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Alive! Newspaper.

  • 30-09-2014 7:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭


    Every month with out fail, one gets forced through the letter box, regardless of the sign I have up to stop unsolicited spam like this.

    Normally it is thrown in the recycle pile or on to the coal bucket but for the first time in months I decided to read it, for a laugh.
    To be honest I ended up getting rather angry, I am sure I will learn to laugh at bollocks like this like most other people do but I can't right now.
    I should laugh, but when I was younger my parents brought home copies of it, and I ended up reading as a confused gay early teen that I was "disgusting" and "bound for hell" and such rubbish which really did not help me till I got a lot older and could shake it off.

    Their website - http://www.alive.ie/ - has some articles but not most of them.

    From what I hear, the church says they try and distance themselves from this group who write it, but in that case, why does every church in my city appear to supply copies of this crap?
    Should they really not allow them to be distributed from their churches in that case?
    I know the getting it in the letter box as spam is different.

    I know its a self published sort of paper and it is based on some peoples view points, but is this not ..... I don't know, illegal in some way?

    Most people do laugh or ignore it, but is their not a way to get rid of it, or at least stop receiving it in the post?

    I have attached some of the most recent gems of inside articles as the website does not give some of them.
    Really disgusting hatred filled paper so it is.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    A dangerous paper for followers of a dangerous cult. Both need to be outlawed and the death penalty reinstated for animals like sean brady


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Theses conservative religious types will be obliterated soon enough OP. The country is slowly but surely moving on, resigning those proponents of the past to an appropriate fate for the actions they continue to admonish, actions which caused untold suffering for many tens of thousands, most of whom have gone without any form of justice.

    The repeal of the 8th Amendment will come soon enough, Ruairi Quinn left - unfortunately - before beginning to secularise our schools, and the auld political codgers who maintained the status quo whatever the administration are dying out.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Moved from After Hours. This is more suited here OP.

    Please read Atheism & Agnosticism charter before posting.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Mod:
    A dangerous paper for followers of a dangerous cult. Both need to be outlawed and the death penalty reinstated for animals like sean brady
    OK, your post's been moved from AH, so their rules apply.

    Here in A+A, though, you'll want to up your style before you post here again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    If you have a "No Junk Mail" or similar sign on your letterbox then they are breaking the law putting it in. After I put one up I still got this disgusting rag a couple of times. I mailed them at the address on their website and told them in no uncertain terms that if I received another one in my letterbox I would file charges for trespass and report them to the DPC for ignoring my instructions. I know full well that the DPC has no powers in this area but McKevitt obviously didn't as I haven't got another one since.

    As for some of their articles I do believe that some of them border on hate speech but it would require someone to make a complaint for anything to happen. tbh making such a complaint would give this dick a platform to defend his views and I wouldn't be bothered giving him any credence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    You actually need a sign stating "addressed mail only" as "junk mail" isn't considered junk by those delivering the mail. I put up one and it cut out 99% of the junk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    lazygal wrote: »
    You actually need a sign stating "addressed mail only" as "junk mail" isn't considered junk by those delivering the mail. I put up one and it cut out 99% of the junk.

    How do you get your Dominos vouchers then?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    How do you get your Dominos vouchers then?
    Domino's wouldn't be the first choice of many atheists:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Monaghan
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ave_Maria,_Florida

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    robindch wrote: »

    YOU CAN TAKE YOUR AD HOMINEMS ELSEWHERE, SIR!

    Dominos is the most delicious of the pizzas.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Dominos is the most delicious of the pizzas.
    Dominos put -- I find the words hard to type -- pineapple on pizza dough:

    http://www.dominos.ie/menu/

    This is the work of the devil.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    robindch wrote: »
    Dominos put -- I find the words hard to type -- pineapple on pizza dough:

    http://www.dominos.ie/menu/

    This is the work of the devil.

    That is just a corrupt few giving the rest a bad name. My father ate Dominos and his father before him. My son will eat Dominos and his son after him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,038 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    At least Pizza Hut doesn't have nutjob owner(s). :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    I half expected the transgender article (does that even count as a full article in a paper? It's 3 short paragraphs) to be misrepresenting some scientific study or similar, and I was gonna come along as say "well, actually..." and give details on why the whole thing was wrong and, well, they couldn't even do that. Just blah blah blah, mutilation. Nothing to even counter here. I'm disappointed, Alive! really need to try harder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Caught them one evening posting it through my letterbox asked them never to again and so far so good!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭MsBubbles


    Like previous posters Alive was put through my letterbox so I sent a very polite email asking them to refrain from posting their paper to my home. It was ignored.
    So one day I saw the man posting the papers and I stopped and said again politely I would like if I didn't receive your paper. He was so rude . He walked saying I would give the likes of you the steam off my pee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    Alive! Newspaper.

