RED ROCK [News, Spoilers and Discussion]

podgeandrodge

So Red Rock is starting in January. Will it be successful? I hope it gives a couple of the others a run for their money.

Article in one of the papers today.

Strazdas

Interesting that most of the characters seem to be Guards. Sounds like it will be like the later version of The Bill or that Aussie show Blue Heelers.

TOMs WIFE

Strazdas wrote: »

Interesting that most of the characters seem to be Guards. Sounds like it will be like the later version of The Bill or that Aussie show Blue Heelers.

I think it's also about 2 feuding families. I'd like if it turns out to be original and something that doesn't follow the same old soapy pattern.

Mr.Crinklewood

TOMs WIFE wrote: »

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Are you my mother in law?

TOMs WIFE

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Are you my mother in law?

Yes.

And no. Stick to your wife from now on, it was a once off.

podgeandrodge

Moving back on topic

Article in Indo on the show:

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/red-rock-tv3-out-to-bust-rivals-with-new-cop-show-as-real-garda-helps-30807186.html

Grab All Association

Garda 5 and 7 will be the stupid cops
Garda 1 bad cop
Garda 2 Feminist woman power closeted lesbian tough chick with dick type cop
Garda 3 Slutty naive unlucky in love cop
Garda 4 good cop
Garda 6 full of himself metrosexual ladies man cop

podgeandrodge

Chris___ wrote: »

Garda 5 and 7 will be the stupid cops
Garda 1 bad cop
Garda 2 Feminist woman power closeted lesbian tough chick with dick type cop
Garda 3 Slutty naive unlucky in love cop
Garda 4 good cop
Garda 6 full of himself metrosexual ladies man cop

I'm finding myself agreeing with you on each one

podgeandrodge

Promo being shown during Coronation Street tonight.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/tv3-bids-to-rule-the-soap-world-with-red-rock-1.2032828

Strazdas

TOMs WIFE wrote: »

I think it's also about 2 feuding families. I'd like if it turns out to be original and something that doesn't follow the same old soapy pattern.

Yeah the fact that there are two families makes it a bit different. It seems halfway between a regular soap and a police soap.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

From what I've heard, it seems that the police are going to keep getting dragged into the feud between the families, which will tie it all together. I think it might actually be pretty good - looking forward to it now anyway.

Grab All Association

Pity. I think a modern Irish version of Heartbeat would work.

podgeandrodge

Saw the promo, I am intrigued. But I don't watch soaps, my wife does. But it could be good. I liked "bad cop" as coined by Chris earlier.


http://www.tv3.ie/redrock/index.php

paulosam

Going by the ad, it looks like it has a decent budget at least.

Banjaxed82

paulosam wrote: »

Going by the ad, it looks like it has a decent budget at least.

The only worry I'd have is this promo is directed by a feature film director, and the cinematographer is now working on Hollywood action movies.

The TV show will not have these two involved. That said, once it's less of the Raw & Clinic type and more of the Love/Hate, then it could be good.

George White

No elderly characters, though.

kerry4sam

George White wrote: »

No elderly characters, though.

Well presumably due to this being set in a fictional Garda Station and any 'elderly' members would have nice numbers in an office somewhere and
~ not having to restrain unruly prisoners IRL
~ not have to give chase into the unknown, not knowing what to expect and with only a torch to their name IRL *cough cough*

so perhaps reflecting some reality in that sense. They may however have 'elderly' characters introduced at varying points as supporting characters and not the main actors in the station-surroundings.

This could be interesting so will tune in myself tbh,
Just my Thoughts anywhoo,
kerry4sam

podgeandrodge

A breakdown of all the characters roles is here:

https://twitter.com/RedRockTV3/media

JP Liz V1

The ad is already grating on me but I like that version of the song

Strazdas

First trailer for the show : the Garda station looks impressive with a large number of rooms and cells

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UGSVG_-d7o

podgeandrodge

Saw Bad Cop billboard near Bord Gaís Theatre this evening.

