TUF 20 - Pettis, Melendez, Aisling Daly **SPOILERS** **See Mod Note OP**

Roar

Spoilers from this post on. If you haven't watched the episode don't read the thread.

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A decent enough first episode. Was surprised to see Aisling Daly picked last despite being the fifth seed. Think the seeding thing is a great idea, the tournament structure will provide a lot of tension and excitement as the season progresses.

Also, after murdering the pronounciation of "Cathal" on the last season, it was funny to see Dana struggle with "Aisling"

Should be a decent season

MOD NOTE: Read post #21 before posting

adamski8

Is it repeated anywhere?

Paul_Mc1988

I too was shocked to see her picked last but from watching all her fights ever since i first seen her fight on sky sport i have no doubt in my mind she will do the business.

On a funny note that Scottish girl seems a bit off the head talking about carrots, the yanks must think were mad over this side of the pond first Paddy houlihan talking about tea and now her about carrots.

That_Guy

Really enjoyed that episode. Love the structure of it. Ranking system is great and having everyone know who's fighting who could make for some interesting viewing as the season progresses.

Good first fight too. Already better than TUF 19. :pac:

Paul_Mc1988

That_Guy wrote: »

Really enjoyed that episode. Love the structure of it. Ranking system is great and having everyone know who's fighting who could make for some interesting viewing as the season progresses.

Good first fight too. Already better than TUF 19. :pac:

Loving the new ranking system also. Its funny how they decided to try out such a system with an all female cast. I would say this is a way to test out how the competitors fair knowing who they will fight over the first eight weeks of fighting and if successful could be used with an all male cast . Id say with an all male cast all that pent up testosterone it could lead to a few incidents in the house with this system.

But would also make for good viewing

D35

Did anyone spot the big mistake ????

They flashed up the winner of one of the fights

I'll post a pic

D35

Sorry it's saying I'm a new user (over 5 years a member?)

s32.photobucket.com/user/Des_Smyth/media /20140911_184823_zpspusc7xhd. jpg.html

Can someone repost the link and delete the spaces I put in it

Paul_Mc1988

D35 wrote: »

Sorry it's saying I'm a new user (over 5 years a member?)

s32.photobucket.com/user/Des_Smyth/media /20140911_184823_zpspusc7xhd. jpg.html

Can someone repost the link and delete the spaces I put in it

That was the winner of the fight from that episode.

D35

Yeah but I took that photo before they fought, when they were picking the fights

Glock Lesnar

Great episode, couldn't be more in love with Thug Rose if I tried.

Lenin Skynard

This format is really good, a huge improvement. Found the whole two hour episode a bit gruelling though. The "I grew up in the slums with alcoholics for parents and this is my chance" stuff is really the worst part of TUF. I just forward through it. Hopefully it's a bit snappier next week. The fight was great though.

Dtp1979

In fairness, when it's an all male show, they're on camera crying like bjtches and being emotional. Now that it's an all female cast, there's less cryin and whinging than the men. And the first fight has been better than any fight on last seasons show.....by a mile

Ian Whelan

I would say that Daly was picked last because she seems to be the smallest girl there and does not look to be in very good shape compared to the rest. That's just my objective view.

MrStuffins

Did anybody notice in the preview at the beginning that at one point Ais is out cold on the floor in the bathroom and people trying to get her to wake up and calling an ambulance? Scary!

Glock Lesnar

Do any of you follow Daly's career? What's her chances here? She was rated fairly highly in the seeding but we saw in the first episode that the seeding doesn't mean a whole lot. She doesn't look particularly athletic but she's relatively experienced compared to the other girls and she trains at SBG which has proven itself a top tier camp at UFC level.

pablohoney87

Glock Lesnar wrote: »

Do any of you follow Daly's career? What's her chances here? She was rated fairly highly in the seeding but we saw in the first episode that the seeding doesn't mean a whole lot. She doesn't look particularly athletic but she's relatively experienced compared to the other girls and she trains at SBG which has proven itself a top tier camp at UFC level.

