RED ROCK [News, Spoilers and Discussion]

jjf1974

cloud493 wrote: »

Is this only on once a week?

its on again tonight (Thursday) @ 8.30 p.m.

cloud493

jjf1974 wrote: »

its on again tonight (Thursday) @ 8.30 p.m.

Didn't see that, cheers.

Strazdas

Just caught up with on the player. Actually pretty decent : it's stylishly filmed (reminds me of the way Casualty is filmed in the UK).

For an opening episode, it wasn't a bad start at all.

desbrook

cloud493 wrote: »

Didn't see that, cheers.

Bad marketing by TV3 - After the title and channel the days the show is on should be the next most important piece of information to drum into our heads.

SweetChaos

jjf1974 wrote: »

its on again tonight (Thursday) @ 8.30 p.m.

A new episode or a repeat?

I have to say I really liked the first episode
I was hoping to see a preview of the next episode they should have let us know when its on again

walshb

I missed little bits of the episode. The copper who was watching CCTV footage saw a schoolgirl in a car kissing an older man? What was this? Was the man a copper, and was the schoolgirl identified? The copper who watched the footage looked very agitated. Was she the man's partner?

kneemos

walshb wrote: »

I missed little bits of the episode. The copper who was watching CCTV footage saw a schoolgirl in a car kissing an older man? What was this? Was the man a copper, and was the schoolgirl identified? The copper who watched the footage looked very agitated. Was she the man's partner?

Partner,sex with schoolgirl.

maximoose

podgeandrodge wrote: »

I don't watch soaps generally but was curious about this one, maybe because I used to watch The Bill. I don't think it is going to be a "the Bill" but I found it better than I expected. I will watch again.

I probably had my expectations too high. I didn't know much about the show going in, had seen the billboards and posters all over Dublin which made it seem like a gritty garda corruption story or something, and read they had spent something like €7m on the show (what did they waste that on?!). Didn't see the TV ad, but was told it was very well made and looked promising. I was kind of expecting a TV3 answer to Love/Hate.

The first I knew it was a soap was when the announcer said it just before the show :pac:

Anyway, not for me.

JohnnyChimpo

maximoose wrote: »

and read they had spent something like €7m on the show (what did they waste that on?!).
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7m is for 80 episodes, and more than 100 employees as far as I know. Since a lot of big shows are multi millions per episode you hardly call it extravagant

Larbre34

JohnnyChimpo wrote: »

7m is for 80 episodes, and more than 100 employees as far as I know. Since a lot of big shows are multi millions per episode you hardly call it extravagant

When you divide that up it actually looks like Prisoner Cell Block H money.


I wonder is it an Irish 'Blue Heelers' that they are aspiring to? Theres a very Aussie feel to the Red Rock set ups. I used to love that show as a Student when it was on in the afternoons!

craoltoir

This programme has received funding of €800,000 from the BAI Sound & Vison fund. Why does part of the licence fee go towards supporting private commercial broadcasters?

TOMs WIFE

walshb wrote: »

I missed little bits of the episode. The copper who was watching CCTV footage saw a schoolgirl in a car kissing an older man? What was this? Was the man a copper, and was the schoolgirl identified? The copper who watched the footage looked very agitated. Was she the man's partner?

Cop in the car with schoolgirl was the cop that works with her and was in an interview scene and another scene with the superintendent. He was the older garda.

cloud493

SweetChaos wrote: »

A new episode or a repeat?

I have to say I really liked the first episode
I was hoping to see a preview of the next episode they should have let us know when its on again

Looks like a new episode to me.

walshb

TOMs WIFE wrote: »

Cop in the car with schoolgirl was the cop that works with her and was in an interview scene and another scene with the superintendent. He was the older garda.

Thanks, and is he supposed to be in a relationship with the copper who was watching the CCTV?

BTW, it was a really silly thing for him to do, and wee bit too far fetched. Broad daylight kissing a girl in her school uniform at a petrol station littered with CCTV.

Kerrydude1981

Will give it a few more episodes,it wasnt too bad

Did Vinny Kiely borrow the denim jacket from Shakin Stevens

TOMs WIFE

walshb wrote: »

Thanks, and is he supposed to be in a relationship with the copper who was watching the CCTV?

BTW, it was a really silly thing for him to do, and wee bit too far fetched. Broad daylight kissing a girl in her school uniform at a petrol station littered with CCTV.

