Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

SlickRic

and just to say, there's a fair amount to get at Rafa about, but his treatment of Steven Gerrard is certainly not one of them.

Rafa is just about the only one in the last 10 years who correctly identified his strengths, and found positions on the field for him to play where they could be best utilised.

Most of his other managers have pandered to him to the detriment of his own effectiveness.

if you think about just how amazing a career Gerrard has had, and just what an impact he has had on the club, that sort of statement is frightening. if he was managed absolutely properly throughout his club career, he could have come out of it with even better stats, and maybe more trophies to his name.

brevity

Eeek...

https://twitter.com/karlsentk/status/545210454474522624
https://twitter.com/karlsentk/status/545210490612613120

Agent Coulson

Pre-Bournemouth presser.

Reading Question asked. Transfer committe question asked.

http://www.lfc.vn/presser-matchday/rodgers-pre-bournemouth-presser-lc15-r5/

Fitz*

Any rumoured team for tonight yet?

5starpool

Chucky the tree wrote: »

There won't be a confirmed one until an hour before kick off. The leaked one is basically the same formation as Sunday with

Jones
Toure
Skrtel
Lovren
Henderson
Lucas
Gerrard
Moreno
Lallana
Countinho
Sterling

FitzShane wrote: »

Any rumoured team for tonight yet?

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googled eyes

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2877457/Emile-Heskey-pictured-training-Bolton-bids-short-term-deal.html

We've missed out on Heskey lads.

NabyLadistheman

Sh** xmas for Studge over in Boston getting fit

Magico Gonzalez

Are we still going to reviewing our transfer process whilst we should be doing the hard yards and identifying targets. I wonder if the boys in boston won't close the cheque book and see how he does until the end of the season.

gafferino

SlickRic wrote: »

Rafa stuck Gerrard wide, he scored a shítload of goals.

Rafa stuck him up front; we all know how that went with Torres.

are you suggesting Henderson can be that productive from wingback?

No not suggesting that. But I remember it being a surprise that Gerrard was put out on the right (even though he played there early on). And yes he turned out to be very good thus validating the move. I am merely suggesting that they may think Henderson has values as a winger that we havent seen yet and they have. Its not somewhere I would like to see him play.

J Mysterio

Putting Gerrard out right was awful. That was in his prime too, he had more influence in a central position.

5starpool

gafferino wrote: »

No not suggesting that. But I remember it being a surprise that Gerrard was put out on the right (even though he played there early on). And yes he turned out to be very good thus validating the move. I am merely suggesting that they may think Henderson has values as a winger that we havent seen yet and they have. Its not somewhere I would like to see him play.

Henderson played wide right in his first season at Liverpool (not as a wing back though) and was generally abysmal. Chances are that he has learned as a player in general then, and part of it may have been down to moving to a new club with new pressures, but there is little to suggest it will be a success.

Agent Coulson

J Mysterio wrote: »

Putting Gerrard out right was awful. That was in his prime too, he had more influence in a central position.

Gerrards best seasons as a Liverpool Player were out right and behind Torres not as a CM.

J Mysterio

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Gerrards best seasons as Liverpool Player were out right and behind Torres not as a CM.

'Behind Torres' is a central position.

I maintain he should never have been shunted out right.

gafferino

5starpool wrote: »

Henderson played wide right in his first season at Liverpool (not as a wing back though) and was generally abysmal. Chances are that he has learned as a player in general then, and part of it may have been down to moving to a new club with new pressures, but there is little to suggest it will be a success.

Yep I agree....I am just trying to understand the switch. There is some sort of logic behind it.

Agent Coulson

J Mysterio wrote: »

'Behind Torres' is a central position.

I maintain he should never have been shunted out right.

More number 10 than CM.

5starpool

gafferino wrote: »

Yep I agree....I am just trying to understand the switch. There is some sort of logic behind it.

The logic is the energy that Henderson has, and the engine to cover forward and back. I don't think he'll have the impact that Rodgers hopes, but I would like to be wrong.

Benzino

Is Sakho still injured?

Knex*

This Brad Jones shit is like a bad dream.

Honestly, the season is bad enough without adding him to the mix. The Simpsons' "Stop! Stop! He's already dead!", springs to mind.

J Mysterio

Agent Coulson wrote: »

More number 10 than CM.

Number 10 is a central position ffs. Anyway, he was really good.in CM too when he had the legs.

SlickRic

listen, Rodgers' baffling decisions are going to result in things going one of two ways.

Either, he's proven to be a genius, we start winning, and the start to this season will in the future just be considered a horrible abhorration, or the team's poor results continue, meaning he proves he really is just a chancer, and he's out on his ear pretty soon as a result.

win win tbh.

J Mysterio

Liverpool tracking Juventud youngster Jaime Baez

Liverpool are keeping tabs on ‘new Luis Suarez’ Jaime Baez and have been for a while, according to his agent.

Baez, aged 19, currently plays for Juventud in his native Uruguay.

But he could be set to follow in his compatriot’s footsteps by making his name at Anfield.

His agent Pablo Boselli told Uruguayan newspaper Ovacion: “The reality is that Liverpool have been following Jaime for a while.

“They want to find the new Suarez and he has some characteristics of Luis.”

But the Reds won’t have it all their own way if they are to land Baez.

Boselli continued: “There are more teams interested: Valencia, Seville and one from Italy, but the team from England have already made it clear they want to have the player.

“He belongs to Juventud, the club with which we are associated in some way today.”

He added: “Here we are all a team. The player, his family, the club and the agent – this is like a four-legged table – we take decisions together.”

Boselli indicated that he thought a deal could be done for less than £2.4m.

(http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2014/12/liverpool-tracking-juventud-youngster-jaime-baez/)

Strongbow10

J Mysterio wrote: »

Number 10 is a central position ffs. Anyway, he was really good.in CM too when he had the legs.

Enough of the nonsense, Gerratd has played very little as an out and out central midfielder. He has played centrally in front of Mascherano and Alonso and also played wide right. These 2 were both his best positions in terms of goals and assists.

Gerrard as a box to box midfielder is quite limited. Rafa was right to an extent, he more or less inferred that Gerrard lack the brains to be the main man in central midfield, rather he's best utilised when he has no defensive duties.

He was always going to diminish with age, his game was based on drive, power athleticism, tenacity and quick passing on the counter. His body was his asset rather than his Brain which is the opposite of what say Paul scholes was.

hadepsx

Juventud. Sounds like a cross between juventus and man united.

J Mysterio

Strongbow10 wrote: »

Enough of the nonsense

You can save your indignation. I'm just giving my opinion that I don't think Gerrard should ever have been played out wide right. I think he should have played his entire career in a central position, be that AM/ CM. I don't think thats nonsense.

These days, he should stick to AM or ahead of a dedicated DM.

J Mysterio

hadepsx wrote: »

Juventud. Sounds like a cross between juventus and man united.

I'm sure Suarez will put in a good word

Charlie19

Knex. wrote: »

This Brad Jones shit is like a bad dream.

Honestly, the season is bad enough without adding him to the mix. The Simpsons' "Stop! Stop! He's already dead!", springs to mind.

Guaranteed motm performance tonight.

flanzer

Ah the next Suarez..... like the next Zidane

Magico Gonzalez

hadepsx wrote: »

Juventud. Sounds like a cross between juventus and man united.

literally means "youth"

Francie Barrett

Hope these rumours of a Qatari takeover of Spurs are untrue. Another megabucks club in the mix would pretty much finish any chances of us ever getting top 4.

Gits_bone

We'll win tonight lads. Will all come together for tonight, they are a championship club after all.