Any sympathy for an old bigot ?

Shiraz 4.99

I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

It may not be feasible for me to join a right wing fundamentalist christian group & many of my age are not internet savvy.

In many instances these people are our relations, our parents, part of an older Ireland.
Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

indigo twist

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

Sunday mass? In fact, many churches do daily services.

P_1

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

It may not be feasible for me to join a right wing fundamentalist christian group & many of my age are not internet savvy.

In many instances these people are our relations, our parents, part of an older Ireland.
Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

Sadness? No. Happiness? Yes!

Ken Shamrock

My sympathy is with the homosexuals tbh.

Sir Arthur Daley

Pour yourself a glass of vino and relax.

eeepaulo

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

The part that is being eroded is the ability to force that belief onto everybody.

FatherLen

The church, homosexuality AND abortion all bundled into one thread.... great.

PucaMama

being pro life is not the same as being homophobic :rolleyes:

kneemos

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

Sadness on their part maybe.

bear1

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

It may not be feasible for me to join a right wing fundamentalist christian group & many of my age are not internet savvy.

In many instances these people are our relations, our parents, part of an older Ireland.
Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

No, times have changed. Why should homosexuals be discriminated against? Why shouldn't they be allowed to marry?
The backward thinking has finally stopped.
Once the older generation dies then our generation and the one after us wont (possibly) have the same views as the generation of old.
I couldn't care about the church, nor about homosexuals marrying. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

bear1

FatherLen wrote: »

The church, homosexuality AND abortion all bundled into one thread.... great.

Can we stick the water charges part in here too? May as well make a day of it.

Slicemeister

FatherLen wrote: »

The church, homosexuality AND abortion all bundled into one thread.... great.

I hear you're a racist now Father!

realdanbreen

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

It may not be feasible for me to join a right wing fundamentalist christian group & many of my age are not internet savvy.

In many instances these people are our relations, our parents, part of an older Ireland.
Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

Pro church-yes
anti gay marriage-no
anti homosexyity-no
pro life- I've never met anybody(that I know of!)who's anti life.

Summer wind

My mam is 69 and her friend recently told her that her daughter had come out as a lesbian. My mam said "so what and as long as she's happy that's all that matters". So I guess all older people don't think in the same way.

tigger123

Do people who are bigoted know they're bigoted? I thought they thought they were just right.

Sunnyisland

bear1 wrote: »

Can we stick the water charges part in here too? May as well make a day of it.

And bit about the dole and shinners and feck it throw the Israelies in two, close all other threads :-)

cloud493

Buy 1, get 3 free?

wazky

I am young but I would hold similar views to yourself.

I think homosexuality is an unnatural thing and is actually harmful to society.

Timberrrrrrrr

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

It may not be feasible for me to join a right wing fundamentalist christian group & many of my age are not internet savvy.

In many instances these people are our relations, our parents, part of an older Ireland.
Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

The sooner these die off the better the world will be

Banjo String

Anyone else read the thread title, and assume it was about the recently deceased Ian Paisley?

realdanbreen

wazky wrote: »

I am young but I would hold similar views to yourself.

I think homosexuality is an unnatural thing and is actually harmful to society.

What age are you?

cletus van damme

tigger123 wrote: »

Do people who are bigoted know they're bigoted? I thought they thought they were just right.

nah i'm fully aware I am
don't I have the PC mob telling me daily of my failings :pac:

RobbingBandit

In a pub OP, after a ten drink minimum the golden rule of drunk talk trumps any laws of the land, sweet beautiful drunk talk. Only in the sanctum of the pub though, once you go onto the street you're fcuked.

Manach

I'd say thanks for the sympathy, but the cultures wars are far from over. In spite of seeing the erosion of traditional Western values and their slide into oblivion into a nihilistic value free mindet beyond toleration for all except for all that disagree with the PC world view, the traditional values and morals will endure.

bear1

wazky wrote: »

I am young but I would hold similar views to yourself.

I think homosexuality is an unnatural thing and is actually harmful to society.

Can you explain, properly, why homosexuality is harmful to society?

Timberrrrrrrr

wazky wrote: »

I am young but I would hold similar views to yourself.

I think homosexuality is an unnatural thing and is actually harmful to society.

Watching porn, Drinking alcohol and drugs are more harmful to society than homosexuality and i guarantee that you have done at least 2 of those things.

kneemos

Manach wrote: »

I'd say thanks for the sympathy, but the cultures wars are far from over. In spite of seeing the erosion of traditional Western values and their slide into oblivion into a nihilistic value free mindet beyond toleration for all except for all that disagree with the PC world view, the traditional values and morals will endure.

We have values of tolerance and acceptance which in my view is better than bigotry and blindly believing what you're told.

bear1

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Watching porn, Drinking alcohol and drugs are more harmful to society than homosexuality and i guarantee that you have done at least 2 of those things.

Ah now, leave the porn out of it!

wazky

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Watching porn, Drinking alcohol and drugs are more harmful to society than homosexuality and i guarantee that you have done at least 2 of those things.

You can guarantee nothing, how is watching porn harmful to society?

bear1

wazky wrote: »

You can guarantee nothing, how is watching porn harmful to society?

