Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Andre 3000

Newcestown 8 points, Fermoy no score at half time at the Hurling League final. Massive wind.

thinkstoomuch1

N20 wrote: »

You'd wonder how they manage in Kilkenny when its really only a very large town! ( no disrespect to Kilkenny, its a beautiful - little- city)

High concentration of clubs in two schools.

I'd argue a Harty win for Castletroy or Doon would be better for Limerick hurling going forward.

Anyway it is what it is and we will see how it will pan out.

Attuide and will to not just compete but be successful has huge part to play in the organisation and structure to build kk success in not just Kieran but Kilkenny cbs also

thinkstoomuch1

Andre 3000 wrote: »

http://www.corkgaa.ie/news/368723/Proposed_Championship_Format_Senior_Premier_Intermediate_Grade

I think this is totally unfair on the smaller clubs

thinkstoomuch1

willietherock wrote: »

Players/students will always travel if they know the school system is good enough to be successful. Kierans pick all over KK because players know they have a Rolls Royce structure with high probably of success. There's a bit of a chicken and egg situation in Cork where the schools aren't successful so aren't drawing in from outside the natural catchment area. The Mon would draw from a 20 mile radius in its hayday. It needs some school to take the thing by the balls and actively monitor the U12/primary school competitions and encourage the cream to go to that particular school. But that ambition doesn't exist in Cork.
Midleton CBS are the exception, they have the catchment area to be super strong in Harty most yrs

Brilliant post

thinkstoomuch1

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Are Dungourney expected to win today?

They won and now in munster final in Mallow in December and I would think will have real chance munster win and at very least turn up to compete like majority cork clubs done cork junior club justice by winning in munster or if beaten like Grenagh least were competitive bar of course the exception when last year castle matyr were humiliated absoultey hammered, totally hammered in munster final and conceded five goals but could been eight only for mondligo taking gas off last few minutes and going easy and yes teams can be beaten but lack want and desire to even compete in the game was imo not great when the game was even in cork venue and they had no excuse also of tired when had kerry champions then bye to the final
I think Dungourney will compete and certainly won't be any worse than last year performance which in itself be bonus
Congratulations on them today.

thinkstoomuch1

Best of luck to nemo tomorrow.

thinkstoomuch1

There is talk but I must emphasise could be just talk nothing official and may be talk but Colin corkery could be joining cork as selector
That may or may not be so

thinkstoomuch1

big_drive wrote: »

Having seen them in the county final replay I'd expect so. I thought they looked very high standard for junior grade. In this type of weather anything could happen but they looked strong with a good mix between fast mobile young lads and a few older lads who brought a bit of experience and physical presence

Would you think any them good cork intermediate next year

Andre 3000

Fermoy won by a point. 1-6 to 8. Two red cards for the two Twomey brothers of Newcestown and Trevor Horgan looks to have done his shoulder again. Horrific conditions.

thinkstoomuch1

Andre 3000 wrote: »

Fermoy won by a point. 1-6 to 8. Two red cards for the two Twomey brothers of Newcestown and Trevor Horgan looks to have done his shoulder again. Horrific conditions.

How did luke play up to that
Does that mean boys out for munster final now
Last year ballyhea missed Callaghan as sent off league game for kerry munster game
I can't understand why club field strong team in league games when there in munster also

Andre 3000

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

How did luke play up to that
Does that mean boys out for munster final now
Last year ballyhea missed Callaghan as sent off league game for kerry munster game
I can't understand why club field strong team in league games when there in munster also

Played good with the wind and battled hard in the second but nobody from either team could get going against the wind to be honest. Dreadful conditions.

One of the lads got two yellows so he should be okay and I was told by a random person at the game that the straight red won't make a difference due to different competition. But yeah Callaghan last year. Hard to tell.

N20

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Attuide and will to not just compete but be successful has huge part to play in the organisation and structure to build kk success in not just Kieran but Kilkenny cbs also

Absolutely

The obsession in the county and sole concentration on hurling combined with the proximity of successfull clubs clustered around the city then fuels their excellent structures. No doubt all overseen by a vigilant co board.

