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    #272
    RobYourBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    The people of Ireland voted for the present government that have enacted the water charge and local property tax, Does that mean the water charges and LPT are right? Sometimes governments make decisions that are not the will of the people.

    Hence why I included the Pew opinion poll in there too. 82% support it.


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    #273
    chatperche
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭chatperche


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    The people of Ireland voted for the present government that have enacted the water charge and local property tax, Does that mean the water charges and LPT are right? Sometimes governments make decisions that are not the will of the people.

    Who are you to say what is right and wrong and speak on behalf of French people. Have you even ever been to France or asked a French person their view?


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    #274
    The Diabolical Monocle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    The people voted for this did they?

    Yes.


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    #275
    UnitedWeStand
    Registered Users Posts: 597 ✭✭✭UnitedWeStand


    Hitchens wrote: »
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2799981/woman-thrown-paris-opera-cast-refused-perform-unless-removed-muslim-veil.html

    Fair play to the cast of the opera and the security people for upholding the law.

    Hopefully, we would do the same here!

    Allez France!

    FFS How are you that threatened by a piece of clothing. Whats wrong with them wearing it? Thats really sad that they threw the poor woman out for simplying abiding by her religious and moral beliefs.

    Its sad that in France, the land that inspired modern day democracy, that it now resorts to such things as throwing out people for practicing their own beliefs.


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    #276
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    RobYourBuilder wrote: »
    Hence why I included the Pew opinion poll in there too. 82% support it.

    There's a poll in the journal that states 73% won't pay the water charge

    http://www.thejournal.ie/poll-will-you-pay-your-water-charge-bill-1267009-Jan2014/


    The boards poll says 47% wont pay

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057249879

    Another poll saying 30% wont pay the LPT

    http://www.thejournal.ie/property-tax-poll-843172-Mar2013/

    Polls are not accurate, I could go to parts of Dublin and depending on the question get polar opposites in terms of results.


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    #277
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    chatperche wrote: »
    Who are you to say what is right and wrong and speak on behalf of French people. Have you even ever been to France or asked a French person their view?

    I have been to France many times and i just asked a colleague of mine who sits a short distance away, He is from Marseilles and his reply was Meh!


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    #278
    The Diabolical Monocle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    There's a poll in the journal that states 73% won't pay the water charge

    http://www.thejournal.ie/poll-will-you-pay-your-water-charge-bill-1267009-Jan2014/


    The boards poll says 47% wont pay

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057249879

    Another poll saying 30% wont pay the LPT

    http://www.thejournal.ie/property-tax-poll-843172-Mar2013/

    Polls are not accurate, I could go to parts of Dublin and depending on the question get polar opposites in terms of results.


    you could go to Saudi Arabia too.

    Boards will have a whip round for your plane ticket.


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    #279
    chatperche
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭chatperche


    Nodin wrote: »
    And away we go with the silly statements. How many times will it be regurgitated this thread? 10, 20. 30, 40?

    My own experience Nodin, in my own country, France. Being told i was a slût and cover up because I was insulting Allah. because I was wearing a mini-skirt, in broad day light in one Paris'suburbs.
    The number of posters spouting out multi culturalism rubbish and that have no experience of modern day France is staggering!


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    #280
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »
    you could go to Saudi Arabia too.

    Boards will have a whip round for your plane ticket.

    Been there too, Beautiful country.


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    #281
    Hitchens
    Registered Users Posts: 8,003 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    I have been to France many times and i just asked a colleague of mine who sits a short distance away, He is from Marseilles and his reply was Meh!
    ah well if he's from Marseilles and replied 'meh' there's no more to be said :rolleyes:


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    #282
    The Diabolical Monocle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Been there too, Beautiful country.


    I hear they allow niquabs in the operas.


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    #283
    RobYourBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    There's a poll in the journal that states 73% won't pay the water charge

    http://www.thejournal.ie/poll-will-you-pay-your-water-charge-bill-1267009-Jan2014/


    The boards poll says 47% wont pay

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057249879

    Another poll saying 30% wont pay the LPT

    http://www.thejournal.ie/property-tax-poll-843172-Mar2013/

    Polls are not accurate, I could go to parts of Dublin and depending on the question get polar opposites in terms of results.


    Jesus. H. Christ.

    Pew Research Centre conduct public opinion polling, demographic research, media content analysis, and other empirical social science research. It does not take explicit policy positions. They specialise in this area of social science. You don't. Boards doesn't. TheJournal doesn't.


