumbag die.

Cee-Jay-Cee

I wish we could volunteer all our Rapists and sex offenders for euthanasia also.

bear1

Dj Stiggie wrote: »

I was initially against this when I saw the headline. But he has served 30 years already. Let the scumbag die.

He has been given a sentence and should be told to serve it.
Can't stand being behind bars? I wonder how his victims feel knowing he took something from them that they will never get back.
Stay in your cell until your sentence is over..

PLUG71

His victims dont a get a choice and have to suffer for life!

He should be left to suffer!!

blatantrereg

The people who just want him to suffer might notice that he refused to be considered for early parole.

I think he should be allowed end his life. I think that his decision to do so deserves some sort of respect.

I greatly dislike the lust for suffering of those who have done wrong which is displayed by many people, and evident in some of the posts here. Usually I refer to it as bloodthirstiness, but in this case it is not fitting.

BeerWolf

Do what the Americans love doing, let them rot in prison for many years while the anxiety kills them as their coming execution day arrives.

PLUG71

blatantrereg wrote: »

The people who just want him to suffer might notice that he refused to be considered for early parole.

I think he should be allowed end his life. I think that his decision to do so deserves some sort of respect.

I greatly dislike the lust for suffering of those who have done wrong which is displayed by many people, and evident in some of the posts here. Usually I refer to it as bloodthirstiness, but in this case it is not fitting.

Would you still see it in the same light if somebody close to you was raped or killed?

I think not somehow.

blatantrereg

PLUG71 wrote: »

Would you still see it in the same light if somebody close to you was raped or killed?

I think not somehow.

Yes I would. I would prefer their death to their imprisonment, and would be pleased if they volunteered to die.

wp_rathead

PhilBill wrote: »

Is this a joke? I say let him see what it's like to be anally annihilated in prison!


http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0103/670154-belgium-euthanasia/

I personally don't agree that he should be euthanasied while serving time but joking about prison rape is abhorrent..

Noobascious

Fookin Stockholm syndromed left wing coksukin whorin pusy!

floggg

PLUG71 wrote: »

Would you still see it in the same light if somebody close to you was raped or killed?

I think not somehow.

Yes, but what matter?

Sentencing laws shouldn't be made through the subjective eyes of the victim. They should be set objectively and dispassionately in order to achieve justice, rather than vengeance.

IsMiseMyself

It's a tough because he's a murdering rapist so it's very easy to think 'f-ck it, let him rot.' But I also think there's no real need to prolong unnecessary anguish. He wants to die. Let him die. Probably the best way to deal with criminals who have no chance of rehabilitation.

PLUG71

Yeah screw the victims and their families.

Lets put this monster out of his misery to save money and put HIM out of his tortured existance!

Meanwhile other people have to just live with it?

FFS.

Grayson

PLUG71 wrote: »

Yeah screw the victims and their families.

Lets put this monster out of his misery to save money and put HIM out of his tortured existance!

Meanwhile other people have to just live with it?

FFS.

You in favour of the death penalty?

Billy86

PLUG71 wrote: »

Yeah screw the victims and their families.

Lets put this monster out of his misery to save money and put HIM out of his tortured existance!

Meanwhile other people have to just live with it?

FFS.

Surely I'm not the only one reading this and picturing someone foaming rabidly at the mouth...

floggg

PLUG71 wrote: »

Yeah screw the victims and their families.

Lets put this monster out of his misery to save money and put HIM out of his tortured existance!

Meanwhile other people have to just live with it?

FFS.

What good does keeping him alive do for anybody exactly?

I don't know how I feel about this personally, as state sanctioned euthanasia of physically healthy people feels a little unsettling in principle, but I can't see that keeping him alive will do anything to actually help his victims or their family.

The only thing it can achieve is to satisfy the pettier sides of those people, and give them pleasure at seeing another suffer.

While it's perfectly understandable why they would want that, I don't think any State should accede to those desires or make decisions based on a desire for vengeance or just to see a person suffer.

The criminal justice system should be dispassionate, objective and impartial. It's not there to make victims feel better about themselves but to achieve justice and ensure safety and order for all.

Don't for one second think that means I don't think he deserves to be punished. Life without parole seems a just and fitting sentence for a person who has done what he has done.