She's definitely got a chance. Lisa Ellis is in the house who has a win over her but is lower ranked.

I'd say she was perhaps picked last because of what she disclosed to the coaches about taking a year off. The house has played with peoples mental game before and they might worry about that.

Anyone who underestimates her athleticism is in for a huge surprise and anyone she can get to the ground is going to be in huge trouble.

I think if she can get an early win in the first round she has a great chance of going to the final.

Richy06

She came back from that year off with renewed focus, a mental strength and confidence in herself that was beyond anything I'd seen out of her before. She's probably got the best Jiu Jitsu in the house and is incredibly well rounded. She's fought some incredibly high level competition and she's even finished some 135ers. She trains in a proven, high level gym with a team on the rise. There's a reason she was seeded 5th. I reckon, as others do, that the reason she was picked last is because of her frank admission as to why she took time off.

DrPhilG

The show has it's highlights...



Solid first show, as usual an overdose of background but that's to be expected.

Rose is a highly likeable girl, particularly in her YouTube video where she wakes Pat up with a punch in the head...

Good fight, end of the first round was superb, both girls just ripping into each other, Torres with elbows and Randa with knees to the body.

I gave Markes the decision but it was close.

Easy Rod

Felice Herrig is well on her way to being my most unlikable Tuf contestant ever...that takes a lot of work.

CurryFlavoured

Easy Rod wrote: »

Felice Herrig is well on her way to being my most unlikable Tuf contestant ever...that takes a lot of work.

Agree, I found her and her 1st round opponent very annoying in ep 1.

pablohoney87

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John_D80

Great first episode. Brilliant fight. Aisling Daly seemed a bit peeved at being last pick understandably but it means fock all. Just ask Kelvin Gastellum. Last pick in a TUF season that had a lot of talent and now making a very noticeable mark on the welterweight rankings.

Mellor

Something to consider, they hand picked 8 contestants first, then they held try outs for the rest. Ais came in via try outs. I commented at the time that she apparently dominated out there.
Hence the no 5 seeding.

Ian Whelan wrote: »

I would say that Daly was picked last because she seems to be the smallest girl there and does not look to be in very good shape compared to the rest. That's just my objective view.

I doubt she's smallest. She was previously fighting at flyweight, and is dropping down to 115 for this.
I spoke to Alex chambers here in Oz before she flew out for the show, she said she'll prob be under the 115 limit as she's usually at 105. I doubt she's the only one who won't need to cut either.


Edit: Jessica Penne is normally 105 too.

Devastator

Enjoyed the 1st episode, it was good getting a bit of backround into the fighters before just seeing a load of pre lims without knowing anything about the fighters(like the normal TUF fight to get into the house). With some of the contestants having a bit of previous from the other promotion it could make for some really good grudge matches, but hope the producers don't turn it too much into big brother & just show bickering & "drama".

I noticed as someone mentioned earlier but Daly being passed out in the bathroom, looked like could be quite serious, hope its not. She looked like she was out cold

Good first fight to kick off the new season, I did see the mistake early in the episode when they showed the winner moved into next fight before all the fights had been picked. I thought it was just my eyes tricking me but glad I found out I'm not nuts reading this thread

I didn't really like the way Pettis came across on the show but only 1st show so that could change. Melendez seemed to have had his homework done & mind pretty much madeup before the try outs. His team seemed very relaxed during the tryouts, I wonder if Nate lit a big blunt just before cameras starting rolling

1st episode was better than whole of last season so I'm looking forward to the rest of it. Think these girls have a real hunger to go out & smash whoever is in front of them to win the new belt.

Zero-Cool

Just got to watch it, that was a better fight than any in tuf 19 (not hard i know). Looks like it will be a good season. Fair play Ais coming straight out with her time off over illness, mustn't have been easy. Can't wait to see her fight. Bit worrying about how they showed her on the season preview bit tho!

raze_them_all_

Fair ****ing play to ais. Ranked number 5 despite not been hand picked and rightly with a chip on her shoulder over being picked last. bet she smashed whoever she fights after fainting if she is allowed to fight

adamski8

Tbf being picked last isn't as bad as usual as the worst were automatically picked as they went with the top seeds. She was picked middle and ranked very high so she and others shouldn't be too disheartened by it.

