ebola

King Mob

DamagedTrax wrote: »

cure for ebola 'within weeks'

http://www.thejournal.ie/ebola-cure-coming-within-weeks-1738764-Oct2014/

now, whatever you think about this being a conspiracy or not, you guys that were on at him have to admit that euroboom13 was spot on with his prediction.

So you've proved his prediction about the lack of media coverage by pointing to media coverage?

Or was it the prediction that if you don't hear about it in the media you don't hear about it in the media?

DamagedTrax

King Mob wrote: »

So you've proved his prediction about the lack of media coverage by pointing to media coverage?

Or was it the prediction that if you don't hear about it in the media you don't hear about it in the media?

his prediction was that they'd announce ebola was done, they'd announce a cure very soon and media attention would dissapate..

all those things happened within 2 days of him saying they would.

i dont know how or why or if its even got anything to do with his theory (which i personally dont believe) but when it comes to the basics of what he said, the guy was right and you know it.

King Mob

DamagedTrax wrote: »

his prediction was that they'd announce ebola was done, they'd announce a cure very soon and media attention would dissapate..

all those things happened within 2 days of him saying they would.

i dont know how or why or if its even got anything to do with his theory (which i personally dont believe) but when it comes to the basics of what he said, the guy was right and you know it.

But the report didn't say that ebola was done.
They didn't even say that they actually had the cure.

And he didn't predict that they would announce a cure or that it was done.

He said:

Sky have dropped the Ebola story today. Will the disease drop off too?

YES.

The story was not dropped as you have shown by posting a news story about it.
Ebola itself has not dropped off because that's not what the article says, and a disease does not just vanish overnight because it wasn't reported in the news.

I'm surprised you could get "basics" from a prediction so vague and lacking in detail.
Even if we ignore all that at take the vaguest criteria, stopped clocks are right twice a day.

So again, what part of the prediction was spot on?

DamagedTrax

King Mob wrote: »

But the report ...was spot on?

you clearly didnt understand what he was getting at.

someone even suggested that he was saying the media drop off would affect the actual disease

now either some people on this thread take things WAY too literally, the intelligence levels have dropped to the point of not getting subtlety or they're being quite facetious... (i suspect the latter).

King Mob

DamagedTrax wrote: »

you clearly didnt understand what he was getting at.

If this is the case then it's because he is being cryptic and unwilling to explain what he's getting at when asked.

If you know what he's getting at and how his vague non-prediction predicted something, then please explain.

DamagedTrax wrote: »

someone even suggested that he was saying the media drop off would affect the actual disease
.

If this isn't the case, then his prediction is "if the media cover stops there's no more media coverage." Which is just a tautology, not a prediction.
And one you've shown to be wrong.

So again, what was spot on about the prediction?

jh79

euroboom13 wrote: »

Watch and draw your own conclusion.

I am trying to show to you the power of public awareness and its powerful effect on outcomes.

But you keep looking for direct correlation, its effects aren't explainable that way.

DamagedTrax wrote: »

you clearly didnt understand what he was getting at.

someone even suggested that he was saying the media drop off would affect the actual disease

now either some people on this thread take things WAY too literally, the intelligence levels have dropped to the point of not getting subtlety or they're being quite facetious... (i suspect the latter).

euroboom13 has somewhat suggested this

Rotunda Shill

degrassinoel

I like the image - although it belongs in another forum unless you're going to add your own input.

Back on topic - seems the first case in New York has been reported as being a doctor who had used the subway, went bowling and jogging before theinfection manifested.

The doctor, identified as Craig Spencer, 33, came back from treating Ebola patients in Guinea October 17 and developed a fever, nausea, pain and fatigue Thursday. He is in isolation and being treated at New York's Bellevue Hospital, one of the eight hospitals statewide that Gov. Andrew Cuomo designated earlier this month as part of an Ebola preparedness plan.
Spencer, who is hospitalized in intensive care, went for a jog, may have gone to a restaurant, traveled the city's vast subway system and went bowling before feeling ill, but authorities stressed that the likelihood of him spreading the virus was low.
"We want to state at the outset there is no reason for New Yorkers to be alarmed,"

Source

Torakx

If they didn't want people to be alarmed, they wouldn't tell the press.

