Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

Turtyturd

United fans still flogging that Palace myth?

NabyLadistheman

#15 wrote: »

After seeing Carragher's analysis last night, I would be more inclined to think that another manager would have won the title. The Crystal Palace game in particular was an epic collapse due to woeful defending; an aspect of the game that Rogers places no emphasis on, according to Carragher. With the way Liverpool were scoring last season, you'd have to think that even a slight improvement in defence would have seen them take the title.

Ah the Crystal Palace demise debate. Jeez it's like some people don't know the story with that match. Pathetic really

Fuhrer

Turtyturd wrote: »

United fans still flogging that Palace myth?

What is the Palace myth?

NukaCola

Oranage2 wrote: »

Constantly? I've posted in this thread 4 or 5 times?!?

Thats a lie.

NukaCola

Fuhrer wrote: »

What is the Palace myth?

Its where the Chelsea game at Anfield didn't exist.

Fuhrer

NukaCola wrote: »

Its where the Chelsea game at Anfield didn't exist.

What?

Turtyturd

Fuhrer wrote: »

What?

Its where the Chelsea game at Anfield didn't exist.

5live

Turtyturd wrote: »

Its where the Chelsea game at Anfield didn't exist.

I love this thread:-)

NukaCola

Fuhrer wrote: »

What?

We lost the league against Chelsea. A lot of people say we lost it when we drew with Palace.

Fuhrer

NukaCola wrote: »

We lost the league against Chelsea. A lot of people say we lost it when we drew with Palace.

Drawing with Palace probably didnt help

brevity

This thread is really informative tonight. Spelling stuff out for all the poor souls. The Christmas spirit is alive in the Liverpool thread.

NukaCola

Fuhrer wrote: »

Drawing with Palace probably didnt help

Of course, and naively we went to try and score more at 3-0 to reduce the GD deficit but it was a lost cause after that Chelsea game and we did get caught out.

Chucky the tree

Fuhrer wrote: »

Drawing with Palace probably didnt help

Made no difference. We beat Palace we still would have lost the title.

Fuhrer

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Made no difference. We beat Palace we still would have lost the title.

You never know, City might have got nervous on the last day and might have lost. But seeing Liverpool collapsing like they did probably took all the pressure off and gave them a comfortable final day win

Chucky the tree

Fuhrer wrote: »

You never know, City might have got nervous on the last day and might have lost. But seeing Liverpool collapsing like they did probably took all the pressure off and gave them a comfortable final day win

Doubt it really. City has good experience winning the title on the last day as you'll know so I think a collapse would have been hugely unlikely. Could say that we could have collapsed as well if we were in the driving seat on the last day. The Palace game ranks quite far down in matches I look back and think "if only..."

Fuhrer

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Doubt it really. City has good experience winning the title on the last day as you'll know so I think a collapse would have been hugely unlikely. Could say that we could have collapsed as well if we were in the driving seat on the last day. The Palace game ranks quite far down in matches I look back and think "if only..."

City also have a history of struggling to beat an inferior team on the final day to win it, and only a deranged Joey Barton losing what little of his mind he had allowed them to do that.


It might not be the main reason for Liverpools Title challenge collapse but it was definitely a contributing factor

Chucky the tree

Fuhrer wrote: »

City also have a history of struggling to beat an inferior team on the final day to win it, and only a deranged Joey Barton losing what little of his mind he had allowed them to do that.


It might not be the main reason for Liverpools Title challenge collapse but it was definitely a contributing factor

When it mathematically made no difference I have no idea how to you can it definitely was a factor.

5starpool

mosstin wrote: »

Remarkable post. Seemingly in English, yet somehow, not.

Drunkenness combined with predictive texting would be my guess.

Fuhrer

Chucky the tree wrote: »

When it mathematically made no difference I have no idea how to you can it definitely was a factor.

If Liverpool had beaten Palace and Newcastle, City would have to beat West Ham. We saw how hard is what for them to do it last time, therefore it was definitely a factor

Seaba

For me the day the league was lost was when City beat Everton at Goodison. Everton had chances, Hart made one cracking safe and then I think Aguero beat Howard too easily at the near post. Heart sank.

5starpool

Seaba wrote: »

For me the day the league was lost was when City beat Everton at Goodison. Everton had chances, Hart made one cracking safe and then I think Aguero beat Howard too easily at the near post. Heart sank.

That combined with the Chelsea game was the real difference for sure.

Agent Coulson

City getting the late equalizer against Sunderland was another for me.

8-10

I'm on the record anyway for saying that I think Ochoa will turn out to be a great signing and our number 1 by the end of the season. Being the Malaga number 2 right now is being used unfairly against him to be honest. Carlos Kameni is a solid keeper and one of the best keepers from the African continent in recent years. It's akin to saying that Michel Vorm isn't good enough because he's Spurs backup, but I'd have taken him also. Not saying that Kameni is a world beater or anything, I just think it's harsh to use it at something to put him down. Plenty of keepers join a club only to be 2nd choice initially.

Anyway overall I think it's going to be a really shrewd move. Many are disagreeing but it sounds like a done deal so let's see what happens. Please bookmark this post to make me look like an idiot in May! :P

Chucky the tree

8-10 wrote: »

I'm on the record anyway for saying that I think Ochoa will turn out to be a great signing and our number 1 by the end of the season. Being the Malaga number 2 right now is being used unfairly against him to be honest. Carlos Kameni is a solid keeper and one of the best keepers from the African continent in recent years. It's akin to saying that Michel Vorm isn't good enough because he's Spurs backup, but I'd have taken him also. Not saying that Kameni is a world beater or anything, I just think it's harsh to use it at something to put him down. Plenty of keepers join a club only to be 2nd choice initially.

Anyway overall I think it's going to be a really shrewd move. Many are disagreeing but it sounds like a done deal so let's see what happens. Please bookmark this post to make me look like an idiot in May! :P

I agree with that. But by the end of the season I think all Liverpool fans will be crying out for a new keeper. In fact I'll be surprised if there isn't calls for Mignolet to be first choice by the end of February.

mav79

No Balotelli tomorrow, so we either go back to Lambert on his own or try again with Sterling up there.

NukaCola

8-10 wrote: »

I'm on the record anyway for saying that I think Ochoa will turn out to be a great signing and our number 1 by the end of the season. Being the Malaga number 2 right now is being used unfairly against him to be honest. Carlos Kameni is a solid keeper and one of the best keepers from the African continent in recent years. It's akin to saying that Michel Vorm isn't good enough because he's Spurs backup, but I'd have taken him also. Not saying that Kameni is a world beater or anything, I just think it's harsh to use it at something to put him down. Plenty of keepers join a club only to be 2nd choice initially.

Anyway overall I think it's going to be a really shrewd move. Many are disagreeing but it sounds like a done deal so let's see what happens. Please bookmark this post to make me look like an idiot in May! :P

He conceded over 70 goals last season in 30 odd games. I'm not holding out much hope.

Augmerson

Is Jordan Ibe playing for Derby tonight?

5starpool

mav79 wrote: »

No Balotelli tomorrow, so we either go back to Lambert on his own or try again with Sterling up there.

He's out again? What's wrong with him now?

Edit: Crap

This Is Anfield ‏@thisisanfield 6m6 minutes ago
Mario Balotelli ruled OUT of Bournemouth match with groin injury, hasn't traveled with squad.

Chucky the tree

5starpool wrote: »

He's out again? What's wrong with him now?

Same groin issue apparently.

Agent Coulson

https://twitter.com/jamespearceecho/status/544965353923571714