Can you first answer why homosexuality is harmful to society?

Fat Christy

wazky wrote: »

You can guarantee nothing, how is watching porn harmful to society?

It is harmful to women! It gives men the idea that women are merely objects to be used and discarded.

Ken Shamrock

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Watching porn, Drinking alcohol and drugs are more harmful to society than homosexuality and i guarantee that you have done at least 2 of those things.

Get a grip

Slicemeister

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

Get a grip

Don't forget to lube up first.

Shiraz 4.99

bear1 wrote: »

Ah now, leave the porn out of it!

He's trying to take away our porn, make him stop

cletus van damme

kneemos wrote: »

We have values of tolerance and acceptance which in my view is better than bigotry and blindly believing what you're told.

but we don't have those values at all.

we have an illusion of those values once a person fully subscribes to the liberal agenda.
Anybody steps up and says "I don't agree" is shot down with accusations of what ever the offence-de jour is.

Ken Shamrock

Fat Christy wrote: »

It is harmful to women! It gives men the idea that women are merely objects to be used and discarded.

Watever men get that idea from watching porn are uneducated idiots, anything can influence anyone in a certain way but it depends on the person. Porn does not promote this idea, certain parts of the industry or rather "wanna be in the industry" homemade videos or inhumane sh1t is sickening and that sh1t can corrupt some people but Porn as a whole is most definitively not harmful to society.

GerB40

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

It may not be feasible for me to join a right wing fundamentalist christian group & many of my age are not internet savvy.

In many instances these people are our relations, our parents, part of an older Ireland.
Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

It's sad to see elderly people we know and love die, nobody will argue that.

But to see the disgusting, bigoted, ignorant beliefs that were forced upon them makes me fúckin ecstatic. The Catholic Church in Ireland is crumbling along with the poison it's infected the country with. This is marvellous...

BarryD

Age is a funny thing - it's often said that as you get older, you get more conservative and less tolerant etc. Likewise young people can be very extreme in their views. What happens in the middle?

bear1

I can't believe posters are hung up over one person saying watching porn can be harmful to society, but one poster said being gay is harmful to society and no seems to have given a ****e about it.
Amazing really.

cloud493

People do seem to care, they're just waiting for the user to respond.

Generic Dreadhead

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

I'd say the Nazis are finding this to be a problem too

bear1

cloud493 wrote: »

People do seem to care, they're just waiting for the user to respond.

Asked the poster twice now to answer it and hasn't bothered. Pity.
Answered about the porno though so I guess it touched a "nerve" :pac:

Ken Shamrock

bear1 wrote: »

I can't believe posters are hung up over one person saying watching porn can be harmful to society, but one poster said being gay is harmful to society and no seems to have given a ****e about it.
Amazing really.

Jaysus, you're in AH we are not REAL people we don't generally discuss important things in a mature manner. Everyone has been through the gay thing a million times, some people think it's unnatural it's not how you pro create etc some people think it's perfectly fine you can be who you want to be etc, so why not let the old bigots who are against homosexuality be themselves without going ape sh1t at them for having different views, unless of course they project the anti-homo thing into physical or mental abuse, then we can kill them :cool:

minotour

bear1 wrote: »

I can't believe posters are hung up over one person saying watching porn can be harmful to society, but one poster said being gay is harmful to society and no seems to have given a ****e about it.
Amazing really.

Make the discussion about watching gay porn then, everybody's happy.............or not happy, whatever the case may be.

Stoopid discussion anwyay, who care's what others think about anything? Live yer life by your own rules.

marienbad

what is the generally accepted definition on After Hours of 'older people'' ?

cloud493

Anyone over the age of 30.

Sunnyisland

cloud493 wrote: »

Anyone over the age of 30.

:-(

cloud493

Get back to the armchair grandad :pac:

porsche959

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

It may not be feasible for me to join a right wing fundamentalist christian group & many of my age are not internet savvy.

In many instances these people are our relations, our parents, part of an older Ireland.
Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

Just to say that opposition to gay marriage is by no means a fringe point of view.

In the UK and elsewhere there is huge resentment at how it is being forced on society by what some see as a metropolitan clique. Indeed some gay people are even opposed to it. I think a majority of Conservative MP's voted against, were even a few Labour rebels.

RobbingBandit

32 but have the mental age of a 12 year old. Like most 32 year olds, I think...

bear1

Bob.Carcass wrote: »

Jaysus, you're in AH we are not REAL people we don't generally discuss important things in a mature manner. Everyone has been through the gay thing a million times, some people think it's unnatural it's not how you pro create etc some people think it's perfectly fine you can be who you want to be etc, so why not let the old bigots who are against homosexuality be themselves without going ape sh1t at them for having different views, unless of course they project the anti-homo thing into physical or mental abuse, then we can kill them :cool:

Agreed

minotour wrote: »

Make the discussion about watching gay porn then, everybody's happy.............or not happy, whatever the case may be.

Stoopid discussion anwyay, who care's what others think about anything? Live yer life by your own rules.

I've no problem with porn regardless of the sexual orientation of it. I wont watch it unless it's the straight one but that's just me