Rotunda Shill

Torakx wrote: »

If they didn't want people to be alarmed, they wouldn't tell the press.

The mainstream media is the mouthpiece of the Whitehouse so it must be obvious that the Government wants to fear monger the masses.

King Mob

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

The mainstream media is the mouthpiece of the Whitehouse so it must be obvious that the Government wants to fear monger the masses.

But if your assertion that the mainstream media isn't the mouthpiece of the government isn't true, then your conclusion doesn't follow.

Could you explain what about the coverage is unusual or suspicious to you?

Rotunda Shill

King Mob wrote: »

But if your assertion that the mainstream media isn't the mouthpiece of the government isn't true, then your conclusion doesn't follow.

Could you explain what about the coverage is unusual or suspicious to you?

Its nothing but blatant fear mongering and typical of the US Government.

Why did they have to broadcast that the guy traveled across NYC on the subway, played bowling and jogged etc. They should have discretely traced the guys tracks and contacted anyone that he was in close contact with and have them monitored and quarantined.

It is sad when once such reputable news sources such as the New York Times now being reduced to fear mongering gutter journalism.

American Mainstream Media is the Devils toilet and its excrement comes directly from the Whitehouse.

King Mob

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

Its nothing but blatant fear mongering and typical of the US Government.

Why did they have to broadcast that the guy traveled across NYC on the subway, played bowling and jogged etc. They should have discretely traced the guys tracks and contacted anyone that he was in close contact with and have them monitored and quarantined.

It is sad when once such reputable news sources such as the New York Times now being reduced to fear mongering gutter journalism.

American Mainstream Media is the Devils toilet and its excrement comes directly from the Whitehouse.

But how do you know that the media did this on the orders on the government and not on their own initiative to sensationalise?

Should the government step in and prevent the media from reporting things and cover them up? cause that's what you are suggesting they should do.

And again, you've not explained what's unusual or suspicious about the coverage.
Perhaps you could point to an outbreak you don't believe was a conspiracy as an example?

Rotunda Shill

King Mob wrote: »

But how do you know that the media did this on the orders on the government and not on their own initiative to sensationalise?

Should the government step in and prevent the media from reporting things and cover them up? cause that's what you are suggesting they should do.

And again, you've not explained what's unusual or suspicious about the coverage.
Perhaps you could point to an outbreak you don't believe was a conspiracy as an example?

It is well known now that US mainstream Media is under the control of Government censorship. They cannot write a script on a major story without Government approval.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Media_Now_Openly_Admitting_The_Government_Controls_The_News/26077/0/38/38/Y/M.html


Here is another instance of US Government lies that could cost millions of lives.

We are not being told the truth about Ebola, onlt the other day we were told that it was not air borne and difficult to catch. The CDC’s own guidelines for handling a Level 4 pathogen of which Ebola is requires the dawning of positive pressure suits and external air supplies!

http://www.cdc.gov/training/quicklearns/biosafety/

Healthcare workers in Texas caught Ebola wearing standard PPE. Its as if the US Government wants this disease to spread like wildfire.

King Mob

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

It is well known now that US mainstream Media is under the control of Government censorship. They cannot write a script on a major story without Government approval.

Some people believe this, that doesn't make it true.

But you avoided my question.
What you are suggesting is that the media should cover up the virus on the behest of the government in the name of national security.
I find this very ironic.

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

We are not being told the truth about Ebola, onlt the other day we were told that it was not air borne and difficult to catch. The CDC’s own guidelines for handling a Level 4 pathogen of which Ebola is requires the dawning of positive pressure suits and external air supplies!
.

So are you saying that Ebola is airborne?
If so, how did the government convince people to let themselves be infected?

And why, if they want the virus to spread, are they doing it so slowly?

