Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread V

LostArt

Have the Quins away tickets gone on sale yet?

Morf

.ak wrote: »

So basically first person to PM me gets a cushty Anglesea seat for the Edinburgh game for free. First come first serve.

What exactly have you been doing while watching Leinster games? :eek:

Clearlier

awec wrote: »

There is a problem with him starting at 13. There is no longevity in D'Arcy, someone has to make that jersey their own and to do that they need games.

Ideally we'd have had someone with decent experience at 13 to follow BOD but we have nobody really. There is no point replacing one old hand with another old hand which will just compound the problem.

Of course there's a problem for Leinster and Ireland with D'Arcy starting at 13 but the problem isn't with D'Arcy. Sorry if that wasn't clear from my post.

Eoin O'Malley was the anointed heir. We're missing him badly IMO. For Leinster Te'o is obviously the great white hope. A little like Henshaw for Ireland he has the raw physical ability. Whether they has the nous, the drive and the ambition is another question.

molloyjh

So from both squad updates (Leinster & Ireland) it looks like Ross and Jenno are definitely out this weekend. Dave, Ferg and Jordi are back training and might be available and Rob might return to training this week too. So while we might be a little threadbare tomorrow we should have something like the following for the Treviso game:

01. E Byrne
02. Dundon
03. Bent
04. McCarthy
05. Douglas
06. Locky
07. Jenno
08. Murphy

09. McGrath
10. Gopperth
11. Fitzy
12. Reid
13. Te'o
14. McFadden
15. Kirchner

16. B Byrne
17. Dooley
18. Furlong
19. Denton
20. Conan/Ryan
21. Boss
22. Crosbie
23. D Kearney

That would be a damn fine starting XV at the very least.

stephen_n

Apart from the front row that would be a fairly strong team.

Front row isn't awful either. Dundon isn't going to win any international awards, but he's a solid hooker. Good around the park and lineouts are fine.

Bent has done fine at TH, and I'm eager enough to let the two Byrnes get more senior gametime too.

Considering that McGrath & Healy, Ross & Moore and also Cronin & Strauss are all likely to be away during the 6N, I think that's a front row we might see several times this year.

Tox56

molloyjh wrote: »

So from both squad updates (Leinster & Ireland) it looks like Ross and Jenno are definitely out this weekend. Dave, Ferg and Jordi are back training and might be available and Rob might return to training this week too. So while we might be a little threadbare tomorrow we should have something like the following for the Treviso game:

01. E Byrne
02. Dundon
03. Bent
04. McCarthy
05. Douglas
06. Locky
07. Jenno
08. Murphy

09. McGrath
10. Gopperth
11. Fitzy
12. Reid
13. Te'o
14. McFadden
15. Kirchner

16. B Byrne
17. Dooley
18. Furlong
19. Denton
20. Conan/Ryan
21. Boss
22. Crosbie
23. D Kearney

That would be a damn fine starting XV at the very least.

I think Furlong starting at 3 with Bent at LH is far more likely than Byrne at LH and Bent at TH, and that's what the bib theory suggested for the Edinburgh game anyway

molloyjh

Tox56 wrote: »

I think Furlong starting at 3 with Bent at LH is far more likely than Byrne at LH and Bent at TH, and that's what the bib theory suggested for the Edinburgh game anyway

Sounds good to me. Bent will probably go over to TH then at around 60/70 mins if that's the case.

ssaye2

LEINSTER:

15. Zane Kirchner
14. Darragh Fanning
13. Ben Te'o
12. Noel Reid
11. Luke Fitzgerald
10. Jimmy Gopperth
9. Luke McGrath
1. Michael Bent
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. Tom Denton
5. Kane Douglas
6. Kevin McLaughlin CAPTAIN
7. Dominic Ryan
8. Jack Conan

16. Bryan Byrne
17. Ed Byrne
18. Peter Dooley
19. Ben Marshall
20. Dan Leavy
21. Isaac Boss
22. Steve Crosbie
23. Mick McGrath

Referee: Nigel Owens (WRU, 115th competition game)
Assistant Referees: David Wilkinson, Stuart Douglas (both IRFU)
Citing Commissioner: Eugene Ryan (IRFU)
TMO: Kevin Beggs (IRFU)

Brian Byrne must have totally leapfrogged Dundon at this stage.

That's a good team. McLaughlin to be our MOD?

ssaye2

http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/news/12767#.VFIon2dA2VE

Mahatma Geansai

I didn't realise that players named in the original squad would be released back to their clubs.

molloyjh

Squad named:

01. Bent
02. Strauss
03. Furlong
04. Denton
05. Douglas
06. Locky
07. Ryan
08. Conan

09. L McGrath
10. Gopperth
11. Fitz
12. Reid
13. Te'o
14. Fanning
15. Kirchner

16. B Byrne
17. E Byrne
18. Dooley
19. Marshall
20. Leavy
21. Boss
22. Crosbie
23. M McGrath

LostArt

Lovely team

Tox56

ssaye2 wrote: »

LEINSTER:

15. Zane Kirchner
14. Darragh Fanning
13. Ben Te'o
12. Noel Reid
11. Luke Fitzgerald
10. Jimmy Gopperth
9. Luke McGrath
1. Michael Bent
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. Tom Denton
5. Kane Douglas
6. Kevin McLaughlin CAPTAIN
7. Dominic Ryan
8. Jack Conan

16. Bryan Byrne
17. Ed Byrne
18. Peter Dooley
19. Ben Marshall
20. Dan Leavy
21. Isaac Boss
22. Steve Crosbie
23. Mick McGrath

Referee: Nigel Owens (WRU, 115th competition game)
Assistant Referees: David Wilkinson, Stuart Douglas (both IRFU)
Citing Commissioner: Eugene Ryan (IRFU)
TMO: Kevin Beggs (IRFU)

Fascinating team, great to see the two byrne's there, and Te'o, Leavy and Dooley in a Leinster squad for the first time. Also good to see McGrath and Conan start, these are the games they need to be playing

I would have liked to see SCM start as bib theory suggested but I guess fanning brings some continuity in the backline

Neil3030

Vange!

