N86 - Tralee to Dingle [advance works ongoing for Phase 3]

Cookiemunster

Events are ahead of your plans for the N/M21. The M21 from the end of the current M20 to Rathkeale, with the spur from Rathkeale to Foynes forming the Limerick to Foynes Road project is already before ABP. The decision is due in October. The thread is here

Route options have already been released for the proposed bypasses of Newcastlewest and Abbeyfeale and the first round of public consultation for each is already closed. The are threads for both .

Newcastlewest thread

Abbeyfeale thread https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057826816/www.n21abbeyfeale.ie (For some reason I can't do a third hyperlink).

BelfastVanMan

Indeed, leaving a few short gaps of decent SC on the N21, which will hopefully be filled in in due course.

(Not holding my breath...)

marno21

Tender in Q4

https://www.radiokerry.ie/featured/tender-for-major-works-on-n86-expected-to-be-published-later-this-year-249303

cheerylemon

Been off a while, any progress?

spacetweek

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117834943#Comment_117834943

It's hard to determine where Ballygarret to Ballynasare is; Google Maps reports multiple conflicting locations for Ballynasare.

It says only 3 million allocated which sounds like a short scheme. However I'm hoping the actual route is this, am I right?

BelfastVanMan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118057546#Comment_118057546

No, I'm afraid not.

It's from the end of the most recent scheme near Banogue Hairpin, to the west side of Anascaul.

It will remove the next two awful hairpins.

Chris_5339762

That'll be nice to have. Will 3 million be enough though? Seems like a very hilly area, would have thought it would be more expensive.

BelfastVanMan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118061649#Comment_118061649

I was thinking that, too.

I am not an expert on such matters, sadly; perhaps someone else might have an idea?

Perhaps it's because the land up there is much cheaper?

KrisW1001

The article only says that the €3.6 million is a local contribution towards the project, it makes no mention of the total cost.

BelfastVanMan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118062932#Comment_118062932

Ah, good man.

spacetweek

Right, so more like this route.

It's a pity they are building this so incredibly slowly. Glacial pace altogether.

Hopontop

Is there a route plan for this short section? How much are they planning on cutting off from the hairpins? The straighter the road the higher the road will have to be. Very interested to see how it turns out

cjpm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118067576#Comment_118067576

Be grateful for any progress whatsoever. Cork Co Co do exactly fcuk all apart from speed bumps in rural villages.

marno21

https://www.radiokerry.ie/news/tender-documents-being-prepared-for-n86-upgrade-262981

Pete_Cavan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118359160#Comment_118359160

So that's €1.6m on top of the €3.6m local contribution discussed upthread, doesn't sound like enough to cover both of these;

Construction in 2021:

c. Ballynasare Lower to Annascaul (4.7km)

f. Doonore North to Ballygarret (2.3km)

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118359448#Comment_118359448

It should be enough for year 1 of construction, with another allocation for next year.

Pete_Cavan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118359676#Comment_118359676

Yes fair point. I'd say though that the local €3.6m allocation is over multiple years so I'd only expect another TII allocation in 23.

marno21

https://www.radiokerry.ie/news/major-road-project-in-the-county-may-have-to-be-revised-267090

Disappointing if true.

Given the cycling component of this project it's baffling how this isn't a major priority, given its shovel ready nature and the prospects for its use.

lottpaul

The expected shortfall in funding has come to pass so the next section to be done will simply be the main street of Annascaul and a short section west of it to the junction with the Inch road. Tenders etc expected by July and construction in the latter part of the year. Annascaul is in a bad way and really needs to be done. Heard an interview about it on Raidio Na Gaeltachta and there was no great optimism that the next stages would happen anytime soon - the next 4 or 5 years at best.

lottpaul

Brief report from Radio Kerry https://www.radiokerry.ie/news/major-road-project-in-west-kerry-delayed-due-to-funding-constraints-277097

marno21

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicPurchase/211023/0/0?returnUrl=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders&b=ETENDERS_SIMPLE

Tender out for 1.6km project from Ballinaclare to the far side of Annascaul village.

This is some cutback from the 7km being progressed until now.

Paddico

Any new pictures or updates on this road?

lordleitrim

https://www.radiokerry.ie/news/next-stage-of-n86-upgrade-to-begin-before-end-of-september-297733 

1.5kms....at this rate the Metro underground in Dublin will be completed first!

marno21

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119642648#Comment_119642648

Yeah this scheme has really been cut to the bone. Pity but it’s a decent start. New surface through Annascaul and then 800m of new road to the west

lottpaul

Works have begun at the junction of the N86 and the road to Inch/Killarney. Three-way traffic lights in operation - seem to be in the sequence of traffic from Dingle, then Inch/Killarney and lastly Annascaul/Tralee. No big delays but very muddy on the road at times. Mostly widening the junction/scraping away the slope on the inland side but also seems to be a lot of excavating on the seaward side. Weather was dire when driving through so couldn't really get a good look.

Imeacht gan teacht ort

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119720308#Comment_119720308

Is that the junction on the west side of Annascaul? That junction has already been upgraded.

lottpaul

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119721736#Comment_119721736

Yes, the same one. I'm guessing it's to create enough room to create a segregated cycle lane in both directions.

Imeacht gan teacht ort

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119723725#Comment_119723725

Ah yes, I see now

Paddico

This project seems to drag for ever.

Removal of bends and all sorts were in the planning and its all ground to a slow halt.

Is it only getting drip fed money from the council or what?

Quackster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120239891#Comment_120239891

No, not the council, TII, as the current Government policy is to divert funding away from roads in favour of public transport and active travel.

The next phase has been reduced in scope to only cover the upgrade of the road though Annascaul village.