Gameweek 4 Transfers.

Dr. Bre

Costa and ward prowse in for bojan and nasri

who_ru

boccy23 wrote: »

How about Debucchy instead of Kos? Gets forward more, chance of a goal, still an Arsenal defender, less chance of rotation and cheaper. 5.5 versus 6.1.

Kos gets a lot of bonus points though, hence why i'm reluctant to get rid.

boccy23

who_ru wrote: »

Kos gets a lot of bonus points though, hence why i'm reluctant to get rid.

But will he rotate with Chambers to partner Mert on an on-going basis with CL etc. Debucchy doesn't look like he will have competition in the team.
Don't know how they decide the Bonus points anyway so have never tried to second guess these.

q2ice

roryc wrote: »

Show me a team with Costa, Aguero and Sturridge in it, and I'll show you the flaws.

Its falcao not sturridge as sturridge is .5 dearer but how about?

Krul, Elliot
Ivanovic, Dier, Taylor, Wisdom, Duff
Ramsey, Fabergas, Siggurdsson, King, Boyd
Aguero, Costa, Falcao

Boyd should be getting regular game time and King had a good start to the campaign.
0.3 mill in the bank to upgrade Dier to either Shawcross or Debuchy

Backstreet Moyes

Anybody sticking with Rooney and Mata i want to wildcard but i don't want these two out with QPR at home next. Just don't know who is going to be first choice i presume Rooney will start.

PARlance

Nuts102 wrote: »

Anybody sticking with Rooney and Mata i want to wildcard but i don't want these two out with QPR at home next. Just don't know who is going to be first choice i presume Rooney will start.

I'm sticking with them.
GW2 (Mata) can happen again and I'd be fairly confident Rooney...recently back to be LvGs captain won't miss out on much.... A few goals wouldn't go astray.
If he's played deep behind the front two then I'll start to think about getting him out.

Alfred Borden

Is it worth playing the wildcard so early to get the big three upfront? already have aguero and costa but could do with moving mata on

Chesty08

I have activated the wildcard.

I think having the big 3 upfront with a weak defence is a poor strategy. What will separate the teams at the top overall will be GK / Def & Captain choice.

What are peoples views on defences. Would a consistent top 5 defenders (with rotation) not be a good strategy>?

i.e

Lloris

Jones Moreno Ivanovic Azpil & Clyne

Siggy, Ramsey, Sterling, Navas (Quinn)

Costa, Falcao (Zamora)

I would never play Zamora or Quinn and my rotable players would predominantly be Clyne & Navas

Ace2007

Chesty08 wrote: »

I have activated the wildcard.

I think having the big 3 upfront with a weak defence is a poor strategy. What will separate the teams at the top overall will be GK / Def & Captain choice.

What are peoples views on defences. Would a consistent top 5 defenders (with rotation) not be a good strategy>?

i.e

Lloris

Jones Moreno Ivanovic Azpil & Clyne

Siggy, Ramsey, Sterling, Navas (Quinn)

Costa, Falcao (Zamora)

I would never play Zamora or Quinn and my rotable players would predominantly be Clyne & Navas

Regarding the weak defence comment, except what exactly is a weak defence? For example I think you could spend 33m on defence/keepers that include united/city players and who should all get 90 mins.Then 33.5 on top 3 strikers leaves you with ~ 34 for midfield.

In your team about Navas is a bit of a rotation risk, Zamora won't get much game time and will probably lose you value

Chesty08

Ace2007 wrote: »

Regarding the weak defence comment, except what exactly is a weak defence? For example I think you could spend 33m on defence/keepers that include united/city players and who should all get 90 mins.Then 33.5 on top 3 strikers leaves you with ~ 34 for midfield.

In your team about Navas is a bit of a rotation risk, Zamora won't get much game time and will probably lose you value

34 for midfield is really bad though. That leaves you with 2 x 9mil midfielders, 1 x 4.5 midfielder & then 11.5 million left for 2 others.

Midfield is just as important for scoring particularly with all the potential high scorers in that department this year.

A weak defence is a defence which is low scoring and only contributes through CS, overall no assists, goals or BPS attributed to the players

i.e a Coleman / Baines v a Distin / Jagielka

Ace2007

Chesty08 wrote: »

34 for midfield is really bad though. That leaves you with 2 x 9mil midfielders, 1 x 4.5 midfielder & then 11.5 million left for 2 others.

