Limerick v. Wexford, SHC QF, Semple Stadium @ 2pm

T0001

Limerick v. Wexford, SHC QF, Semple Stadium @ 2pm

Can Limerick bounce back or are Wexford on too much of a roll?

bennyl10

T0001 wrote: »

Can Limerick bounce back or are Wexford on too much of a roll?

2pm thurles.. If wanted to update the title..

Game itself,momentum all with Wexford, but limerick I think will shade it just..

Fireball07

Michael Duignan & Donal Óg both tipped Wexford... they are on a roll, have their supporters well and truly behind them, playing some excellent hurling, have taken a big scalp... but I hope that we have enough to beat them at this stage. Would be really disappointing to fall behind another team at this stage of our development.


Changes needed, and improvement needed to deal with the Wexford movement in attack in particular; but their wide count and the space in their backline are things we can expose. They don't ever give up anyway, that's for sure.

grimbergen

Limerick for me. Wexford being on a roll is over-stated when you consider it came across 14-man Clare and the worst Waterford team in a long time. Just think Limerick have that bit more experience and guile to see them through. Wexford won't have faced forwards like this especially if Limk can find their killer instinct.

Two great hurling counties though with huge support - great to see them going well.

Mountainlad

grimbergen wrote: »

Limerick for me. Wexford being on a roll is over-stated when you consider it came across 14-man Clare and the worst Waterford team in a long time. Just think Limerick have that bit more experience and guile to see them through. Wexford won't have faced forwards like this especially if Limk can find their killer instinct.

Two great hurling counties though with huge support - great to see them going well.

When was the last time Limerick blew a team away? If there forwards were that good, they would have done.

John Allen played a containment game last year because he recognized this. Every game they win is tight and hard fought. They don't have a killer instinct. They've scored 3 goals in their last 5 championship games! And more than most teams, you will see wingbacks and midfielders scoring regularly for Limerick. Not neccesarily a complaint, but it's a sign that the forward line really isn't bursting with firepower.

Wexford's forwards are very good and they have been creating goal chances in every game they've played, including the Dublin game. Very hard to deal with, and though Limerick always bring great fight and intensity, I would have to question their defense this year. Some of the goals conceded (2ND V Tipp and both of Cork's) leave a lot to be desired in my opinion from the players mostly, but also management in their naivety.

Wexford did tire I think yesterday against Waterford and that could be an issue. They barely hit a wide for so long it seemed in that game but somehow ended up with 16. That is their achilles heel.

bruschi

I think this might be the final step for Wexford alright. I didnt expect to beat Clare, or think we could. Wasnt at all surprised to take Waterford but I think that may be saying more about how far Waterford have regressed than us progressing. But I think Limerick are an altogether different proposition and should be hurting from losing a Musnter final that they had in their sights for a decent time in that game.

Limerick will have better forwards playing more cohesively than Wexford have encountered this year. And its highly likely that Rossiter is going to be out, and he'll be a huge loss, he had been playing very well this year, particularly as the loose defender playing the ball out of defence. We dont really have adequate depth to replace him. I think midfield will be a great battle between 4 players who are all playing very well this year. Redmond still isnt fully fit and the Waterford game was the longest time he played this year, so not sure if another game so soon will take more out of him. Our forwards are going very well, but Guiney in particular cant be as lazy again. Has an awful tendancy to wait for handy balls to just lob over the bar. Harry Kehoe cant start again. Was completely anonymous for the 20 minutes he started. But in McDonald and McGovern, we have 2 of the most in form forwards right now, so who knows, we certainly are in with a good shout the way we are going.

bennyl10

Tickets back online for anyone interested in going!

00lk

So is it Town End or Killinan End for the Limerick Supporters?
Or is it whatever you can get your hands on online?

Fireball07

grimbergen wrote: »

Limerick for me. Wexford being on a roll is over-stated when you consider it came across 14-man Clare and the worst Waterford team in a long time. Just think Limerick have that bit more experience and guile to see them through.

They did beat Clare with 15 in the end... obviously Clare were tired and playing poorly, but Wexford still had to beat them. It's oddly similar to Clare's run last year... people were still picking faults with them right up until the final, but they won the All-Ireland. I don't think Wexford are quite on that level, but momentum is powerful... I think it's lucky that Limerick meet them now tbh.