Also, I don't think death is an easy way out for him, or that he's getting away light this way. Whether he lives or dies, he will never have freedom or any real life of his own. That is his rightful punishment for what he did.

I don't think it really matters whether he lives or dies - either way, any meaningful life he could he had is forfeit.

PLUG71

Billy86 wrote: »

Surely I'm not the only one reading this and picturing someone foaming rabidly at the mouth...

Hardly foaming at the mouth.

IMO opinion he would be getting off lightly!

Billy86

PLUG71 wrote: »

Hardly foaming at the mouth.

IMO opinion he would be getting off lightly!

And what if the victims families want him dead?

PLUG71

Billy86 wrote: »

And what if the victims families want him dead?

Then obviously that is another story!

suicide_circus

If it tje convict is eligible for porole or it has been determined that they cannot be rehabilitated AND it is established that they are suffering extremely due to a mental condition...I'll allow it.

Billy86

PLUG71 wrote: »

Then obviously that is another story!

So victims (and/or their relatives) should be allowed to sentence the perpetrator of the crime?

Gbear

If he's volunteering to put an end to it I think it's a practical and humane solution.

Vengeance is a petty and ignorant reason for having a justice system. It's understandable for victims of serious crime to want it but expecting them to be unbiased and rational about it is silly.
The purpose is to protect others from those who are dangerous.

Voluntary euthanasia is a sensible solution to this problem.
If the guilty party is also suffering because of being subjected to their warped mind or the guilt of what they've done then nobody loses anything by him dying but the perpetrator's suffering is ended and everyone becomes more safe.

Opposing it because of some animalistic urge for him to suffer isn't just wrong, it's shameful.

NotASheeple

PhilBill wrote: »

'Convicted serial rapist to be voluntarily euthanised in Belgium'

Be nice if they made it mandatory for serial Paedophiles.

PLUG71

I must be missing the point here!

Do people really think that this serial rapist should be releaved of suffering?

Billy86

PLUG71 wrote: »

I must be missing the point here!

Do people really think that this serial rapist should be releaved of suffering?

Do you think the victims and/or their families should be the ones to sentence the perpetrators of the crime?

floggg

PLUG71 wrote: »

I must be missing the point here!

Do people really think that this serial rapist should be releaved of suffering?

Well why don't you tell us how making him suffer as much as possible will make the world a better place?

PLUG71

Billy86 wrote: »

Do you think the victims and/or their families should be the ones to sentence the perpetrators of the crime?

No!

Billy86

PLUG71 wrote: »

No!

But then why are you using emotive arguments like "what if it happened to someone close to you?" and why did you say it would be "a completely different story" about euthanising him if the victims families want him dead?

end of the road

PLUG71 wrote: »

Would you still see it in the same light if somebody close to you was raped or killed?

I think not somehow.

you don't know what he thinks or will think

end of the road

PLUG71 wrote: »

Yeah screw the victims and their families.

Lets put this monster out of his misery to save money and put HIM out of his tortured existance!

Meanwhile other people have to just live with it?

FFS.

sensationalist rabel rabel nonsense. you should work for the indo or the vermin daily fail

PLUG71

https://www.facebook.com/skynews/posts/1005475066133757

I guess im not alone thinking this is wrong!

osarusan

PLUG71 wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/skynews/posts/1005475066133757

I guess im not alone thinking this is wrong!

Post from that page:

For him to die that's the easy way out.
He needs to be castrated without anaesthetic and left to bleed out while each limb is removed one by one.

What the hell is wrong with society!?

PLUG71

You quote one stupid post!

floggg

PLUG71 wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/skynews/posts/1005475066133757

I guess im not alone thinking this is wrong!

Good for you. Feel better now?

chupacabra

wprathead wrote: »

I personally don't agree that he should be euthanasied while serving time but joking about prison rape is abhorrent..

Not even a joke tbh. Serial rapists deserve nothing less than the disgusting crimes they themselves have committed. Death is far too lenient an ending for some.

Billy86

And I thought reading two lads argue if half a week is 3.5 days or 4 was the stupidest thing I would read today...

PLUG71

Too many soft approaches to people like this rapist..

Why should anyone give a stuff to how this guy is suffering in jail?

