Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

5starpool

Ahorseofaman wrote: »

Is'nt that backseat modding:D
(as is this:eek:)

Strictly speaking, it probably is, but I think in a constructive way. It all adds up to reasons why we should speak about other things.

Backseat suggesting would be a better way of putting it I reckon.

Colemania

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Yeah, I'm the same. I think he is going to be great. You could even see Chelsea last night doubling up on him as soon as he got over the halfway line.
He looks alot more composed and is starting to make better decisions.

Was it McLaren or someone else recently who said he needs to become more of a team player or something about giving him his own ball at training because he didn't like to pass? :pac:

Incredible strength and pace for his age and is going to be a super player but you can see there in the first half of the video where he'd have an overlapping fullback but instead try to cut inside himself and on quite a few occasions, lose the ball. Great battle between ivanovic and himself on Derby's left wing and Ivanovic is no weakling!

Hidalgo

greendom wrote: »

The no 10 was a decent writer, but he never cut it as a footballer imo

Troublesome Frenchie. Did share a Christian name with one of the greatest strikers to grace the game.

Hidalgo

Colemania wrote: »

Was it McLaren or someone else recently who said he needs to become more of a team player or something about giving him his own ball at training because he didn't like to pass? :pac:

Incredible strength and pace for his age and is going to be a super player but you can see there in the first half of the video where he'd have an overlapping fullback but instead try to cut inside himself and on quite a few occasions, lose the ball. Great battle between ivanovic and himself on Derby's left wing and Ivanovic is no weakling!

Ya McClaren said when Ibe arrived at Derby it was a case of give one ball to Ibe and one to everyone else for training matches. Also said that he's improving all the time and learning how to be a team player, both with and without the ball.

Ahorseofaman

5starpool wrote: »

Strictly speaking, it probably is, but I think in a constructive way. It all adds up to reasons why we should speak about other things.

Backseat suggesting would be a better way of putting it I reckon.

only kidding ,long time lurker but always enjoy your contributions.

Francie Barrett

It was a ridiculous idea letting Ibe go on loan. He is definitely already at the level where he could be an impact sub/rotation player for us.

Boom_Bap

Francie Barrett wrote: »

It was a ridiculous idea letting Ibe go on loan. He is definitely already at the level where he could be an impact sub/rotation player for us.

I reckon it was a great move. There wouldn't be much room for him on the bench me thinks, but next year if he continues to develop, he would defo be looking at a bench spot, or even a player who rotates in and out of the starting eleven.

Hidalgo

Glenjamin Johnson out for up to a month. The longer you're injured the better you become.

OwaynOTT

Turtyturd wrote: »

He has Charlie Adams at centre back, he obviously hasn't got a clue.

The only one I can think of that's left is - what is he at with original Ronaldo?

Augmerson wrote: »

Bit 1984-esque no?

Really must read that book at some stage, I'm some fcuking sap like.

Augmerson

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Really must read that book at some stage, I'm some fcuking sap like.

Wellll, looks like we've got ourselves a reader...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtyGY_o0Vx8

Turtyturd

OwaynOTT wrote: »

The only one I can think of that's left is - what is he at with original Ronaldo?



.

I wanted to go again with Armin Zola but someone beat me to it with Emile.

Harry Palmr

Francie Barrett wrote: »

It was a ridiculous idea letting Ibe go on loan. He is definitely already at the level where he could be an impact sub/rotation player for us.

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I reckon it was a great move. There wouldn't be much room for him on the bench me thinks, but next year if he continues to develop, he would defo be looking at a bench spot, or even a player who rotates in and out of the starting eleven.

Ibe loan was just what he needs, if he were at Liverpool he'd be scratching about looking for matches, at Derby he has 900 minutes of game time under his belt. I'd say he'd be lucky to have 200 had he stayed.

Hidalgo wrote: »

Glenjamin Johnson out for up to a month. The longer you're injured the better you become.

Good news! Manquillo might get a game though if this Hendo wing back nonsense is retained then maybe not.

Ste-

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ibe loan was just what he needs, if he were at Liverpool he'd be scratching about looking for matches, at Derby he has 900 minutes of game time under his belt. I'd say he'd be lucky to have 20 had he stayed.

Fyp

Chucky the tree

Looking at the line-up tonight it's definitely a case of getting closer to the edge and jumping off into the Rodgers out pit.

SlickRic

just think about it for a second.