Like the caption - "It's not just criminals that cross the line"




edit: have already seen a few more....



And an article on TV3 website about another actor who plays the superintendent.

http://www.tv3.ie/entertainment_article.php?locID=1.803.813&article=153920

paulosam

Strazdas wrote: »

First trailer for the show : the Garda station looks impressive with a large number of rooms and cells

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Shooting it in the old John Player factory on the South Circular Road apparently.

Strazdas

paulosam wrote: »

Shooting it in the old John Player factory on the South Circular Road apparently.

Yes, so I heard. It should give it an air of authenticity to have the indoor scenes in a real building with rooms and corridors and stairs rather than a TV studio.

Elmo

They ad is highly stylized. It'd be nice to see a clip of the actual soap.

George White

kerry4sam wrote: »

Well presumably due to this being set in a fictional Garda Station and any 'elderly' members would have nice numbers in an office somewhere and
~ not having to restrain unruly prisoners IRL
~ not have to give chase into the unknown, not knowing what to expect and with only a torch to their name IRL *cough cough*

so perhaps reflecting some reality in that sense. They may however have 'elderly' characters introduced at varying points as supporting characters and not the main actors in the station-surroundings.

This could be interesting so will tune in myself tbh,
Just my Thoughts anywhoo,
kerry4sam

I meant within the family, like a grandmotherly matriarch or old patriarch fighting with his son over the future.

George White

podgeandrodge wrote: »

I'm finding myself agreeing with you on each one

3 apparently is the "wholesome one", apparently.

Elmo

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

The TV show will not have these two involved. That said, once it's less of the Raw & Clinic type and more of the Love/Hate, then it could be good.

It looks like more along the lines of Raw and Clinic its a soap after all. And if it can match either it will be doing well, however I think some of the producers were involved with Deception!

Strazdas

Elmo wrote: »

It looks like more along the lines of Raw and Clinic its a soap after all. And if it can match either it will be doing well, however I think some of the producers were involved with Deception!

It definitely won't be too similar to Love Hate. It goes out before the watershed meaning they can't show any real violence or bad language.

Go Harvey Go

Visited Dublin today, walking from Heuston to Finglas and back - and the ads were on just about every billboard and bus shelter I passed by.

Safe to say, then, that if the show is a flop, it'll be a pretty big one...

Strazdas

Go Harvey Go wrote: »

Visited Dublin today, walking from Heuston to Finglas and back - and the ads were on just about every billboard and bus shelter I passed by.

Safe to say, then, that if the show is a flop, it'll be a pretty big one...

For sure, but their promo is impressive anyway....they're making sure everyone in the country knows about the show and when it starts

Elmo

According to the Irish Times it is good, but they could say no more.

Strazdas

Elmo wrote: »

According to the Irish Times it is good, but they could say no more.

Given the massive promo drive behind it, the producers and TV3 must be quietly confident they have a potential hit on their hands. You'd wonder if they would do all that for a show they were far from sure about.

Elmo

Strazdas wrote: »

Given the massive promo drive behind it, the producers and TV3 must be quietly confident they have a potential hit on their hands. You'd wonder if they would do all that for a show they were far from sure about.

Well they need to regardless of the quality as the need to get the word out. It's a soap

Strazdas

Elmo wrote: »

Well they need to regardless of the quality as the need to get the word out. It's a soap

For sure, but it looks like they're spending an absolute fortune promoting the show in advance. At the very least, it would suggest they have high hopes for the programme.

Elmo

Strazdas wrote: »

For sure, but it looks like they're spending an absolute fortune promoting the show in advance. At the very least, it would suggest they have high hopes for the programme.

They'd still have to make sure that they get an audience regardless of quality remember this is their first major soap and they have little other programming to support it.

Strazdas

Elmo wrote: »

They'd still have to make sure that they get an audience regardless of quality remember this is their first major soap and they have little other programming to support it.

True, but this appears to be the biggest promo for any show they've done in their 16 year history. They certainly seem to regard it as being a key part of their schedule for the next year or two.