And why do they want to spread the virus in the first place?

Rotunda Shill

King Mob wrote: »

Some people believe this, that doesn't make it true.

But you avoided my question.
What you are suggesting is that the media should cover up the virus on the behest of the government in the name of national security.
I find this very ironic.

Well the Government is certainly very sloppy with its clean up protocol on Ebola.

Either Ebola in New York City is all a fabricated hoax or else the Government wants to deliberately spread the disease.

Explain this: HazMat team empties infected Ebola doctor’s apartment WITHOUT gloves, face masks or any protective gear

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2679659/pg1

King Mob wrote: »

So are you saying that Ebola is airborne?
If so, how did the government convince people to let themselves be infected?

And why, if they want the virus to spread, are they doing it so slowly?

And why do they want to spread the virus in the first place?

I gave the instance that Ebola is a category 4 virus as laid down by the CDC Guidelines. It requires external air source and specialized PPE. You have the President of the United States going AGAINST CDC Guidelines advising everyone that you cannot catch Ebola on a Bus.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/brittany-m-hughes/obama-repeats-you-can-t-get-ebola-bus-day-after-bus-quarantined-dc

King Mob

All of my questions are avoided again.

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

Well the Government is certainly very sloppy with its clean up protocol on Ebola.

Either Ebola in New York City is all a fabricated hoax or else the Government wants to deliberately spread the disease.

So what would the motives be for either?

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

Explain this: HazMat team empties infected Ebola doctor’s apartment WITHOUT gloves, face masks or any protective gear

You first. Why were they doing it?
How were they convinced to let themselves be infected?

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

I gave the instance that Ebola is a category 4 virus as laid down by the CDC Guidelines. It requires external air source and specialized PPE. You have the President of the United States going AGAINST CDC Guidelines advising everyone that you cannot catch Ebola on a Bus.

So do you believe that it's airborne or not?

Daithi 1

Sorry if off topic right now but this belongs in here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApvGK5Df0os

http://online.wsj.com/articles/footage-from-1976-documents-discovery-of-ebola-virus-1413470954


"In 1976, a group of health workers took a pair of film cameras to what was then known as Zaire and documented their discovery of a new, deadly virus.

Today we know that virus as Ebola.

A 27-year-old Belgian microbiologist named Peter Piot and his colleagues were the first to scientifically identify the Ebola virus.

The Wall Street Journal met Dr. Piot recently and was given access to rare archival footage that chronicled the team’s trip nearly four decades ago."

Rotunda Shill

King Mob wrote: »

So do you believe that it's airborne or not?

Scientists have proven that Ebola is airborne in cold weather.

King Mob

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

Scientists have proven that Ebola is airborne in cold weather.

So leaving aside the question of why the government are leaving this supposedly in incriminating evidence.

How does the government convince the people working to contain the virus to let themselves be infected?

And again, what is their purpose?

Rotunda Shill

King Mob wrote: »

So leaving aside the question of why the government are leaving this supposedly in incriminating evidence.

How does the government convince the people working to contain the virus to let themselves be infected?

And again, what is their purpose?

If the US Government was to take Ebola serious they would go by by the correct protocols for a level 4 Bio hazard and tell the truth instead of spitting out lies and disinformation.

CDC Guidelines specify proper PPE and disposal methods for waste for a level 4 .

The US Government has only one thing on its agenda and that is to spread this disease, infect the masses, martial law, quarantine perhaps millions in enclosed FEMA camps and mass extermination. The caskets are ready.

People need to seek advice other than the US Government because it is corrupt and EVIL.

King Mob

Again you've ignored questions you are unable to answer.
How does the government convince the people working to contain the virus to let themselves be infected?

The answer is they don't and they didn't.
The people dealing with the virus are experts, and if the virus was airborne like you claim, then they would know this and wouldn't let themselves be infected.
The alternative is that you, as a non expert with no training in the disease or the protocols and nowhere near any of the places that the virus is affecting, is somehow more informed than the experts.
I don't buy that.