    Newspaper is a very kind term for what's essentially a propaganda pamphlet or brochure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    MsBubbles wrote: »
    Like previous posters Alive was put through my letterbox so I sent a very polite email asking them to refrain from posting their paper to my home. It was ignored.
    So one day I saw the man posting the papers and I stopped and said again politely I would like if I didn't receive your paper. He was so rude . He walked saying I would give the likes of you the steam off my pee.

    I used to receive Alive through my letterbox until I had a nice chat with the old man who delivered it. We talked cordially about old cars and for some strange reason I never received another copy. Which is a shame, because I sincerely liked perusing the brochure for laughs.

    On a side note, I feel let down by Jehovah's Witnesses. I was told that it was hard to get rid of them from the door. Au contraire. The old woman kept reversing away as I smiled whilst talking about the decline in religiosity amongst young people. I think she was trying to 'protect' the ears of the young girl who was accompanying her, door-to-door.

    They probably wanted to find someone who was down, feeling low. They always try to get you while you're down. Praying on the weak. They're no better than those who force their way into the homes of the elderly.

    Maybe I can look forward to a visit from some mormons. Won't that be fun. I can ask them about magic underpants, the conman Joseph Smith and how 'the book of mormon' is plagiarised from The Travels of Marco Polo, the voyage of Christopher Columbus to the New World as recorded by his son, histories of the Spanish conquest of Mexico, and travel journals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,314 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Ever read the Irish Catholic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    lazygal wrote: »
    You actually need a sign stating "addressed mail only" as "junk mail" isn't considered junk by those delivering the mail. I put up one and it cut out 99% of the junk.

    Have you read the prison forum. All spammers think they are providing valuable information.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,038 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    I read it, hoping that one of the anti-PC/heartless wanker brigade has ended up there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,533 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    This is supposedly a christian publication - shouldn't discussion on it take place in the christianity forum?

























    (only half joking. And yes I do know what would happen...)

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    A dangerous paper for followers of a dangerous cult. Both need to be outlawed and the death penalty reinstated for animals like sean brady

    Serious LOL at this silly comment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Alive is a low-grade freesheet with an agenda. It's easy to ignore if you wish. I read it, avoiding the anti-EU, climate-skeptic stuff. There are plenty of much better catholic newspapers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Alive is a low-grade freesheet with an agenda. It's easy to ignore if you wish. I read it, avoiding the anti-EU, climate-skeptic stuff. There are plenty of much better catholic newspapers.

    Tabernacle Weekly?
    Priest's Own?
    "Genuflect!"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    krudler wrote: »
    Tabernacle Weekly?
    Priest's Own?
    "Genuflect!"

    Genuflect! Does have great photos tho:-

    "At home with Dr Brady in his Palace as he settles into retirement"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    krudler wrote: »
    Tabernacle Weekly?
    Priest's Own?
    "Genuflect!"
    I hear the formerly popular Priest's Own has fallen on hard times, being eclipsed by competition from newer media.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    krudler wrote: »
    Tabernacle Weekly?
    Priest's Own?
    "Genuflect!"

    'Moved On'
    'Trust Fund Monthly'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭legspin


    Nodin wrote: »
    'Moved On'
    'Trust Fund Monthly'
    'Readers Altar Boys'
    'What Thurible'
    'Jane's Crucifixes Quarterly'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    krudler wrote: »
    Tabernacle Weekly?
    Priest's Own?
    "Genuflect!"

    There is, actually and genuinely, a religious magazine called "TRUTH!", I saw it in the reading room when I briefly worked for nuns. Had I balls I would have laughed them off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,730 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    legspin wrote: »
    'Readers Altar Boys'
    'What Thurible'
    'Jane's Crucifixes Quarterly'

    "The Son"
    "Daily Myrrh"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Pews of the World (now discontinued)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    The Observant
    The Sunday Sheeple
    Dependent on Sunday
    The Star of Bethlehem


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    a rival to Genuflect!, Halo! Magazine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    YOU CAN TAKE YOUR AD HOMINEMS ELSEWHERE, SIR!