No, just a colleague I think. Presume this will become apparent very shortly.

I did a poll at work, most people that watch soaps thought it was a step up acting wise, non soap people were more mixed, some said they'd continue to watch it, others said once was enough. But they wouldn’t be the target audience in any event I would imagine?

podgeandrodge

cloud493 wrote: »

Looks like a new episode to me.

It's a new episode tonight. I think I'd prefer one 1 hour episode a week than the 2 short ones...

410,800 watched last night

Strazdas

Deleted User wrote: »

410,800 watched last night

TV3 will be absolutely delighted with that : that's higher than some episodes of Fair City have managed in recent weeks.

Strazdas

podgeandrodge wrote: »

It's a new episode tonight. I think I'd prefer one 1 hour episode a week than the 2 short ones...

If the show was a success, I imagine they would switch to three episodes a week.

Elmo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

410,800 watched last night

It peaked at 410,800 averaged 310,000 or so

Strazdas

Elmo wrote: »

It peaked at 410,800 averaged 310,000 or so

Not bad though. Their main aim will be to try and hold onto that number and then start building on it.

AnonoBoy

maximoose wrote: »

I probably had my expectations too high. I didn't know much about the show going in, had seen the billboards and posters all over Dublin which made it seem like a gritty garda corruption story or something, and read they had spent something like €7m on the show (what did they waste that on?!). Didn't see the TV ad, but was told it was very well made and looked promising. I was kind of expecting a TV3 answer to Love/Hate.

The first I knew it was a soap was when the announcer said it just before the show :pac:

Anyway, not for me.

They really mis-sold it in the promos I think.

The 7m wouldn't have been spent on the first episode - that's probably the cost of the entire series (20 episodes or more maybe?)

emanresu esrever

300, 000 average sounds a lot more realistic. always dubious about these figures though and their calculation methods (nielsen calculation etc). For a first episode so highly publicised it wasnt excellent but the EE clash wouldnt have helped. True test will be over next few weeks.

on another note how many minutes was it on for. It started about 8.32 on my watch and finished at 8.55. Then you consider the circa 5 minute ad break and title sequence, it effectively amounted to 17 minutes. and there was a lot of non dialogue location camera work, which while impressively shot took a couple of minutes from show, so we will say 15 minutes of dialogue which is pretty poor. an hour long opening episode would have been a better idea. And thats ignoring the staring into the camera shots!

oh and with multiple mentions of the respective family names, "the hennessys".... "the Kielys"....i imagibe we can take another minute or so off!!

pmasterson95

Tonights figures will be telling. Even reading here. Some looked to see what it was like and wont watch again. Tonight viewership be interesting

I wont be watching I didn't like it at all

The Camera work was really weird The acting was really bad I did like it was out doors a lot yes I watch Fair City its a mediocre soap but the Fair City thread is great for the crack

Strazdas

Deleted User wrote: »

I wont be watching I didn't like it at all

The Camera work was really weird The acting was really bad I did like it was out doors a lot yes I watch Fair City its a mediocre soap but the Fair City thread is great for the crack

Give it a chance though. They were unlikely to come up with a stunning opening episode that was going to hook the whole country in. When Brookside started in the UK in 1982, it had a very different feel to other shows but it was a similarly low key start to Red Rock and they spent the first few weeks and months establishing the characters.

Elmo

I imagine Red Rock will average around 300,000 for the first 5 weeks, then start dipping to about 200,000 and level off, and will then begin to increase. TV3 expect this to happen.

Strazdas wrote: »

Give it a chance though. They were unlikely to come up with a stunning opening episode that was going to hook the whole country in. When Brookside started in the UK in 1982, it had a very different feel to other shows but it was a similarly low key start to Red Rock and they spent the first few weeks and months establishing the characters.

When Brookside started it was on a New government owned TV station and it never reached the kind of audienceof EastEnders or Coronation Street.

cloud493

For my money, its better than fair city, not as good as eastenders or coronation street. Have to imagine they don't have nearly the same budgets mind.

syklops

VelcroGhost wrote: »

How many of these live in Ireland? Even the big TV stars fly in from London for a few weeks/months work.

The problem is the money. They don't have the money to attract really good talent.