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

The US Government has only one thing on its agenda and that is to spread this disease, infect the masses, martial law, quarantine perhaps millions in enclosed FEMA camps and mass extermination. The caskets are ready.

Like how that happened with Swine flu?
Or bird flu?
Or Sars?

If their goal is to spread the virus, why are they giving it media attention?
Why not just let it spread silently before people can take action?
Then when the virus has a huge foothold, then introduce their evil plan?

Rotunda Shill

King Mob wrote: »

Again you've ignored questions you are unable to answer.
How does the government convince the people working to contain the virus to let themselves be infected?

Those infected should not have been allowed back into the USA.

Those that were foolishly let back into america were allowed run amok, that Doctor summed up the shambles of this whole Ebola Crisis. He was on his "own Quarantine" ended up riding the subway, playing bowling, riding about the city in a cab. His apartment was cleaned out by a contractor without abiding to the correct protocols.

King Mob wrote: »

The answer is they don't and they didn't.
The people dealing with the virus are experts, and if the virus was airborne like you claim, then they would know this and wouldn't let themselves be infected.

The expert in Chief has told the nation that the virus "cannot be passed on in a bus".

King Mob wrote: »

The alternative is that you, as a non expert with no training in the disease or the protocols and nowhere near any of the places that the virus is affecting, is somehow more informed than the experts.
I don't buy that.

Common sense is the expert with any deadly level 4 Bio hazard virus and will determine whether you will live or die in some purpose built US Government extermination camp.

Accept it as a level 4 Bio hazard virus and adhere to the correct scientific protocols and guidelines. Purchase the recommended PPE. Evaluate and avoid high risk areas, stock up and of protect yourself.

If you go by Barack Obama's guidelines the Government experts according to yourself you will more than likely end up dead and disposed of in one of their purpose built quarantine camps.

King Mob wrote: »

Like how that happened with Swine flu?
Or bird flu?
Or Sars?

If their goal is to spread the virus, why are they giving it media attention?
Why not just let it spread silently before people can take action?
Then when the virus has a huge foothold, then introduce their evil plan?

Ebola should it take off would be the equivalent of Swine Flu, AIDS Sars and all the other viruses combined on Steroids and is quite possible giving the nature and track record of this EVIL terrorist supporting psychopath that is running the country.

Obama has shown his true colors by arming Jihad terrorists and cheer leading the slaughter of over 500 Children in GAZA.(Satanic Child Sacrifice among Western World Leaders)

King Mob

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

Those infected should not have been allowed back into the USA.

Those that were foolishly let back into america were allowed run amok, that Doctor summed up the shambles of this whole Ebola Crisis.

Not an answer to my points.
You cannot explain why these people are allowing themselves to be infected.

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

Common sense is the expert with any deadly level 4 Bio hazard virus and will determine whether you will live or die in some purpose built US Government extermination camp.

Your definition of common sense is not universal.
Even still, things that might appear to be common sense to an outside obverse thousands of miles from the scene with no training or expertise might not actually be good sense.

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

Accept it as a level 4 Bio hazard virus and adhere to the correct scientific protocols and guidelines. Purchase the recommended PPE. Evaluate and avoid high risk areas, stock up and of protect yourself.

Again we run into the issue.
It makes no sense for them to give people warning at time to prepare.
If they wanted the virus to spread they wouldn't report it in the media until it had already taken a hold and there was nothing that could be done about it.
They wouldn't leave clues for armchair detectives/survivalists to find.

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

Ebola should it take off would be the equivalent of Swine Flu, AIDS Sars and all the other viruses combined on Steroids and is quite possible giving the nature and track record of this EVIL terrorist supporting psychopath that is running the country.

People said that about Swine flu as well. And every other hyped outbreak before that.
But it didn't happen.
Why should we think that this time will be any different?

Rotunda Shill

King Mob wrote: »

Not an answer to my points.
You cannot explain why these people are allowing themselves to be infected.