N20

big_drive wrote: »

Having seen them in the county final replay I'd expect so. I thought they looked very high standard for junior grade. In this type of weather anything could happen but they looked strong with a good mix between fast mobile young lads and a few older lads who brought a bit of experience and physical presence

Was Niall motherway playing today, always thought he was a talented hard working hurler. He struggled a bit with injury over last year or two. presume he must be involved given they ade going well ?

N20

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

They won and now in munster final in Mallow in December and I would think will have real chance munster win and at very least turn up to compete like majority cork clubs done cork junior club justice by winning in munster or if beaten like Grenagh least were competitive bar of course the exception when last year castle matyr were humiliated absoultey hammered, totally hammered in munster final and conceded five goals but could been eight only for mondligo taking gas off last few minutes and going easy and yes teams can be beaten but lack want and desire to even compete in the game was imo not great when the game was even in cork venue and they had no excuse also of tired when had kerry champions then bye to the final
I think Dungourney will compete and certainly won't be any worse than last year performance which in itself be bonus
Congratulations on them today.

TTM you admonished a poster the other day for using negative language and then you come up with this ?????

thinkstoomuch1

N20 wrote: »

TTM you admonished a poster the other day for using negative language and then you come up with this ?????

I don't even know why you choose to make a point when there's nothing make point of to be fair
Big big difference between saying team were hammered and yes we're be fair and senior team with end result on face it just calling it as it is like I said glen were well beaten last week then someone posting half time team yes young minor team with sixteen year old are hammered at half time when that just my opinion was harsh in conditions were awful such both teams and charville struggle second half so no team hammered as end result proved
It's not negative language i have problems with or like saying in if valid call spade spade but at minor and harty huge huge difference as young lads and with respect no one I'm sure can say I don't have point with caste last year when we're beaten huge scores so yes they unfortunately we're hammered.


Your choice of words totally unfair on me but that your choice in regard me and poster when all i did as anyone can see was point out no team was hammered to be fair
I have good time for your posts so look your entitled your opinion but no all I said was poster said ag hammered at half time i high lighted and correctly so that was not case at half time and I felt it was harsh as like I said conditions made game tow half particularly for young lads conditions will always be tough
The game I say team was hammered isn't an opinion to be fair look at the results
They were well beaten to be fair at senior so I can't say team was just unlucky
I'm doing no disrespect to say they were hammered when the results show that
Cork were hammered by Galway and kerry at senior
No one gets joy in saying that but results is what it is to be fair now.
Castle were beaten 5-12 to fourteen point so when I say hammered and compare to dripsey Grenagh charville meelin etc and more no doubt as record shows they were worst results cork team club in junior recently so yes I get no joy in saying it as I wanted them so well as there cork team but results clearly show I have validly in my points to be fair now.

Hurleratheart

zetecescort wrote: »

Blackrock winning the u-21 handy, leading 1-20 to 0-7 after 50 min

Comfortable for Blackrock all true I heard with excellent performances from a few of younger lads John o Sullivan got man of match on echo

Head Duhallow full back hit hi a bad belt and should have got line for it o Sullivan prob youngest lad on pitch and dominating so tried to take him out

This is what I mean about to many games and lads getting hurt and no time to recovr

thinkstoomuch1

N20 wrote: »

Was Niall motherway playing today, always thought he was a talented hard working hurler. He struggled a bit with injury over last year or two. presume he must be involved given they ade going well ?

I'd agree he's fine hurler and I think he would be great addition to the cork intermediate panel

Copper_pipe

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

They won and now in munster final in Mallow in December and I would think will have real chance munster win and at very least turn up to compete like majority cork clubs done cork junior club justice by winning in munster or if beaten like Grenagh least were competitive bar of course the exception when last year castle matyr were humiliated absoultey hammered, totally hammered in munster final and conceded five goals but could been eight only for mondligo taking gas off last few minutes and going easy and yes teams can be beaten but lack want and desire to even compete in the game was imo not great when the game was even in cork venue and they had no excuse also of tired when had kerry champions then bye to the final
I think Dungourney will compete and certainly won't be any worse than last year performance which in itself be bonus
Congratulations on them today.