We should have more experience & guile, but does our management team have that??

Mountainlad wrote: »

When was the last time Limerick blew a team away? If there forwards were that good, they would have done.

John Allen played a containment game last year because he recognized this. Every game they win is tight and hard fought. They don't have a killer instinct. They've scored 3 goals in their last 5 championship games! And more than most teams, you will see wingbacks and midfielders scoring regularly for Limerick. Not neccesarily a complaint, but it's a sign that the forward line really isn't bursting with firepower.

Don't necessarily agree with that though. Just because John Allen decided on a certain tactic in 2013 does not mean that we are lacking... in fact, Allen left off arguably our two best forwards from the starting team, one of whom is our top scorer from play this year. In 2012, he was more adventurous and we scored loads of goals.

And Limerick blew away a team the last time they met a non top team... Clare didn't blow anyone away last year (maybe Laois), neither did Cork.. and are we saying that they don't have firepower?

Downes, Dowling & Mulcahy are all goal threats. Whether we play a system which accommodates them maximising that potential is a totally different matter... but we should have been more clinical against Cork for sure, we seemed content to take the points up until it was too late.

Wexford's forwards are very good and they have been creating goal chances in every game they've played, including the Dublin game. Very hard to deal with, and though Limerick always bring great fight and intensity, I would have to question their defense this year. Some of the goals conceded (2ND V Tipp and both of Cork's) leave a lot to be desired in my opinion from the players mostly, but also management in their naivety.

Wexford did tire I think yesterday against Waterford and that could be an issue. They barely hit a wide for so long it seemed in that game but somehow ended up with 16. That is their achilles heel.

Would agree with us conceding bad goals against Cork/Tipp, that's for certain. Way too much space offered against Cork in particular, the goals were coming.


And Wexford's wide count is a huge weakness... despite having some great forward play, they haven't managed a score bigger than Limerick in 70 mins in any of their games to date.



It'll be a great contest.

bruschi

Fireball07 wrote: »

They did beat Clare with 15 in the end... obviously Clare were tired and playing poorly, but Wexford still had to beat them. It's oddly similar to Clare's run last year... people were still picking faults with them right up until the final, but they won the All-Ireland. I don't think Wexford are quite on that level, but momentum is powerful... I think it's lucky that Limerick meet them now tbh.

We should have more experience & guile, but does our management team have that??




Don't necessarily agree with that though. Just because John Allen decided on a certain tactic in 2013 does not mean that we are lacking... in fact, Allen left off arguably our two best forwards from the starting team, one of whom is our top scorer from play this year. In 2012, he was more adventurous and we scored loads of goals.

And Limerick blew away a team the last time they met a non top team... Clare didn't blow anyone away last year (maybe Laois), neither did Cork.. and are we saying that they don't have firepower?

Downes, Dowling & Mulcahy are all goal threats. Whether we play a system which accommodates them maximising that potential is a totally different matter... but we should have been more clinical against Cork for sure, we seemed content to take the points up until it was too late.




Would agree with us conceding bad goals against Cork/Tipp, that's for certain. Way too much space offered against Cork in particular, the goals were coming.


And Wexford's wide count is a huge weakness... despite having some great forward play, they haven't managed a score bigger than Limerick in 70 mins in any of their games to date.



It'll be a great contest.

Wexford scored 5-19 in their opening game this year

Rightwing

If Limerick can't win this one, I'll give up.

Browney7

Tickets.ie are saying both stands are sold out.

There will be some crowd at this game!

sjb25

Browney7 wrote: »

Tickets.ie are saying both stands are sold out.

There will be some crowd at this game!

Yep goin mad for tickets in wexford here got mine anyway and I know good few who have terrace so it must be sellin well also goin to be a massive crowd like Nowlan park can't wait

thesamster

Tickets were on sale last week . Not fair on Wexford people when they had to play Waterford first before buying a ticket.

sjb25

thesamster wrote: »

Tickets were on sale last week . Not fair on Wexford people when they had to play Waterford first before buying a ticket.