Their downright carelessness, not going by the correct guidelines for a level 4 Bio-hazard infectious disease. They seem to want everyone else to be infected and this is the same Government that you trust.

King Mob wrote: »

People said that about Swine flu as well. And every other hyped outbreak before that. But it didn't happen.Why should we think that this time will be any different?

This could well be another hoax but as I have repeatedly stated that Ebola should not be taken likely. Obama being such an evil psychopath is well capable of unleashing bio warfare across the country that he is suppose to represent and protect.

He may well fear monger the nation into taking toxic vaccines or create lies to enact NDAA and introduce Martial Law with Fema Camps.

Ebola hoax created to justify imposing martial law in US: Prof. Fetzer

King Mob

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

Their downright carelessness, not going by the correct guidelines for a level 4 Bio-hazard infectious disease. They seem to want everyone else to be infected and this is the same Government that you trust.

But why are they being careless?
If you are able to tell that they are not handling the virus correct even though you've no training or education in the field and aren't at the site, then trained experts there know well what's going on.

They would have to be deliberately infecting themselves.
This does not make sense.
If they wanted to spread the virus, then they would just take samples and use those to infect other people.

The only reason they seem to have to infect themselves and so flagrantly disregard safety measures is to give armchair detectives clues that there's a secret plot.

Rotunda Shill wrote: »

This could well be another hoax but as I have repeatedly stated that Ebola should not be taken likely. Obama being such an evil psychopath is well capable of unleashing bio warfare across the country that he is suppose to represent and protect.

He may well fear monger the nation into taking toxic vaccines or create lies to enact NDAA and introduce Martial Law with Fema Camps.

Yup, people claimed that before as well.

So why is ebola different this time?

Why didn't they do all of this stuff the last time?

gozunda

CT #51

The China Strain?

http://www.rense.com/general67/ebola.htm

Then

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/33012186-539a-11e4-929b-00144feab7de.html#axzz3HQUy3yY7

But

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-09-16/africa-s-ebola-should-be-china-s-problem

Lebensraum?

Beano

gozunda wrote: »

CT #51

The China Strain?

http://www.rense.com/general67/ebola.htm

Then

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/33012186-539a-11e4-929b-00144feab7de.html#axzz3HQUy3yY7

But

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-09-16/africa-s-ebola-should-be-china-s-problem

Lebensraum?

The date on that first article is 7-31-5. I could be wrong but that looks like July 31st 2005. Which would be right around the time of the H5N1 scare. How is that article relevant to what is happening today?

gozunda

Beano wrote: »

The date on that first article is 7-31-5. I could be wrong but that looks like July 31st 2005. Which would be right around the time of the H5N1 scare. How is that article relevant to what is happening today?

Well let's see. Some linkage. The article relates to the emergence of an Ebola virus that is more virulent than previous strains. The article relates this to chinese involvement. In the last 2 decades economic activity in west Africa has grown exponentially with land acquisition and mineral rights attracting serious interest. China currently also has the largest population on the planet. If you want a CT scenario then I suppose you could look to the idea of an engineered opportunity for further economic expansion. The slightly odd thing that does stand out at present is the fact that there appears to have been no reported infections amongst either the the large Chinese population in west Africa or amongst chinese medical teams on the ground. This is in contrast to other counties such as the UK and the US....

Beano

gozunda wrote: »

Well let's see. Some linkage. The article relates to the emergence of an Ebola virus that is more virulent than previous strains. The article relates this to chinese involvement. In the last 2 decades economic activity in west Africa has grown exponentially with land acquisition and mineral rights attracting serious interest. China currently also has the largest population on the planet. If you want a CT scenario then I suppose you could look to the idea of an engineered opportunity for further economic expansion. The slightly odd thing that does stand out at present is the fact that there appears to have been no reported infections amongst either the the large Chinese population in west Africa or amongst chinese medical teams on the ground. This is in contrast to other counties such as the UK and the US....

This still doesnt explain what the relevance of the first article is, except for asking a question about ebola that it cant answer.

Are there any chinese medical teams on the ground?