Is it of some peoples opinion that to keep him alive to to mistreat him?

PLUG71

floggg wrote: »

Good for you. Feel better now?

Yes actually!!

osarusan

PLUG71 wrote: »

Why should anyone give a stuff to how this guy is suffering in jail?

That's all you seem to give a stuff about anyway.

osarusan

PLUG71 wrote: »

You quote one stupid post!

There were many many more.

PLUG71

osarusan wrote: »

That's all you seem to give a stuff about anyway.

Fantastic retort!

Egginacup

wprathead wrote: »

I personally don't agree that he should be euthanasied while serving time but joking about prison rape is abhorrent..

Some people have an unhealthy fixation with sodomy and anal rape.

manonboard

blatantrereg wrote: »

The people who just want him to suffer might notice that he refused to be considered for early parole.

I think he should be allowed end his life. I think that his decision to do so deserves some sort of respect.

I greatly dislike the lust for suffering of those who have done wrong which is displayed by many people, and evident in some of the posts here. Usually I refer to it as bloodthirstiness, but in this case it is not fitting.

I completely agree with this post. The bloodlust and suffering is such a short sighted and childish view of things. One person hurts another, so as 'justice' there are cries to hurt him back?
Justice exists to maintain a society, not appease its animal aggression. It provides a deterrent to further crime, and removal of the threat from society.

If society operates on the principle of revenge, then some nutter who cares for the offender will often consider the punishment too hard, and want retribution on his case. Its an infinite progression of violence.

creating further suffering to a human being only makes sense if you acknowledge the reasons you really want it..
ie: Serial rapist rapes victims.. Lets make him suffer so I feel better, I'm angry.. who can i hurt to make myself feel better.
Instead it makes more sense to remove the threat from society, and to treat the cause of this behaviour in future so more pain is not affected on to future victims.

If the rapist chooses to end his life instead of continuing, I think he should be granted his exist with respect and mercy. It does each of us no good to create a society which is appeased by violence. Our children will simply adapt the same attitude and then we'll be the first to question why the world is so violent.

To note: If I had been asked this 5 years ago, I would of wanted him tortured as scum.. an immaturity in my understanding of the world and consequences.

Billy86

PLUG71 wrote: »

Too many soft approaches to people like this rapist..

Why should anyone give a stuff to how this guy is suffering in jail?

Is it of some peoples opinion that to keep him alive to to mistreat him?

Explain how this benefits society.

Davei141

Billy86 wrote: »

Explain how this benefits society.

It doesn't, it just gives PLUG71 a hard on.

manonboard

PLUG71 wrote: »

Too many soft approaches to people like this rapist..

Why should anyone give a stuff to how this guy is suffering in jail?

Is it of some peoples opinion that to keep him alive to to mistreat him?

I think what people supporting 'more suffering is bad' side of the discussion is that allowing prison inmates to suffer for peoples pleasure is an assault on the progress of our society. As in it would hurt us all as a whole to inflict pain upon another person for our appeasement.
I suspect most would support it if it helped future society by rehabilitating him.. but that doesn't really happen with torture.. and his choice to kill himself remove the threat from our world..

I certainly dont benefit from a person suffering.. I do benefit from a threat vanishing from our streets.

Egginacup

PLUG71 wrote: »

Yeah screw the victims and their families.

Lets put this monster out of his misery to save money and put HIM out of his tortured existance!

Meanwhile other people have to just live with it?

FFS.

What exactly do you mean by "screw the victims and their families"? Wat the fcuk are you on about?
How are they getting "screwed"? People like you always throw out that cliche as if you give a sh1t about them purely to give some cloak of caring to your otherwise rabid and sadistic lust for suffering.

It's an insult to the victims that someone like you would mention them as if you have the slightest regard for them. Or do you think that the victims should be called up everyday and asked what this guy should or shouldn't be allowed to do/eat/read and if there's any deviation from that then you're going to scream "yeah, sure, screw the victims but let this guy read any book he wants?"

The guy was eligible under the law for parole and turned it down. It wouldn't surprise me if you started screaming "How dare he refuse parole! Release him so he can be set upon by a mob and torn limb from limb!"

PLUG71

So then its ok to put this guy down.

Our so called progressive society let terminal sick people suffer but a serial rapist has choices?