Nissan €4,000 Scrappage Deal and the Nissan Note

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Hi Motoring Folks,

TLDR:
I am looking into buying a new Nissan Note under the Swappage deal. It would cost me 12,195 after trade in. I am wondering if you guys can recommend any small but spacious alternatives in the €10-14,000 range.

http://www.whatcar.com/car-reviews/nissan/note-hatchback/summary/26191-5

Long Version:
So I've been eyeing up new cars for a little bit. I'm looking for something small, but not tiny, practical and spacious. Whatever I get will be transporting bikes / come with roof racks.

I have previously only considered buying pre-owned but the 4000 euro scrappage deal has piqued my interest, as my current car would get me 1000 euro max on a regular trade in or private sale.

I've read reviews, and looked at the car and it looks good to me. I have yet to give it a test drive.

The model I am looking at, the base model, retails at €16,195, so including trade in I'd be paying 12,195

If I were to sell my current car privately, that would leave 13,195 for a non-Nissan alternative. There might be wiggle room on a cash sale for a new car which could conceivably bring my budget to 14,000.

I am not Knowledgeable about cars in the slightest, I'd be really appreciative for any advice!

colm_mcm

In case anyone's wondering

http://www.nissan.ie/offers/new-vehicles/nissan-scrappage-€4000?gclid=CJz7ovPG-MICFclt2wodJi4AIw


That's quite a good deal. Resale value won't be great but what harm.
There's really nothing new out there that size for €12k straight.

Gael23

I would go with the note if it was me. It would be well worth getting the SV if possible.

driver02

It's a matter of choice really €14,000 would get you a new Toyota Yaris which would prob hold its value better

ozt9vdujny3srf

colm_mcm wrote: »

In case anyone's wondering

http://www.nissan.ie/offers/new-vehicles/nissan-scrappage-€4000?gclid=CJz7ovPG-MICFclt2wodJi4AIw


That's quite a good deal. Resale value won't be great but what harm.
There's really nothing new out there that size for €12k straight.

Hi Colm,

Thanks for the response. When you mention resale not being great - is this a Nissan thing, or will this deal cause a substantial markdown to exist in the resale market in a few years time?

colm_mcm

Both of the above.

AMKC

You could try the Toyota Verso or a Ford B-Max. Citroen C3 Piccaso and Honda Jazz are to more. Not sure what the prices for any of them is do. Just some options if you want to look around a bit before buying the Note. Seems a very good deal for the Note do. Not all Nissans have bad resale value the Qushqai,s is very good thats because there is a big demand for them 2nd hand.

colm_mcm

They're all way more expensive to be fair.

AMKC

Ah ok. Still no harm having a look do.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

http://www.nissan.ie/experience-nissan/juke-nismo

rosenallis

We are looking at the same deal. We had a budget of 10 for a second hand car but saw this new one as a good option and help keep away the headaches.

They havent been too generous with negotiations though.

colm_mcm

rosenallis wrote: »

They havent been too generous with negotiations though.

4 grand off is generous though. Are you upset they won't give you a bit more? Maybe they don't have it to give.
I wouldn't rate the new pulsar, but at €15-€16 grand who cares if its not as good as a €23k Golf.

rosenallis

Sorry, that came across worse than I meant it too...

First time show room buyer so had expected a harder sell but it was pretty much take it or leave it offer.

colm_mcm

You wouldn't blame them tbh, they're probably making nothing out of those deals and just buying market share.

Gael23

rosenallis wrote: »

Sorry, that came across worse than I meant it too...

First time show room buyer so had expected a harder sell but it was pretty much take it or leave it offer.

With a deal like that it will usually be take it or leave it. You might get a free service or a few little accessories but they won't budge on the purchase price

rosenallis

colm_mcm wrote: »

You wouldn't blame them tbh, they're probably making nothing out of those deals and just buying market share.

Lack of experience here, apologies.

Do you thinks its a good car for the price?

Gael23

rosenallis wrote: »

Lack of experience here, apologies.

Do you thinks its a good car for the price?

Are you looking at the Note 1.2 Xe for €12,195? If so yes absolutely.

rosenallis

ryanf1 wrote: »

Are you looking at the Note 1.2 Xe for €12,195? If so yes absolutely.

Yes, was looking at the XE. We've been quoted 13, 195 with delivery. Metallic is an extra 500.

Can't really justify the SV

Grab All Association

rosenallis wrote: »

Lack of experience here, apologies.

Do you thinks its a good car for the price?

What car do you have at the moment?

rosenallis

Chris___ wrote: »

What car do you have at the moment?

2002 Seat Cordoba so to be honest anything is an upgrade!

colm_mcm

rosenallis wrote: »

Lack of experience here, apologies.

