Why is it illegal to sell/purchase sex?

lazybones32 · 02-12-2014 5:14pm #1

Why exactly, if anyone knows?

We 'sell' our skills, ideas and our bodies (manual workers, soldiers, black-market organs, etc) but sex is still a crime to purchase with money. Paying for sex with candles, dinner and wine is called romance.

Instead of punishing one party to a 'criminal activity', should it just be legalised?

Lyaiera · 02-12-2014 5:17pm

I guess the broad answer is it's down to morality and the possibility of exploitation.

ScumLord · 02-12-2014 5:18pm

The Catholic church.

Carlos Orange · 02-12-2014 5:20pm

I thought prostitution was currently legal.

uch · 02-12-2014 5:20pm

This should be fun,,,..

biko · 02-12-2014 5:20pm

lazybones32 wrote: »

Paying for sex with candles, dinner and wine is called romance.

Romance isn't wining and dining for sex. Romance has to do with feelings for each other and starting a relationship.
Next date, try saying "I'll pay for dinner and then we sex it up and never see each other again"

My issue with prostitution is when the prostitute actually isn't willing but pressed into it (be it male or female prostitute).
Check out www.mydangerousloverboy.com

Cyber Ghost · 02-12-2014 5:21pm

Porn is legal in a lot of jurisdictions where prostitution is not.

It's ok to pay a woman to suck a guy's dick if there's cameras there, but highly illegal otherwise?

PutDownArtist · 02-12-2014 5:22pm

Has the law been passed already?

There goes any chance of me getting any action for a while. :-(

ScumLord · 02-12-2014 5:25pm

biko wrote: »

My issue with prostitution is when the prostitute actually isn't willing but pressed into it (be it male or female prostitute).

I think a person should be able to sell their body for sex. I'm fairly sure the percentage that actually enjoy the work is tiny but how many people are forced into a job they hate?

While prostitution is probably the worst horrible job you can have, in some cases it may well be better than nothing. Is it any better to take away peoples fall back, last resort job and force them onto the streets?

catallus · 02-12-2014 5:27pm

Because sexual relations are the essence of our humanity; the taboo is against selling your humanity.

ScumLord · 02-12-2014 5:30pm

catallus wrote: »

Because sexual relations are the essence of our humanity;

I think you'll find there are a hell of a lot of other creatures that have sex and plenty that form an emotional bound with it.

catallus · 02-12-2014 5:32pm

ScumLord wrote: »

I think you'll find there are a hell of a lot of other creatures that have sex and plenty that form an emotional bound with it.

I'm sure it suits your misanthropic pov to believe so. But we are above animals, just as we are beneath God.

02-12-2014 5:33pm

catallus wrote: »

Because sexual relations are the essence of our humanity; the taboo is against selling your humanity.

What the actual fawk does this crap mean? Pseudo-intellectual bullcrap

Religion, that's the reason. People go on about exploitation but having criminal gangs running black market brothels allows exactly for this.
If there were legally operated brothels with registered workers, where would be the exploitation?

catallus · 02-12-2014 5:34pm

Deleted User wrote: »

If there were legally operated brothels with registered workers, where would be the exploitation?

The exploitation would still be there, just that it would be legal?

02-12-2014 5:34pm

catallus wrote: »

I'm sure it suits your misanthropic pov to believe so. But we are above animals, just as we are beneath God.

Bwahahaha what nonsense

02-12-2014 5:34pm

catallus wrote: »

The exploitation would still be there, just that it would be legal?

How?

lazybones32 · 02-12-2014 5:35pm

biko wrote: »

My issue with prostitution is when the prostitute actually isn't willing but pressed into it (be it male or female prostitute).
Check out www.mydangerousloverboy.com

That isn't prostitution then, is it? No-one is seeking to legitimise human trafficking, holding people against their will and raping them, so for the purpose of a simple conversation, we will be speaking about people who choose to sell sexual pleasure to another for money.

Breffnigolfer · 02-12-2014 5:36pm

It's for the greater good, to protect the vulnerable people who are exploited by domineering managers/pimps/traffickers etc

02-12-2014 5:37pm

Breffnigolfer wrote: »

It's for the greater good, to protect the vulnerable people who are exploited by domineering managers/pimps/traffickers etc

You mean that the kind of happens right now, under the current system?