Mellor

adamski8 wrote: »

Tbf being picked last isn't as bad as usual as the worst were automatically picked as they went with the top seeds. She was picked middle and ranked very high so she and others shouldn't be too disheartened by it.

It's true that the lower ranked fighters were already gone at that stage. But on the other hand, she wasn't actually picked at all.

adamski8

There were more girls not picked than picked. Doesnt matter anyway.

Mellor

adamski8 wrote: »

There were more girls not picked than picked.

Wut??
How did you work that one out?

Every fighter picked, had a corresponding fighter who went to the other team automatically without being picked. 8 of each.

adamski8

Your right. Ok so half of them didn't get picked

raze_them_all_

adamski8 wrote: »

Your right. Ok so half of them didn't get picked

Half didn't though, they picked the top 4 they wanted and the other 8 were assigned, yes in another series ais would of been picked but this series she was last and not picked

John_D80

You know its going to be a good season on TUF when you care enough about it that you are freeze-framing the previews for clues about what might be happening in the coming episodes.

Haven't had one of those for a while! :-)

Wrongway1985

Really enjoyed the first episode The show overall I'd taken a few seasons hiatus due to it wearing me thin; I returned viewing it for TUF18 and had the same effect yet still stupidly returned for TUF19 due to the Irish involvement and it was worse!!

They've hooked me back in but this time it seems might actually be worth my while.

Like the idea that instead of talent searching the talent is already there; these competitors are the division and should be guaranteed a few fights at least within the UFC.

Being the Invicta champ Carla I suppose is the obvious favorite for the show, would like to see Ash and Jojo do well obviously.

I thought Torres would go far as I'd seen her fighting before, unbeaten and had wins over 2 of the other contestants, although I knew nothing about the Randa girl so with that it will be interesting to see Justine Kish don't know anything about her either yet she's had over 25 fights although just 4 in MMA but one of those was a win over Randa.

Also on a different note found it odd to come see this after all the guff Ben Askren was spouting about the UFC recently he'd been helping fighters for their TV show :eek::eek:

John_D80

I was watching the UFC show on BT Sports this morning (recorded last night) and they had Aisling Daly and Joanne Calderwood on. At the close of the segment they were asked to tell their highlight in the house. Calderwood gave some blether about how proud she was to be part of the whole experience but Aisling Daly revealed that about halfway through the season she gets a very special visitor. Has to be Conor McG surely?

xtal191

Yeah I think he mentioned it in that Setanta interview last week.

John_D80

xtal191 wrote: »

Yeah I think he mentioned it in that Setanta interview last week.

Cool thanks. I watched that last Wednesday night but must have missed that bit.

That_Guy

That one Felice is doing my bloody head in. "Let's put our panties up beside the Pettis picture"... What the hell? Cringey as fúck but UFC probably loving it with people watching it to hopefully watch her lose eventually.

John_D80

Not a bad fight this week. Not as good as last week but still better than pretty much anything from TUF 19.

Thought Calderwood would have been far more dominant on the feet but she won it in the close quarter exchanges and on the ground. You can tell she has power in those hands though.

Anyone else think it should have went to a 3rd round? I scored it 19-19 after 2.

DrPhilG

She's a pain in the hole. Thinks she's hot stuff too, always posing and dressing as skimpy as possible. The whole knickers on the wall thing was just an excuse for her to drop her nags in the middle of the dressing room so they had to blur out below the waist. Stood there holding them down to make sure everyone got a good look! Hope this isn't breaking the rules on being tactful?

Her and Heather are thoroughly unlikeable.

Interesting how badly the whole team are taking to the Team Pettis training methods. Pettis risked the wrath of the female viewership when he suggested that with an all female team, "emotions" might play a part in things, lol.