Do you thinks its a good car for the price?

Yeah, to be fair its a lot of car for the money. You get Bluetooth and cruise control and stuff thst you wouldn't usually get on a cheap car.

rosenallis

colm_mcm wrote: »

Yeah, to be fair its a lot of car for the money. You get Bluetooth and cruise control and stuff thst you wouldn't usually get on a cheap car.

That's fair, thanks for your replies. Our focus is on just a car which gets from a to b, is reliable and room for family. Not overly concerned with the above to be honest but the car seems to tick our boxes.

We just can't afford the worry of breakdown and expensive repairs and service we may get with second hand

colm_mcm

That makes sense. Then again there are plenty decent cars from good makes available for €6000-7000 but these would be 6-7 years old. You can keep this twice as long and it'll still be newer at the end of the day.
Go for it id say. Just don't scrimp on maintaining it once the warranty runs out. New cars need to be minded too.

Gael23

rosenallis wrote: »

2002 Seat Cordoba so to be honest anything is an upgrade!

Thats very true! I said this to someone else earlier to someone and I know it doesn't really apply to you but I think it really is worth upgrading to the SV.

rosenallis

ryanf1 wrote: »

Thats very true! I said this to someone else earlier to someone and I know it doesn't really apply to you but I think it really is worth upgrading to the SV.

Out of curiosity how come?

Gael23

rosenallis wrote: »

Out of curiosity how come?

It gets you some nice extras like electric windows, a/c, and alloy wheels.
But none of these are things you have on the cordoba so you won't miss them.

colm_mcm

The base model has electric windows.

Gael23

colm_mcm wrote: »

The base model has electric windows.

Only in the front I believe.

TimHorton

Interested in this , Nothing to trade in , Can I buy something and trade that it , If so please point me to the cheapest option

colm_mcm

Worth trying, nissan hardly actually want a load of scrap cars.

Terms and Conditions

Available on Micra, Note Juke and Pulsar Models only
Available at participating dealers only
Qualifying trade-in vehicles must be registered I the Republic of Ireland for at least 6 months previous to date of trade in
Qualifying vehicles must have valid NCT and road tax certificates or certificates that have expire no more than 6months prior to date of trade –in.
Offer only applies to vehicles registered by 31st Jan
This is a mutually exclusive offer and no other offer apply
This is a limited offer – check with your local dealers for details.

Interesting, looks like if the car is out of tax and test less than 6 months, you'd be ok. Also doesn't say you need to be the registered owner any length of time.

Casati

Would make the Juke very cheap too - under 16k. They seem to hold their value quite well dont they? Nissan dealers generally offer 1500 cash discount, so this deal looks good if you have trade in worth less than 1k

Gael23

Casati wrote: »

Would make the Juke very cheap too - under 16k. They seem to hold their value quite well dont they? Nissan dealers generally offer 1500 cash discount, so this deal looks good if you have trade in worth less than 1k

I don't think you will get any further discount than the 4k already offered, cash or not.

TimHorton

Beware

Metallic Paint €500 & Delivery €1,000 adds €1,500 to the bottom line

TimHorton

colm_mcm wrote: »

Worth trying, nissan hardly actually want a load of scrap cars.




Interesting, looks like if the car is out of tax and test less than 6 months, you'd be ok. Also doesn't say you need to be the registered owner any length of time.

According to 1 dealer this condition

"Qualifying trade-in vehicles must be registered in the Republic of Ireland for at least 6 months previous to date of trade in"

means the person trading the car in must be have been the registered ownerfor at least 6 months before the date of the trade in

Bit of Joke really for a large company to leave out such information

daheff

Nissan\Windsor motors did something similar in summertime & I changed a07 note for a 142 sv note. With this deal it was cheaper to buy a new car than a nearly new model


The old car was a 1.4 and new car is 1.2 - dealer told me the newer model had more power than my old car...maybe so, but 1.2 engine is too small for this car. It doesn't have acceleration or power (regardless of what dealer said). I've also had a couple of issues with the electrics in it...nothing major, but just needed a reset.

One feature it has which (IMHO) is useless, is the stop\start engine. Basically the engines supposed to turn off if you are stopped in traffic etc. But it wont if you have ANY electrics running (air con, radio, lights etc)....things you'd normally have on while driving

Also one thing I find really annoying is that when I am turning, I can feel the mechanics turning in the floor!!!(from turning the steering wheel).