Midfield is just as important for scoring particularly with all the potential high scorers in that department this year.

A weak defence is a defence which is low scoring and only contributes through CS, overall no assists, goals or BPS attributed to the players

i.e a Coleman / Baines v a Distin / Jagielka

Depending on value of your team, it could be 35m, plus going with that midfield, your not going to be playing your cheap option, you would still have the likes of sterling/ramsey/siggy in your team.

Plus the chanes are one of your top 3 will get injured at some stage, so then you can just replace them with nasmith or welbeck nd upgrade one of your midflied guys to Fab.

Backstreet Moyes

Chesty08 wrote: »

I have activated the wildcard.

I think having the big 3 upfront with a weak defence is a poor strategy. What will separate the teams at the top overall will be GK / Def & Captain choice.

What are peoples views on defences. Would a consistent top 5 defenders (with rotation) not be a good strategy>?

i.e

Lloris

Jones Moreno Ivanovic Azpil & Clyne

Siggy, Ramsey, Sterling, Navas (Quinn)


Costa, Falcao (Zamora)

I would never play Zamora or Quinn and my rotable players would predominantly be Clyne & Navas

That is way to much to pay on your defence i presume better value play 3-4-3 or 3-5-2.

Three good defenders and two cheap rotational defenders who start. Moore for Leciester for example 4.0 starts every game and Leiciseter have looked fairly solid so far in difficult games.

FutureGuy

roryc wrote: »

Yeah I was amazed by how many seemily sane people used their wildcard before the international break and end of the transfer window. Granted, I've done it after GW1 in the past but thats when there have been 3 or 4 must have players that I didn't have in my original team. A lot of people seem to have used their WC unnecessarily to make a handful of changes, and actually scored worse than they would have had they kept their pre-WC team. The season is long anyway so I wouldn't worry. Hard to tell whether the WC will be a massive bonus at some stage later on in the season. Looking less and less likely I'll use mine anytime soon though.

Sorry Rory, I don't undertsand this point at all. You question someone's sanity because they played their WC before the international break and yet you did the same before? Who cares why they used it and to be honest, if you had to use your WC to get in 4 must have players, I would think that was a WC wasted due to insufficient preseason planning. And how is what you did different from the example where question others sanity?

In addition, it's not uncommon to score less with your wildcard team as the WC should be used to plan long term, not just that gameweek.

I remember last year, a few people used the WC very early and did incredibly well.

kronsington

Aguero and £5m jobber striker

Or

Someone like Rooney and Welbeck

(Already have Costa)

zarquon

FutureGuy wrote: »

Sorry Rory, I don't undertsand this point at all. You question someone's sanity because they played their WC before the international break and yet you did the same before? Who cares why they used it and to be honest, if you had to use your WC to get in 4 must have players, I would think that was a WC wasted due to insufficient preseason planning. And how is what you did different from the example where question others sanity?

In addition, it's not uncommon to score less with your wildcard team as the WC should be used to plan long term, not just that gameweek.

I remember last year, a few people used the WC very early and did incredibly well.

A wildcard to bring in form players does not equal success. I used mine during the first international break to fix my team as i loaded up on double gw players early that did not perform and by the end of the break i had some top performing players in the team. I then ended up with ranks below 2m and 1m in the next 3 weeks.

Wildcards are a risk no matter when you play them. It is all a roll of a dice albeit with some educated rationale.

Ideally though a wildcard should never be played until after the transfer deadline so that final teams are settled. This ideal scenario assumes that you start off with a good team that only requires minor tweaking. If someone starts in GW1 with a team that happens to have 4 or 5 duds at a minimum then you are perfectly justified in using the WC to fix the selection before you fall too far down the ranks.

The insanity comes when someone with a good team, performing well and only needing minor tweaks in 2 to 3 positions, rips up their team with a WC. It is unfair to suggest insanity or poor choice when someone uses the WC who genuinely has a poor team already in need of deep surgery.

Using a Wildcard for value gains may not be effective this year as the stats indicate that WC transfers are not counted in the numbers to calculate price falls or rises. This will remove articial price gains seen in previous years.