Was at the game myself. Im a drom man ha. We had too many wides in the first half but somehow were up a point @ HT. Dungourney had the wind in the second half but took their scores. We only managed 1 point in the second half. The first goal was a soft one, went over the keepers head from a sideline cut. The other then the keeper was sent the wrong way. Drom will feel they left it after them somewhat but credit to Dungourney they took their scores and won well.

zetecescort

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Best of luck to nemo tomorrow.

deferred coverage on TG4 tomorrow after Leinster hurling

Rebel norrie

What do people think of club championship proposals. Looks like no relegation from senior for next few years. Letting larger clubs with second team play intermediate level. That's a bit unfair on junior clubs.

It makes sense

Rebel norrie wrote: »

What do people think of club championship proposals. Looks like no relegation from senior for next few years. Letting larger clubs with second team play intermediate level. That's a bit unfair on junior clubs.

Would say killeagh kicking themselves for going down this year not sure how this will work for junior clubs who have to fight tooth and nail to get up of second teams just sail on through some would argue that this is better for Cork hurling as a whole though so we will have to see how it pans out. Well done to Dungourney today who join Newcestown in a Munster final.

Figsy32

Rebel norrie wrote: »

What do people think of club championship proposals. Looks like no relegation from senior for next few years. Letting larger clubs with second team play intermediate level. That's a bit unfair on junior clubs.

What's the idea behind no relegation?

lim4ev

N20 wrote: »

You'd wonder how they manage in Kilkenny when its really only a very large town! ( no disrespect to Kilkenny, its a beautiful - little- city)

High concentration of clubs in two schools.

I'd argue a Harty win for Castletroy or Doon would be better for Limerick hurling going forward.

Anyway it is what it is and we will see how it will pan out.

Indeed Kilkenny is only a big town but only one game in town too unlike limerick and cork where there is so many different sports pulling at the same source of young lads.in fact in limk we have the situation where up to a certain age if you are good at rugby they won,t allow you play hurling I,m being told,some neck isn't,t it?kind of a ban in reverse.

I totally agree that it,d be better if doon or castletroy could win it but coming where we,r coming from I,ll take any schools success from anywhere

Rebel norrie

Teddy Mac new man in charge of SARS. He will be happy no relegation. 😄😄😄

big_drive

Figsy32 wrote: »

What's the idea behind no relegation?

Basically to increase number of club sides in the senior championship

thinkstoomuch1

Rebel norrie wrote: »

Teddy Mac new man in charge of SARS. He will be happy no relegation. 😄😄😄

It never ceases to amaze me that manager despite poor records club get management posts again
Sars were in huge decline and if brought in good young talent could be new exciting team but teddy great really great player he's record bar bandon is very poor, Newcastle west both teams Kilworth eire og sars even ist spell cork under twenty one cork senior involved in strike and laois refused play under him he's record is poor
No surprise he left sars won county before
Teddy was great player and a hero always as players but management is a totally different ball game

A brilliant article by a journalist I praised many times here before Barry o Donovan last night in he mentioned how newton were revelation cork hurling and yet as said critsim and lack credit got by some was unfair and cork didn't realise how lucky were then

I'll never forget reading article years ago where unnamed ex players said there style was to blame for demise cork hurling and need direct style
Well sars proved and others Newtownshandrum were miles better than the rest and of course the key cork players were great great really great player not likes some club who cork players are really not producing the goods

A brilliant article yesterday in the paper imo

big_drive

Bit of an unusual question but does anyone know who was the oldest player to play in this years senior club hurling championship?

thinkstoomuch1

It makes sense wrote: »

Would say killeagh kicking themselves for going down this year not sure how this will work for junior clubs who have to fight tooth and nail to get up of second teams just sail on through some would argue that this is better for Cork hurling as a whole though so we will have to see how it pans out. Well done to Dungourney today who join Newcestown in a Munster final.

I'd agree I think it is bad for the small cork clubs
It's unfair on them

thinkstoomuch1

big_drive wrote: »

Bit of an unusual question but does anyone know who was the oldest player to play in this years senior club hurling championship?

Niall mccarthy possibly just ist guess

big_drive

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Would you think any them good cork intermediate next year

Just from the little I've seen I'd expect Shane Hegarty to be involved with Cork intermediates.
Also Niall Motherway seems good.
Ryan Denny excellent in county final repłay but he's still very young I think?