Justice for Luke McGrath!

Nige!

former legend

Great team considering all the absentees, especially that backline. Hopefully we can rack up a score and get even more of the nippers on to the pitch in the second half.

Big opportunity for Luke McGrath.

molloyjh

Really happy with the tight five and the back line. Both are as good, if not better, than we could have hoped for. But am I the only one a little concerned about our back row? Locky doesn't have much rugby under his belt lately and Ryan hasn't been as effective as he could be. The bench is very green, but good to see these guys get a run out.

Delighted for McGrath getting his first start under MOC.

thomond2006

Shame T'eo won't get the ball since McGrath can't pass.

ssaye2

molloyjh wrote: »

Really happy with the tight five and the back line. Both are as good, if not better, than we could have hoped for. But am I the only one a little concerned about our back row? Locky doesn't have much rugby under his belt lately and Ryan hasn't been as effective as he could be. The bench is very green, but good to see these guys get a run out.

Delighted for McGrath getting his first start under MOC.

Not really we are down a club side and still putting out a fair few good combos. We dont have much better at the moment as backup so delighted with that.

Especially Luke getting more gametime.

ssaye2

Edinburgh named their team in pic form, its too small for my eyes even with zoom. :pac: Anyone have text version


Ha complaints about it

https://twitter.com/EdinburghRugby/status/527794355428659200

former legend

thomond2006 wrote: »

Shame T'eo won't get the ball since McGrath can't pass.

Nah, he'll get loads of ball. When McGrath aims for Gopperth five yards away, it will end up with Te'o in the outside centre channel.

.ak

Would've liked to see Mick McGrath getting a start but other than that it's all good. Week to soon for ferg, Jennings etc?

molloyjh

It's next to impossible to see the Edinburgh line up on their Twitter page. From what I can tell we're looking at:

01. Allan Dell
02. James Hilterbrand
03. Willem Nel
04. Magnus Bradbury
05. Ben Toolis
06. Jack Turley
07. Tomas Leonardi
08. David Denton

09. Sam Hidalgo-Clyne
10. Tom Heathcote
11. Tim Visser
12. Andries Strauss
13. Joaquin Dominguez
14. Dougie Fife
15. Nick McLennan

16. Jake Kerr
17. Rory Sutherland
18. John Andress
19. Jamie Ritchie
20. George Turner
21. Sean Kennedy
22. Greig Tonks
23. Jack Cuthbert

ssaye2

Edinburgh Rugby team v Leinster, Friday 31 October, RDS Dublin, kick-off 7.35pm
15 Nick McLENNAN
14 Dougie FIFE
13 Joaquin DOMINGUEZ
12 Andries STRAUSS (Captain)
11 Tim VISSER
10 Tom HEATHCOTE
9 Sam HIDALGO-CLYNE

1 Allan DELL
2 James HILTERBRAND
3 Willem NEL
4 Ben TOOLIS
5 Jack TURLEY
6 Magnus BRADBURY
7 Tomas LEONARDI
8 David DENTON

Substitutes
16 Jake KERR
17 Rory SUTHERLAND
18 John ANDRESS
19 Jamie RITCHIE
20 George TURNER
21 Sean KENNEDY
22 Greig TONKS
23 Jack CUTHBERT

errlloyd

Return of Dave Denton is huge for them and a good test for Conan.

colster

ssaye2 wrote: »

Edinburgh Rugby team v Leinster, Friday 31 October, RDS Dublin, kick-off 7.35pm
15 Nick McLENNAN
14 Dougie FIFE
13 Joaquin DOMINGUEZ
12 Andries STRAUSS (Captain)
11 Tim VISSER
10 Tom HEATHCOTE
9 Sam HIDALGO-CLYNE

1 Allan DELL
2 James HILTERBRAND
3 Willem NEL
4 Ben TOOLIS
5 Jack TURLEY
6 Magnus BRADBURY
7 Tomas LEONARDI
8 David DENTON

Substitutes
16 Jake KERR
17 Rory SUTHERLAND
18 John ANDRESS
19 Jamie RITCHIE
20 George TURNER
21 Sean KENNEDY
22 Greig TONKS
23 Jack CUTHBERT

The 2 Stauss brothers (Richardt and Andries) playing.

Rigor Mortis

Very exciting back line there. That's a strong enough Edinburgh line up. Should make for an interesting game.

.ak

.ak wrote: »

Would've liked to see Mick McGrath getting a start but other than that it's all good. Week to soon for ferg, Jennings etc?

Was thinking that but then a good bit of inexperience starting so you either drop Fanning (who could probably do with a rest) or Fitz who really needs game time.

If you drop Fanning for McGrath we are a bit more vulnerable as T'eo, Luke McGrath, Fitzy and Reid have very little game time between them. that said, I'd say if we are going well McGrath will come on early enough for Fanning.

CatFromHue

ssaye2 wrote: »

Edinburgh named their team in pic form, its too small for my eyes even with zoom. :pac: Anyone have text version


Ha complaints about it

https://twitter.com/EdinburghRugby/status/527794355428659200

I see Edinburgh have gone for the auld 4 3 2 2 2 1 formation this week.