Elmo

Strazdas wrote: »

True, but this appears to be the biggest promo for any show they've done in their 16 year history. They certainly seem to regard it as being a key part of their schedule for the next year or two.

It's the biggest show they have done in their 16 year history. :eek:

Strazdas

Elmo wrote: »

It's the biggest show they have done in their 16 year history. :eek:

I'd say The Apprentice was their previous biggest one but this is their first proper attempt at drama.

EB_2013

They tried it with the mini series Deception before but that was awful. I just hope Red Rock is better than it. They seem to have spent so much on it that I don't think they could afford for it to be another Eldorado.

Any idea what time and days it will be airing at.

podgeandrodge

Strazdas wrote: »

True, but this appears to be the biggest promo for any show they've done in their 16 year history. They certainly seem to regard it as being a key part of their schedule for the next year or two.

I think I read they have committed already to 2 years and are filming that much anyway.

EB_2013 wrote: »

They tried it with the mini series Deception before but that was awful. I just hope Red Rock is better than it. They seem to have spent so much on it that I don't think they could afford for it to be another Eldorado.

Any idea what time and days it will be airing at.

Wednesday 7th January 8.30pm, Thursday 8th January 8.30pm and twice a week after, presumably those days and times.

Elmo

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Wednesday 7th January 8.30pm, Thursday 8th January 8.30pm and twice a week after, presumably those days and times.

They have said they are not sticking to set times as of yet, guess they want to see where they will get the soap opera crowd. IMO Wed 8:30 and Sun 8:30 is the best option.

EB_2013

It's going to be interesting to see what UTV Ireland stick up against Red Rock as they both launch around the same date. Once they don't go up against any of the UK soaps they should be okay.

Strazdas

EB_2013 wrote: »

It's going to be interesting to see what UTV Ireland stick up against Red Rock as they both launch around the same date. Once they don't go up against any of the UK soaps they should be okay.

There will certainly be no clash of Corrie and Red Rock with UTV Ireland anyway.....they'll surely have to air Coronation Street at the exact same time it goes out in the UK (and has done on TV3 up until now).

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Elmo wrote: »

They have said they are not sticking to set times as of yet, guess they want to see where they will get the soap opera crowd. IMO Wed 8:30 and Sun 8:30 is the best option.

Wednesday at 8.30 seemed to be the safest bet for them from the word go. I was also thinking Sunday at 8.30 would be a good spot for the second episode, but then they'd have to change it everytime the X Factor came around, so it seemed they were going to have to clash with a Soap at some point and Ros na Rún at 8.30 on a Thursday will be least damaging to Red Rock it seems - going up against any of the UK soaps or Fair City would have been a much worse decision in the long run. I'm a fan of Ros na Rún, but to be honest with Sky+ and the players online, it doesn't really bother me where they put it, I can watch both regardless...

I'm assuming they'll do an omnibus once a week too and plenty of repeats...

emanresu esrever

christ "Amber" certainly grew up didn't she!!

Kermit.de.frog

Did I read somewhere that TV3 are splashing €80m on this!?

Could be wrong but fairly sure I did read that somewhere.

Elmo

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Did I read somewhere that TV3 are splashing €80m on this!?

Could be wrong but fairly sure I did read that somewhere.

It gets out of hand they don't even earn that in ad revenue. Their spending about €5m on the programme

pmasterson95

emanresu esrever wrote: »

christ "Amber" certainly grew up didn't she!!

Dont get reference

emanresu esrever

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Dont get reference

the girl who played amber in that infamously odd rte series named, wait for it, Amber, is in Redrock....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwDDoyRIMAA5k8T.jpg

Elmo

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Dont get reference

RTÉ drama Amber the actress who played Amber is in Red Rock.

Strazdas

emanresu esrever wrote: »

the girl who played amber in that infamously odd rte series named, wait for it, Amber, is in Redrock....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwDDoyRIMAA5k8T.jpg

Good looking girl in that photo