It is all down to personal preference. I am happy with my team. Have 2 FT for this break but want to make 3 or 4 changes. Worse case scenario i will take a -8 hit for a pseudo wildcard team instead as i believe the net benefit would see me make up the 8 points quickly and i would have my WC for a more opportune time.

8-10

What I don't get is people using the wildcards this GW for price rises but activating it now and not at the end of the GW.

Everybody should be taking the points hits and then on Sept 13th activating the WC to eliminate all the hits. If it's true that wildcards are not affecting price rises then why activate it up front? Means your bringing in players in the hope that they'll rise while at the same time ensuring that transfer doesn't help you achieve that, madness!

If you activate at the end of the GW, you'll get all points hits back, so there's no rush.

zarquon

8-10 wrote: »

What I don't get is people using the wildcards this GW for price rises but activating it now and not at the end of the GW.

Everybody should be taking the points hits and then on Sept 13th activating the WC to eliminate all the hits. If it's true that wildcards are not affecting price rises then why activate it up front? Means your bringing in players in the hope that they'll rise while at the same time ensuring that transfer doesn't help you achieve that, madness!

If you activate at the end of the GW, you'll get all points hits back, so there's no rush.

That would be the sensible approach but only a minority of players are aware that WC transfer may no longer counter towards the net transfer counts.

iroced

8-10 wrote: »

What I don't get is people using the wildcards this GW for price rises but activating it now and not at the end of the GW.

Everybody should be taking the points hits and then on Sept 13th activating the WC to eliminate all the hits. If it's true that wildcards are not affecting price rises then why activate it up front? Means your bringing in players in the hope that they'll rise while at the same time ensuring that transfer doesn't help you achieve that, madness!

If you activate at the end of the GW, you'll get all points hits back, so there's no rush.

I agree with you but only discovered about this new "rule" after I activated mine ...

q2ice

iroced wrote: »

I agree with you but only discovered about this new "rule" after I activated mine ...

The way the price rises are working this year (or lack thereof) means that you probably wont make much on price rises.
Waiting for Sterling to go up to make 0.1 before getting rid.

In fairness though I made a couple of changes for a 4 point hit and when I made a few more transfers I hit the wildcard button. A 4 point hit yes, 8 points maybe, 12 & up - no.
Making money in the process would be an added bonus. Just need Sterling to rise again before Falcao does - looking doubtful.

lorenzo87

Di Maria with 1 brilliant goal and 3 assists for Argentina against Germany so far tonight, he is unreal and should get plenty of points this season for Utd.

Lemlin

lorenzo87 wrote: »

Di Maria with 1 brilliant goal and 3 assists for Argentina against Germany so far tonight, he is unreal and should get plenty of points this season for Utd.

Pity he can't do that against Burnley

lorenzo87

Lemlin wrote: »

Pity he can't do that against Burnley

His first game of football since the World Cup that was, in his first game for Man Utd, in his first game in the Premier League, in a new environment. And even against Burnley he stood out like a sore thumb.

twam2008

Lemlin wrote: »

Pity he can't do that against Burnley

He'd have been alright if Falcao was at the end of his crosses.

finnharpsboy

twam2008 wrote: »

He'd have been alright if Falcao was at the end of his crosses.

I hope to make space for both of them this week

q2ice

finnharpsboy wrote: »

I hope to make space for both of them this week

Di Maria for either Ramsey or Fabergas?

Lemlin

lorenzo87 wrote: »

His first game of football since the World Cup that was, in his first game for Man Utd, in his first game in the Premier League, in a new environment. And even against Burnley he stood out like a sore thumb.

He's a 60 mil player. He'd want to be standing out against Burnley. They're a team of journeymen like Jones and Dean Marney.

CSF

twam2008 wrote: »

He'd have been alright if Falcao was at the end of his crosses.

Yeah that Van Persie lad is muck

lorenzo87

Lemlin wrote: »

He's a 60 mil player. He'd want to be standing out against Burnley. They're a team of journeymen like Jones and Dean Marney.

Right, whatever.
My initial post was to let people know Di Maria is playing well, take your ABU nonsense elsewhere.

finnharpsboy

q2ice wrote: »

Di Maria for either Ramsey or Fabergas?

Ramsey maybe

q2ice

finnharpsboy wrote: »

Ramsey maybe

Cheers. That was my initial reaction.