Colin Farrell started off as a traveller in Ballykissangel. Its all well and good to say we dont have the talent in Ireland, but the truth is the talent in Ireland don't have the opportunity.

syklops

emanresu esrever wrote: »

on another note how many minutes was it on for. It started about 8.32 on my watch and finished at 8.55. Then you consider the circa 5 minute ad break and title sequence, it effectively amounted to 17 minutes. and there was a lot of non dialogue location camera work, which while impressively shot took a couple of minutes from show, so we will say 15 minutes of dialogue which is pretty poor. an hour long opening episode would have been a better idea. And thats ignoring the staring into the camera shots!

oh and with multiple mentions of the respective family names, "the hennessys".... "the Kielys"....i imagibe we can take another minute or so off!!

21 minutes, 20 seconds including titles.

Neeson

It's so short you'd be better off watching it online if you've a spare 20 minutes.

Grab All Association

Strazdas wrote: »

Give it a chance though. They were unlikely to come up with a stunning opening episode that was going to hook the whole country in. When Brookside started in the UK in 1982, it had a very different feel to other shows but it was a similarly low key start to Red Rock and they spent the first few weeks and months establishing the characters.

The only shows that ever had a good pilot episode were Family Guy, MacGyver and Father Ted.

Elmo

Neeson wrote: »

It's so short you'd be better off watching it online if you've a spare 20 minutes.

Only used the TV3 Player once or twice but is jammed with ads.

Neeson

Elmo wrote: »

Only used the TV3 Player once or twice but is jammed with ads.

Adblock!

emanresu esrever

As a matter of interest, was it mentioned how the guards got notification of a body lying in an obscure location. If someone found a body, would they just call the guards and saunter off, especially if body had a pulse! I can't imagine the Gardai just happened to be on the beat down that way at that time of the morning!

cloud493

No, the opening shot is the body on the beach and the gardai kneeling next to it isn't it?

emanresu esrever

cloud493 wrote: »

No, the opening shot is the body on the beach and the gardai kneeling next to it isn't it?

no i think it was the body on the beach with no surrounding people. then it cut to tbe guards walking up to the body, very casually, and just calling an ambulance.

eviltwin

I thought it was okay. Its going to take a while to establish so I'll give it the chance it deserves. No great soap ever started on a high. The one thing I hated was the terrible theme tune. A harmonica? Really? And that gombeen guard is already starting to annoy me but maybe thats the idea.

MelanieC

They should've made the first episode at least an hour long to establish characters & background story & maje us want to follow their story.
As it was,we barely got a glimpse at any characters really in 20 mins & certainly none of them are likeable or relateable so far.

Will give it a chance of course to see if it finds its feet but first showing could've been & should've been sooooo much better & pulled us in. :-(

podgeandrodge

MelanieC wrote: »

They should've made the first episode at least an hour long to establish characters & background story & maje us want to follow their story.
As it was,we barely got a glimpse at any characters really in 20 mins & certainly none of them are likeable or relateable so far.

Will give it a chance of course to see if it finds its feet but first showing could've been & should've been sooooo much better & pulled us in. :-(

I liked some of the unlikeable characters! But I agree - a one hour show rather than 2 short half hours would be better.

Someone else said earlier that this needs to be given a chance, and I think that means watching a few episodes. I'm old enough to remember the first episodes of other tv dramas that were indescribably bad. I think it's true to say that we have a lot more choice now than years ago so people are more impatient to form a view.

Leeenda mark 1!

Atlantic Dawn

Do Garda hats only come in one size, they look too big for them.

Lapin

Has everyone given up on this already?
Only myself and the Gunner from Tipp watching tonight.

kneemos

Lapin wrote: »

Has everyone given up on this already?
Only myself and the Gunner from Tipp watching tonight.

Dull and dreary with a lot of looking at each other,we're supposed to fill in the silences ourselves apparently.

Lapin

Lapin wrote: »

Has everyone given up on this already?
Only myself and the Gunner from Tipp watching tonight.

And its not with eager anticipation either i can tell you :pac: Although compared to Fair City its like a top HBO series.

HeidiHeidi

I'm here.

But sick as a small hospital, so no energy to form opinions, never mind post them.

It's OK.

dodzy

That coppers gas. Where was that road with his rental property there? Something avenue? Couldn't make it out.

Atlantic Dawn

The Gardaí won't like this.

SweetChaos

Loving it! You can see how the shops and cafes are going to be set up as it continues

We started to get to know a bit more of the characters tonight and the bit of comedy was good I thought it was going the love/hate route

Looking forward to next weeks episodes