Formula 1 2015: General Discussion Thread

Zcott

I wonder how Vettel feels after hearing all this...

Going Strong

Rumours on the web that Bob Bell and Rob Marshall have told Ferrari "Thanks but no thanks."

Midfield anonymity beckons for a few seasons I reckon.

It'll be like watching the early 90's races where you'd see the red Ferraris buried in the mid-pack at the start of every race.

iano.p

Going Strong wrote: »

Rumours on the web that Bob Bell and Rob Marshall have told Ferrari "Thanks but no thanks."

Midfield anonymity beckons for a few seasons I reckon.

It'll be like watching the early 90's races where you'd see the red Ferraris buried in the mid-pack at the start of every race.

I bet vettel is starting to regret the move . I can't see Ferrari achieve much in the next 5 years.

eviltimeban

iano.p wrote: »

I bet vettel is starting to regret the move . I can't see Ferrari achieve much in the next 5 years.

I dunno, he's achieved so much - what's left? Perhaps he may have peaked too early, but I would say he's relishing the change to "do a Schumacher" and pull an underperforming team (Ferrari in both cases) up to championship winning levels.

Whether Vettel can inspire a team like Schumacher did is questionable.

Going Strong

From what little there is out there, it seems that the internal politics in Ferrari is the stumbling block to so many departures and failures to hire any big names. Reportedly, Adrian Newey was in talks with Montezemolo about joining the Scuderia, internal politics got in the way with one faction leaking the details. Red Bull got wind of it, so made him an offer he couldn't refuse re: scaling back his F1 work and doing his dream Americas Cup yachting instead. Bob Bell was reportedly on his way to Ferrari according to reports last month but this month......

Jordan 199

Gintonious wrote: »

Its all well and good firing these people, but has there been any replacements mentioned? And I mean realistic ones at that, time and time again Newy's name has been thrown about, but he will never be in red.

Pat Fry has been replaced by someone called Pat Grill.

christy c

Jordan 191 wrote: »

Pat Fry has been replaced by someone called Pat Grill.

I think it's time to close the forum for the winter

dloob

greedygoblin wrote: »

So some of Red Bulls stolen trophies have been recovered (linky).

In a lake!
I'm still scratching my head at the motive behind this.

eviltimeban

dloob wrote: »

In a lake!
I'm still scratching my head at the motive behind this.

Maybe they were trying to lift the curse.

KarlFitz01

Does anyone know when the BBC are doing their year review show it's normally before Christmas?

Joeseph Balls

KarlFitz01 wrote: »

Does anyone know when the BBC are doing their year review show it's normally before Christmas?

I believe its the 27th of December

KarlFitz01

Joeseph Balls wrote: »

I believe its the 27th of December

Thanks

Frank Bullitt

JEV joins Ferrari as their simulator driver, which would indicate De La Rosa would be laving also.

Charlie-Bravo

Ooh, maybe De la Rosa could go back to McLaren for the latest installment of Spygate: The Retirement years! :pac:

But McLaren don't need a second test drive.

christy c

Gintonious wrote: »

JEV joins Ferrari as their simulator driver, which would indicate De La Rosa would be laving also.

Possible replacement for Rai next year? I hope he gets a drive again, I think he's good enough

Frank Bullitt

christy c wrote: »

Possible replacement for Rai next year? I hope he gets a drive again, I think he's good enough

You would wonder then why did they hire Guit so, other than for marketing in Mexico.

Infoanon

Gintonious wrote: »

You would wonder then why did they hire Guit so, other than for marketing in Mexico.

Mexican sponsors money and it resolves the Ferrari supported Sauber team and their driver mess.

Esteban is also reckoned to be fairly handy behind the wheel and more to the point who else was available with that level of experience and youth on their side.

kellymick39

I really hope Button stomps all over Alonso next year and shows him a few ricks aswell.
Hoppefully Honda and McLaren can give both drivers a good package for next year too.

kellymick39

I really hope Button stomps all over Alonso next year and shows him a few tricks aswell.
Hoppefully Honda and McLaren can give both drivers a good package for next year too.

iano.p

kellymick39 wrote: »

I really hope Button stomps all over Alonso next year and shows him a few tricks aswell.
Hoppefully Honda and McLaren can give both drivers a good package for next year too.

I can't see that happening. I think alonso is the best driver on the grid.

Ghost Train

Wasn't much between Hamilton and Alonso when they were at McLaren
Button didn't struggle against Hamilton during their three years together

Would think Button should have the advantage at the start of the year, having been 5 years with McLaren

Maybe car will suit Alonso better

I'd be hopeful it will be pretty close between them but if car isn't competitive then it mightn't really matter

AMKC

Ferrari confirms Mercedes engineer Jock Clear will replace Pat Fry - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117210

Some good news for Ferrari maybe.

Also "Ferrari calls for F1 fan revolutionhttp://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117214

HighLine

AMKC wrote: »

Ferrari confirms Mercedes engineer Jock Clear will replace Pat Fry - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117210

Some good news for Ferrari maybe.

Also "Ferrari calls for F1 fan revolutionhttp://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117214

I think the only good news for Ferrari would be if Jock took some power units with him.

pmasterson95

Gutierrez & Vergne would certainly freshen up the paddock instead of Gene and De La Rosa definitely smart move there. Always think test/reserves should be at least under 28......both Pedro and Marc comfortably exceeded that

Killinator

Seb Buemi will be back as a Red Bull reserve driver for 2015 after an extremely impressive season in the WEC.

GarIT

Killinator wrote: »

Seb Buemi will be back as a Red Bull reserve driver for 2015 after an extremely impressive season in the WEC.

Doing well in Formula E too.

Frank Bullitt

GarIT wrote: »

Doing well in Formula E too.

Clearly should still be in F1.

Killinator

Gintonious wrote: »

Clearly should still be in F1.

Agreed, he deserves alot more than a reserve driver role.

Zcott

AMKC wrote: »

Ferrari confirms Mercedes engineer Jock Clear will replace Pat Fry - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117210

Some good news for Ferrari maybe.

Also "Ferrari calls for F1 fan revolutionhttp://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117214

Big coup for Ferrari there, Jock knows his way around a racing car alright. It was certainly a surprise when it was announced he was leaving Mercedes.

Wonder if this is just the first high profile signing Ferrari have planned?

Going Strong

AMKC wrote: »

Also "Ferrari calls for F1 fan revolutionhttp://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117214

This wouldn't be the same Ferrari that went about issuing "Cease & Desist" orders to it's own fans making them take down their websites so as to protect it's brand image would it? Or am I thinking of a different Ferrari altogether?