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    #284
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Hitchens wrote: »
    ah well if he's from Marseilles and replied 'meh' there's no more to be said :rolleyes:

    It was in reply to
    chatperche wrote: »
    Who are you to say what is right and wrong and speak on behalf of French people. Have you even ever been to France or asked a French person their view?


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    #285
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »
    I hear they allow niquabs in the operas.

    Maybe go yourself and have a look.


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    #286
    UnitedWeStand
    Registered Users Posts: 597 ✭✭✭UnitedWeStand


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    They're dead right, walk into an opera in a Muslim country wearing an mini skirt and see what happens.

    So it becomes a pathetic game of tit for tat then? Its amazing how some people think our culture is the best in the world, which to be fair it probably is thanks to democracy, free speech and freedom to practice beliefs without persecution - But they then miss the whole point of our culture and believe we should act how the cultures they despise as a way of treating muslims. Countries such as Saudi Arabia or "Muslim country" as you as you state broadly. These countries have yet to evolve proper democracy's free from local religious boundaries. It will take a lot of them time.

    Don't treat ordinary Muslims in a childish "payback" way for the way a select few Middle Eastern governments act. "We wouldn't get away with that over there!" is a very tame, underdeveloped and underthought way of viewing things.


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    #287
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Amazing how so many on here are afraid of a little woman in a veil yet will laud the actions of balaclava clad terrorists sand call them freedom fighters :D


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    #288
    Rory28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Rory28


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Maybe go yourself and have a look.

    Me and my boyfriend are on the way... wait. No I like not being stoned to death. Disregard that.


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    #289
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Rory28 wrote: »
    Me and my boyfriend are on the way... wait. No I like not being stoned to death. Disregard that.

    Cool,


    Stay in your apartment and talk about places you know nothing about then.


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    #290
    Rory28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Rory28


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Cool,


    Stay in your apartment and talk about places you know nothing about then.

    Are you saying if I went over to Saudi with a same sex partner it would be all sun shine and roses? Hardly.


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    #291
    RobYourBuilder
    Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Cool,


    Stay in your apartment and talk about places you know nothing about then.

    Says the lad on a thread about France, whose only experience of the country is chatting to his workmate from Marseille.


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    #292
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    RobYourBuilder wrote: »
    Says the lad on a thread about France, whose only experience of the country is chatting to his workmate from Marseille.

    You must have missed the part of the post where i said i have been to France many times. Nothing new there i suppose.


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    #293
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Rory28 wrote: »
    Are you saying if I went over to Saudi with a same sex partner it would be all sun shine and roses? Hardly.


    Well if you decided to start kissing in the street then no it wouldn't be but then the same.can be said for MANY countries.


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    #294
    Rory28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Rory28


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Well if you decided to start kissing in the street then no it wouldn't be but then the same.can be said for MANY countries.

    Fair point.


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    #295
    CosmicSmash
    Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭CosmicSmash


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    The people of Ireland voted for the present government that have enacted the water charge and local property tax, Does that mean the water charges and LPT are right?

    If anybody was going to drag up or mention the water charges it was going to be you. You must have some obsession about it, or have you now moved on to the niqab as flavour of the month?


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    #296
    PeteFalk78
    Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭PeteFalk78


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Amazing how so many on here are afraid of a little woman in a veil yet will laud the actions of balaclava clad terrorists sand call them freedom fighters :D

    Where are you getting this from?


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    #297
    Hitchens
    Registered Users Posts: 8,003 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Well if you decided to start kissing in the street then no it wouldn't be but then the same.can be said for MANY countries.
    but what if you like kissing in the street?

    what harm would you be doing to anyone?


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    #298
    The Diabolical Monocle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Maybe go yourself and have a look.

    Fail.


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    #299
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Monkeykube wrote: »
    If anybody was going to drag up or mention the water charges it was going to be you. You must have some obsession about it, or have you now moved on to the niqab as flavour of the month?

    Not really answering the question now are we? Would you like to throw out another personal attack or shall we get back on topic?


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    #300
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,474 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Hitchens wrote: »
    but what if you like kissing in the street?

    what harm would you be doing to anyone?

    I wouldn't see any harm in it, the same as i wouldn't see any harm in a woman wearing a veil. I wonder if a bride could be arrested and fined in France if she got caught on the street in her wedding dress with her veil down.


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    #301
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Hitchens wrote: »
    but what if you like kissing in the street?

    what harm would you be doing to anyone?


    Yeah, like wearing a veil.


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