A bit disappointed with the fight, expected better from Jo but glad she got the win. Good to see her and Ais do well. Speaking of Ais I don't think I saw her at all throughout the episode. Not a bad thing, letting her fighting do the talking rather than being an attention whore like Herrig.

On a side note, anyone know why they aren't showing the weigh ins this season? 2 fights in and we haven't seen any weigh ins or mention of weight cutting which is surprising given that it's going to be the lightest weight class in the UFC.

I'm assuming that the Ais Daly fainting episode is weight cut related but just not sure why we haven't seen anything.

And finally, gotta love Rose Namajunas. Pat is a lucky man

That_Guy

John_D80 wrote: »

Anyone else think it should have went to a 3rd round? I scored it 19-19 after 2.

Yep. I think it was Tony Weeks who scored it 19-19. I don't see how the other two saw it as 20-18. Didn't think either round were that obvious myself.

Mr.Pinchy

That_Guy wrote: »

That one Felice is doing my bloody head in. "Let's put our panties up beside the Pettis picture"... What the hell? Cringey as fúck but UFC probably loving it with people watching it to hopefully watch her lose eventually.

Yea that was cringe worthy alright, although to be fair to her she mentioned at the start thats how she makes a living, (off her internet followers ). I have no idea how that works though.

Defo thought that should have went a third round, that fight seemed closer than the first fight which got one.

DrPhilG

Mr.Pinchy wrote: »

thats how she makes a living, (off her internet followers ). I have no idea how that works though.

Twitter following etc is a general gauge of how popular a fighter is and therefore how many people are watching her fights, comments, instagram pictures etc.

The more popular you are, the more money sponsors are going to pay to get you in their gear.

Mr.Pinchy

No YOU are wrong...I mean, thanks for the info . Makes sense when you put it that way, its working wonders for Conor...

Zero-Cool

Thought Jo would have been more dominant but you could definitely see her power in the clinch.

Your wan is definitely only there to get famous off a reality show, knew it sounded weird when she got offered the chance from dana and she said wasn't gonna do it.

Roar

I had Calderwood winning both rounds tbh.

Glad she won, she seems quite down to earth and likeable. Think she only fought at about 60% there, seemed like she was playing it safe.

Herrig is an utter pain in the hole and I hope she's beaten.

El Guapo!

The first round was close enough but I had Calderwood landing more significant strikes so I gave that to her. I can see the argument for a draw in that round though.
I thought she controlled most of the second round too. Even though she was on the bottom for most of the round, she still never lost control and was landing shots most of the round.
This is actually a decent season so far.

Easy Rod

Yep, I gave both rounds to Calderwood. First half of round 1 she was definitely losing but turned it around towards the end and as Guapo said landed more significant strikes. 2nd round she landed the takedown and although she was slammed shortly after it was due to her being in an attacking position. Just because the other girl was on top in an awkward position for the remainder does not mean she was dominant.

The contrast between her softly spoken voice and vicious clinch work is hilarious. I'll baaaake ya a caaarrit caaake.

Glock Lesnar

Wasn't impressed by Calderwood's striking at all, she threw too many kicks and was countered by the same cross on a couple of occasions. She was tentative and seemed afraid to let loose with her hands which I suppose is understandable given the tournament nature of the program. Assuming Thug Rose wins her next fight I think she'll outwork Calderwood even if she isn't on the same level skill wise over the two rounds.

Mouthalmighty

Seems to me yer wan Felice just wants tv time and to get into movies..... Someone should tell her dropping her underwear at the drop of a hat on worldwide tv will get you into movies..... not the kind Ronda or Gina are in but movies is movies just ask the former Mrs Ortiz

Wrongway1985

Although I may b wrong I hate to disappoint some of ye and say Felice beats Clark again and if she does she fights Randa which will most likely suit her style.

Yea she's self indulgent and a complete idiot personality wise, she's looking for attention and is getting it seems. But shes not there to lose fights.