Henderson, who had his breakout season last season for us, who broke into the England team proper last season, and is pretty much first choice for his country now, as a CM, has been moved out wide.

why doesn't Pellegrini put Yaya out wide? why doesn't Mourinho put Matic out wide?

i'm not saying Hendo is as good as either, but you get my logic.

the treatment of him is nonsense.

Vicxas

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Looking at the line-up tonight it's definitely a case of getting closer to the edge and jumping off into the Rodgers out pit.

Is there a confirmed lineup yet?

Chucky the tree

SlickRic wrote: »

just think about it for a second.

Henderson, who had his breakout season last season for us, who broke into the England team proper last season, and is pretty much first choice for his country now, as a CM, has been moved out out wide.

why doesn't Pellegrini put Yaya out wide? why doesn't Mourinho put Matic out wide?

i'm not saying Hendo is as good as either, but you get my logic.

the treatment of him is nonsense.

In fairness, the only place Henderson should be moved to is the bench.

Chucky the tree

Vicxas wrote: »

Is there a confirmed lineup yet?

There won't be a confirmed one until an hour before kick off. The leaked one is basically the same formation as Sunday with

Jones
Toure
Skrtel
Lovren
Henderson
Lucas
Gerrard
Moreno
Lallana
Countinho
Sterling

SlickRic

Chucky the tree wrote: »

In fairness, the only place Henderson should be moved to is the bench.

indeed.

but his recent form has been as a wingback.

try him in CM with Lucas behind him, Can alongside him, Gerrard AND Sterling ahead of him, and you might just see a different player.

also, you might remember, earlier in the season, he and Lallana seemed to have a great understanding going at times.

Charlie19

If that really is the tonights starting lineup, the club would seriously want to look at how the training is set up and try and eliminate the chances of the match day team being leaked. Its happening far too often.

Or does this bib theorist thing go on at most clubs.

I wont go into the starting xi, thats another issue.

OwaynOTT

SlickRic wrote: »

indeed.

but his recent form has been as a wingback.

try him in CM with Lucas behind him, Can alongside him, Gerrard AND Sterling ahead of him, and you might just see a different player.

also, you might remember, earlier in the season, he and Lallana seemed to have a great understanding going at times.

Between that earlier understanding and the wing back role recently, he has been poor but not more so than most.
Henderson works well when he doesn't have to think, he needs a fast paced game, ya know the antithesis to us this season so far.

gafferino

SlickRic wrote: »

just think about it for a second.

Henderson, who had his breakout season last season for us, who broke into the England team proper last season, and is pretty much first choice for his country now, as a CM, has been moved out wide.

why doesn't Pellegrini put Yaya out wide? why doesn't Mourinho put Matic out wide?

i'm not saying Hendo is as good as either, but you get my logic.

the treatment of him is nonsense.

Similar to Benitez treatment of Gerrard no?

SlickRic

if that is the lineup, it's not even a joke anymore. Rodgers has no idea what he's doing.

he'd literally be showing us that he's just throwing shít at the wall and hoping it sticks somehow.

and also, where the fúck is Emre Can? he must be delighted that he turned down a return to Bayern Munich.

Harry Palmr

gafferino wrote: »

Similar to Benitez treatment of Gerrard no?

Gerrard could play wide right though, he was never a true midfielder except in his own deluded mind (and that of a desperate Rodgers).

SlickRic

gafferino wrote: »

Similar to Benitez treatment of Gerrard no?

Rafa stuck Gerrard wide, he scored a shítload of goals.

Rafa stuck him up front; we all know how that went with Torres.

are you suggesting Henderson can be that productive from wingback?

shamrock55

So in order to tighten things up at the back rodgers goes for a back 3, he is a genius:rolleyes:

5starpool

SlickRic wrote: »

Rafa stuck Gerrard wide, he scored a shítload of goals.

Rafa stuck him up front; we all know how that went with Torres.

are you suggesting Henderson can be that productive from wingback?

How dare Rafa take a player from a position he was less effective to a position where he was more effective. Outrageous behaviour.

Vicxas

shamrock55 wrote: »

So in order to tighten things up at the back rodgers goes for a back 3, he is a genius:rolleyes:

Less amount of people to cock things up

Gits_bone

Vicxas wrote: »

Less amount of people to cock things up

Or 50% more errors.

Gits_bone

Spot on.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pitchside-europe/three-players-liverpool-must-pick-against-bournemouth-tonight-125402836.html