RobertKK · 02-12-2014 5:41pm

It leads to crime, even in Amsterdam they closed down some of the red light district as it is being blamed for crime.
Some of the marijuana shops are being shut down too.

http://time.com/74217/court-amsterdam-mayor-can-ban-red-light-district-pot-shops/

ScumLord · 02-12-2014 5:43pm

catallus wrote: »

I'm sure it suits your misanthropic pov to believe so. But we are above animals, just as we are beneath God.

So other animals don't have sex? There are no other animals that form life long monogamous relationships? How are we above other animals?

It never ceases to amaze me how the fundi religious can ignore what's right in front of their faces so they can keep their fantasies alive.

02-12-2014 5:44pm

RobertKK wrote: »

It leads to crime, even in Amsterdam they closed down some of the red light district as it is being blamed for crime.
Some of the marijuana shops are being shut down too.

http://time.com/74217/court-amsterdam-mayor-can-ban-red-light-district-pot-shops/

alcohol leads to crime, quick close the pubs

Delirium · 02-12-2014 5:45pm

catallus wrote: »

Because sexual relations are the essence of our humanity; the taboo is against selling your humanity.

That makes no sense.

If sexual relations are the essence of humanity, then why not let people pay for sex so they can fully experience humanity?

ScumLord · 02-12-2014 5:47pm

RobertKK wrote: »

It leads to crime, even in Amsterdam they closed down some of the red light district as it is being blamed for crime.
Some of the marijuana shops are being shut down too.

The fact is the red light district is one of the safest parts of the city because the police patrol the area constantly.

And here's a the BBC with an article saying the exact opposite. In reality Time are a few months late to this story and a few steps behind what happened.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-20165371

Green Mile · 02-12-2014 5:47pm

catallus wrote: »

I'm sure it suits your misanthropic pov to believe so. But we are above animals, just as we are beneath God.

Are you serious, For the love of Allah

floggg · 02-12-2014 5:49pm

biko wrote: »

Romance isn't wining and dining for sex. Romance has to do with feelings for each other and starting a relationship.
Next date, try saying "I'll pay for dinner and then we sex it up and never see each other again"

My issue with prostitution is when the prostitute actually isn't willing but pressed into it (be it male or female prostitute).
Check out www.mydangerousloverboy.com

I would imagine the risk of exploitation or forced prostitution is only increased by illegality.

If the welfare of the men and women involved in prostituion is the primary concern, then surely this is best served by taking them out of the criminal sphere where they are at serious risk of coercion, and putting them into a regulated and supervised system which ensures appropriate health and welfare safeguards are in place, and provides enough resources to ensure that people who want an out have one.

Slicemeister · 02-12-2014 5:49pm

Ridiculous law. Just goes to show incapable we are that we can't even set up a prostitution industry in an ultra safe environment for everyone involved. Regulate it with harsh penalties, constant health and welfare screening, taxing systems policing etc.

floggg · 02-12-2014 5:53pm

RobertKK wrote: »

It leads to crime, even in Amsterdam they closed down some of the red light district as it is being blamed for crime.
Some of the marijuana shops are being shut down too.

http://time.com/74217/court-amsterdam-mayor-can-ban-red-light-district-pot-shops/

But criminalising it leads to worse crime - exploitation, trafficking, pimping, and puts the prostitutes at greater risk of violence and abuse by both pimps and johns.

catallus · 02-12-2014 5:53pm

SW wrote: »

If sexual relations are the essence of humanity, then why not let people pay for sex so they can fully experience humanity?

Sex is the physical expression of Love.

One can no more validly sell sex and remain truly human than one can sell love.

Neither does one have to experience sex to experience love. Love has many guises.

floggg · 02-12-2014 5:56pm

catallus wrote: »

Sex is the physical expression of Love.

One can no more validly sell sex and remain truly human than one can sell love.

Neither does one have to experience sex to experience love. Love has many guises.

Do you actually believe this nonsense or just a really dedicated wind up merchant.

And are you suggesting that prostitutes aren't truly human? Nice.

I wonder is that how Jay-C felt about Mary Magdalene?

PS - that physical expression of love crap is some ridiculous subjective chick flick crap. Sex is a physical act and has no necessary emotional import. No strings sex for pleasures sake is still sex - and can often be great sex at that.

Lyaiera · 02-12-2014 5:56pm

catallus wrote: »

Sex is the physical expression of Love.

Nah, sex is doing shameful things with your bits.

Why is it illegal to sell/purchase sex?

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