    Dominos is the most delicious of the pizzas.

    Obviously, you've never eaten from Uncle Pete's in Cork sir or madam. If you had you'd puke your Dominos pizzas right back up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    efb wrote: »
    Pews of the World (now discontinued)

    Ah, now. They renamed it the Sunday Son and brought it back out on the quiet a few months later (after sacking all their Sunday staff, and forcing their weekday workers to work the extra day graits).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,533 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Guardian Angel

    'GOODBYE!' Magazine (incorporating 'Did Ye Hear Who's Dead?')

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 more than S.A.D.


    The Irish Tabernacle

    (a tabernacle is a kind of press, right?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Ah, now. They renamed it the Sunday Son and brought it back out on the quiet a few months later (after sacking all their Sunday staff, and forcing their weekday workers to work the extra day graits).

    Work on a Sunday???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    efb wrote: »
    Work on a Sunday???

    They're not Charedim. They don't keep to the Law.

    It's a schande vor dem Goyim, I know, but what are you going to do? Kids these days, they've no respect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    krudler wrote: »
    Tabernacle Weekly?
    Priest's Own?
    "Genuflect!"

    No. Actual catholic newspapers such As The Catholic Herald.

    It's important, I'm sure you'll all agree to read outside of one's comfort zone. To broaden one's horizons.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    No. Actual catholic newspapers such As The Catholic Herald.

    It's important, I'm sure you'll all agree to read outside of one's comfort zone. To broaden one's horizons.

    I read Viz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,038 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Yeah, I think I'd rather not read deflective whataboutery about clerical abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    YOU CAN TAKE YOUR AD HOMINEMS ELSEWHERE, SIR!

    Dominos is the most delicious of the pizzas.

    I could really go for a dominus vobiscum....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    I regarded delivery of Alive! as my community service. I was taking it and protecting some poor vulnerable soul from its contents. It gave me a laugh before contributing to the household heat. Haven't had a copy in ages though, and I could do with it now that the cold weather is back. How can I restart delivery?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,533 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Maybe you can sign up online for a copy?

    Or better still, 1000 :pac:

    In Cavan there was a great fire / Judge McCarthy was sent to inquire / It would be a shame / If the nuns were to blame / So it had to be caused by a wire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    Came across the latest offering of this "newspaper" recently. It is alternately creepy and hilarious. The major theme running through the whole rag is that catholicism and catholics are being persecuted, and that the real enemy for them is secularism. (We're obviously getting to them).

    Some of the salient points for anyone who can't bring themselves to read it..

    - According to the editor "it's great to be a Catholic". Why? you may ask. Well, "Catholics belong to the one true Church", and "they have the certain hope of eternal life and happiness in heaven."

    - Apparently, contraception is one of the main reasons for the growth of "the gay agenda". Because of the Pill, people now engage in DSS - deliberately sterile sex - and "once DSS is accepted between a man and a woman, how can it be rejected between two people of the same sex?......or between a brother and a sister?"

    - Moanin' Mullen has a column this month. It is, predictably, about Christians being persecuted. To quote his Ronanness, "the basic facts are that most of the oppressed people in our world are Christian". He really said that, "most" are Christian.

    - Apparently, Ireland has a state religion, and the religion is Secularism. There is no real attempt to support the idea that secularism is a "religion", it is simply stated. "Fundamentally," Alive tells us, "secularism is a religion of despair." Also, we learn that "Secularism, in fact, is a Christian heresy. ....it works, only because of the remaining traces of Catholicism it still contains." ????????????

    This is another theme, of course. The Modern World is in despair, we are all on The Wrong Path. Naturally The Church has the answer.

    It is like reading a report from a parallel universe. No mention of sex abuse, mother and baby homes, Magdalen launderies, or the fact that the church still controls 95% of primary schools. Horrifying and hilarious and kind of fascinating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Cantremember


    robindch wrote: »
    Mod:OK, your post's been moved from AH, so their rules apply.

    Here in A+A, though, you'll want to up your style before you post here again.

    A revealing quotation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Cantremember


    The publications of various religions make good pet bedding. /end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,038 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    That certainly does remind me of that uber-Catholic troll with the mis-spelt version of a Roman writer's name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    That certainly does remind me of that uber-Catholic troll with the mis-spelt version of a Roman writer's name.

    Sorry. You'll need to be more specific...? :D


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