Having said that for the money (and remember you are getting 4k off the list price of a new car), the size of the car is huge! Great size for a family car(if that's what you are after). If its power & performance at least get the 1.5 diesel...but not the 1.2


As for resale value....I don't think this deal will damage the resale value. Performance & reliability will have more effect


Also as an aside...I've heard the bigger more exp pulsar has the same issues with engine sizes (1.2 petrol or 1.5 diesel).

RedorDead

TimHorton wrote: »

Beware

Metallic Paint €500 & Delivery €1,000 adds €1,500 to the bottom line

Delivery of €1000 is very high for a Nissan. Even Audis and BMWs delivery charges cost less than that.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

RedorDead wrote: »

Delivery of €1000 is very high for a Nissan. Even Audis and BMWs delivery charges cost less than that.

Feck it sure I'll drive it home meself :cool:

colm_mcm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Worth trying, nissan hardly actually want a load of scrap cars.


Interesting, looks like if the car is out of tax and test less than 6 months, you'd be ok. Also doesn't say you need to be the registered owner any length of time.

Maybe I'm a bit delusional, but would you not be better off just haggling the €4,000 off the price?

Surely you'd be doing them a favour by not giving them an old banger that they'll have to pay someone to scrap?


Or at the least, buying something like this and selling your own car privately?

Soarer

Pity they're not doing it on the Leaf.

I'd take a new one of them @ €17k.

Bellerstring

Is this not a €5000 scrappage rather than €4000?

colm_mcm

Bellerstring wrote: »

Is this not a €5000 scrappage rather than €4000?

How?

Its minimum €4000, if your car is worth more than €0 you may get more

Casati

Its minimum €4000, if your car is worth more than €0 you may get more[/QUOTE]

Its a dealer top up. The dealer usually will offer a 1500 cash discount, as such if you arrive with a car worth 0, he will give you 1500 trade-in for it. With this promotion, he will give you 4000 for it.

If you arrive with no car to trade in, he will generally give you a 1500 cash discount

I arrived with a car the dealer said was worth 2500 trade, but the max he would give was 4000 on a trade in, os it was no benefit to me- i.e. the promotion is only worth your while if the car your trading in is worth less than 2500. For somebody with a car worth scrap, its a good deal

Soarer

Surely to <insert fictitious religious icon here> it'd be worth their while to give a €4k discount to cash buyers and not have to deal with a rubbish trade in?

colm_mcm

Casati wrote: »

Its minimum €4000, if your car is worth more than €0 you may get more

Its a dealer top up. The dealer usually will offer a 1500 cash discount, as such if you arrive with a car worth 0, he will give you 1500 trade-in for it. With this promotion, he will give you 4000 for it.

If you arrive with no car to trade in, he will generally give you a 1500 cash discount

I arrived with a car the dealer said was worth 2500 trade, but the max he would give was 4000 on a trade in, os it was no benefit to me- i.e. the promotion is only worth your while if the car your trading in is worth less than 2500. For somebody with a car worth scrap, its a good deal[/QUOTE]

I'm saying trade value for the trade in.

zagmund

I've a feeling I know the answer to this one, but I'll ask anyway . . . is there no regulation at this stage of "dealer & delivery" charges?

The EU took a while, but it eventually managed to beat Ryanair and others into shape and tell them to include their "Booking on Monday" charge, "You want a toilet on the plane?" charge, "We have to pay our staff too you know" charge, etc . . . into the headline price and not be schneaking them in at the end of the transaction. Have they tried this with the car folks and their "oh, you want it painted and with 4 wheels attached" charges yet?

I don't mind what they call their extra charges as long as it's transparent. If Nissan tell me they will sell me a Note for €16,195, is there not some sort of obligation to be able to come through on the offer without the bit about "Ah, sure it costs us a grand to get the vehicle from the docks to the garage, these things don't drive themselves you know . . ."

Just wondering, like. I am thinking of going for their offer, but I *really* don't want to spend time and effort without knowing what the car will actually cost me at the end of the day.

z

colm_mcm

Wouldn't that be price fixing?

zagmund

Err, not as such. If McDonalds advertise that I can get a burger for €1 that's not price fixing, that's setting a price. Same with cars. If McDonalds and Burger King both happen to independently come to the conclusion that they will only sell burgers for €5 *that's* price fixing.

z

pollocks

Just to say it is worth haggling even with the scrapage deal. I managed to get €5095 off a new Nissan micra for the mother in law, trading in a wreck of a 02 vitara not a straight panel on her

nerobert

What do they do with the traded in cars

kala85

pollocks wrote: »

Just to say it is worth haggling even with the scrapage deal. I managed to get €5095 off a new Nissan micra for the mother in law, trading in a wreck of a 02 vitara not a straight panel on her

What was your cost to change or to buy the micra

pollocks

Got it with metallic for 11600, down from 16695.