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Any sympathy for an old bigot ?

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  • 09-10-2014 12:17pm
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    Shiraz 4.99
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    I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

    It may not be feasible for me to join a right wing fundamentalist christian group & many of my age are not internet savvy.

    In many instances these people are our relations, our parents, part of an older Ireland.
    Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?


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    indigo twist
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    Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »
    I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

    Sunday mass? In fact, many churches do daily services.


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    P_1
    Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »
    I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

    It may not be feasible for me to join a right wing fundamentalist christian group & many of my age are not internet savvy.

    In many instances these people are our relations, our parents, part of an older Ireland.
    Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

    Sadness? No. Happiness? Yes!


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    Ken Shamrock
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    My sympathy is with the homosexuals tbh.


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    Sir Arthur Daley
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    Pour yourself a glass of vino and relax.


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    eeepaulo
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    Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »
    Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

    The part that is being eroded is the ability to force that belief onto everybody.


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    FatherLen
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    The church, homosexuality AND abortion all bundled into one thread.... great.


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    PucaMama
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    being pro life is not the same as being homophobic :rolleyes:


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    kneemos
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    Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »
    Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

    Sadness on their part maybe.


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    bear1
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    Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »
    I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

    It may not be feasible for me to join a right wing fundamentalist christian group & many of my age are not internet savvy.

    In many instances these people are our relations, our parents, part of an older Ireland.
    Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

    No, times have changed. Why should homosexuals be discriminated against? Why shouldn't they be allowed to marry?
    The backward thinking has finally stopped.
    Once the older generation dies then our generation and the one after us wont (possibly) have the same views as the generation of old.
    I couldn't care about the church, nor about homosexuals marrying. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.


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    bear1
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    FatherLen wrote: »
    The church, homosexuality AND abortion all bundled into one thread.... great.

    Can we stick the water charges part in here too? May as well make a day of it.


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    Slicemeister
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    FatherLen wrote: »
    The church, homosexuality AND abortion all bundled into one thread.... great.

    I hear you're a racist now Father!


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    realdanbreen
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    Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »
    I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

    It may not be feasible for me to join a right wing fundamentalist christian group & many of my age are not internet savvy.

    In many instances these people are our relations, our parents, part of an older Ireland.
    Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

    Pro church-yes
    anti gay marriage-no
    anti homosexyity-no
    pro life- I've never met anybody(that I know of!)who's anti life.


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    Summer wind
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    My mam is 69 and her friend recently told her that her daughter had come out as a lesbian. My mam said "so what and as long as she's happy that's all that matters". So I guess all older people don't think in the same way.


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    tigger123
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    Do people who are bigoted know they're bigoted? I thought they thought they were just right.


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    Sunnyisland
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    bear1 wrote: »
    Can we stick the water charges part in here too? May as well make a day of it.

    And bit about the dole and shinners and feck it throw the Israelies in two, close all other threads :-)


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    cloud493
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    Buy 1, get 3 free?


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    wazky
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    I am young but I would hold similar views to yourself.

    I think homosexuality is an unnatural thing and is actually harmful to society.


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    Timberrrrrrrr
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    Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »
    I'm not saying that's a bad thing but say I was pro church, anti gay marriage, anti homosexuality, pro life there are fewer & fewer places where I can feel safe expressing my views.

    It may not be feasible for me to join a right wing fundamentalist christian group & many of my age are not internet savvy.

    In many instances these people are our relations, our parents, part of an older Ireland.
    Is there a sadness that their ways & beliefs have been completely eroded ?

    The sooner these die off the better the world will be


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    Banjo String
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    Anyone else read the thread title, and assume it was about the recently deceased Ian Paisley?


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    realdanbreen
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    wazky wrote: »
    I am young but I would hold similar views to yourself.

    I think homosexuality is an unnatural thing and is actually harmful to society.

    What age are you?


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    cletus van damme
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    tigger123 wrote: »
    Do people who are bigoted know they're bigoted? I thought they thought they were just right.

    nah i'm fully aware I am
    don't I have the PC mob telling me daily of my failings :pac:


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    RobbingBandit
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    In a pub OP, after a ten drink minimum the golden rule of drunk talk trumps any laws of the land, sweet beautiful drunk talk. Only in the sanctum of the pub though, once you go onto the street you're fcuked. :)


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    Manach
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    I'd say thanks for the sympathy, but the cultures wars are far from over. In spite of seeing the erosion of traditional Western values and their slide into oblivion into a nihilistic value free mindet beyond toleration for all except for all that disagree with the PC world view, the traditional values and morals will endure.


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    bear1
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    wazky wrote: »
    I am young but I would hold similar views to yourself.

    I think homosexuality is an unnatural thing and is actually harmful to society.

    Can you explain, properly, why homosexuality is harmful to society?


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    Timberrrrrrrr
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    wazky wrote: »
    I am young but I would hold similar views to yourself.

    I think homosexuality is an unnatural thing and is actually harmful to society.

    Watching porn, Drinking alcohol and drugs are more harmful to society than homosexuality and i guarantee that you have done at least 2 of those things.


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    kneemos
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    Manach wrote: »
    I'd say thanks for the sympathy, but the cultures wars are far from over. In spite of seeing the erosion of traditional Western values and their slide into oblivion into a nihilistic value free mindet beyond toleration for all except for all that disagree with the PC world view, the traditional values and morals will endure.

    We have values of tolerance and acceptance which in my view is better than bigotry and blindly believing what you're told.


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    bear1
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Watching porn, Drinking alcohol and drugs are more harmful to society than homosexuality and i guarantee that you have done at least 2 of those things.

    Ah now, leave the porn out of it!


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    wazky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Watching porn, Drinking alcohol and drugs are more harmful to society than homosexuality and i guarantee that you have done at least 2 of those things.

    You can guarantee nothing, how is watching porn harmful to society?


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    bear1
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    wazky wrote: »
    You can guarantee nothing, how is watching porn harmful to society?

    Can you first answer why homosexuality is harmful to society?


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    Fat Christy
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    wazky wrote: »
    You can guarantee nothing, how is watching porn harmful to society?

    It is harmful to women! It gives men the idea that women are merely objects to be used and discarded.


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