Got ours online on the way home from Kilkenny but agree with you but still some will be on sale in wexford park tommorow but I'd go early they say on Facebook they will have a certain amount of stand tickets available

sjb25

http://www.wexfordgaa.ie/2014/07/ticket-sales-suspended/ be the holy madness

thesamster

Got mine . From tipp myself but great to see things going well for Wexford . Ye will bring big numbers on Sunday . It will be almost full I hope . Good weather too . Real championship Sunday ahead hopefully . Good luck

bennyl10

Theyd hardly realistically move it to croker?,.
And if stands are sold.out.. surely that means all seats are taken and more cant be added..

slegs

Not a chance it will be moved at this stage. Logistical nightmare for those already with tickets.

They missed their chance to have it in Croke Park when setting the fixture. Was always going to be well attended with Limerick Tipp and Dublin bringing decent crowds before it was even decided between Wex and Wat

sjb25

slegs wrote: »

Not a chance it will be moved at this stage. Logistical nightmare for those already with tickets.

They missed their chance to have it in Croke Park when setting the fixture. Was always going to be well attended with Limerick Tipp and Dublin bringing decent crowds before it was even decided between Wex and Wat

No not a chance I'd say but that what wexford gaa say iv mine anyway garth brooks all over again

Copper_pipe

Both terraces still available on tickets.ie now. Got my town end ticket this morning

slegs

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Both terraces still available on tickets.ie now. Got my town end ticket this morning

Not for long once the Wexford panic sets in thanks to their secretary

Mountainlad

The stands will probably sell out so. I'd say some of the Dublin allocation will come back, but obviously there is fierce demand in Wexford, how much does the stand hold, about 20,000 between the two?

Could be 40,000 at this game yet, would be some turnout.

Copper_pipe

Mountainlad wrote: »

The stands will probably sell out so. I'd say some of the Dublin allocation will come back, but obviously there is fierce demand in Wexford, how much does the stand hold, about 20,000 between the two?

Could be 40,000 at this game yet, would be some turnout.

Wikipedia says 26000 seated.

Apparently Limerick are in the killinan end?

bennyl10

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Wikipedia says 26000 seated.

Apparently Limerick are in the killinan end?

From where?

Fireball07

bruschi wrote: »

Wexford scored 5-19 in their opening game this year

I stand corrected. My apologies.

marco_polo

Its great that it looks like the QFs will have a serious attendance for the first time in ages. Not too sure about this one but I think Limerick probably have the slight edge and will win by a couple of points in the end.

I'd have both provincial champions as the clear favourites for the AI, but I'd really love to see whoever wins this game go all the way.

gizmo23

Just posted on the limerick forum but there is a whole war going on in wexford we received 2,000 stand tickets with nearly 10 times that looking for tickets

This is going to rumble on for next 36- 48 hours..

Grats

Surely the capacity number of tickets would have been divided equally amongst the four participating counties? If that's not the case then Wexford should object. Doesn't make sense.

washman3

Should be switched to Pairc Ui Chaoimh...
No horsefair in Buttevant this weekend..:D

purplepanda

gizmo23 wrote: »

Just posted on the limerick forum but there is a whole war going on in wexford we received 2,000 stand tickets with nearly 10 times that looking for tickets

This is going to rumble on for next 36- 48 hours..

So which terrace are WX supporters supposed to buy tickets for? Limerick get the Town end I presume?

Not bothered about the seats but would prefer to be with fellow fans at least.

Also stories going around that tickets were on sale last week before the WX v WT game was even started? :mad:

I'm guessing we WX should but tickets for the Tipp home end?

Fireball07

Grats wrote: »

Surely the capacity number of tickets would have been divided equally amongst the four participating counties? If that's not the case then Wexford should object. Doesn't make sense.

I imagine the allocated tickets would have to be equal, but there are a lot on sale online/in centra/super valu.

The Letheram

Supervalu and tickets.ie having them before the CLUBS in the counties participating is a joke. God forbid playing or paid up members get first pick.

katcha

Wexford poster,

Yes they went On sale before the wex v wat game was played.
And the tickets have not been divided out equally among all participating teams.
A lot of honest attending wexford fans are missing out now through no fault of their own, it's a disgrace.

Fireball07

katcha wrote: »

Wexford poster,

Yes they went On sale before the wex v wat game was played.
And the tickets have not been divided out equally among all participating teams.
A lot of honest attending wexford fans are missing out now through no fault of their own, it's a disgrace.

Is this true? That's not on tbh, should be equally divided and if allocation isn't used, they could be returned.

gizmo23

Being honest it has been a total screw up along the line as I don't think anyone outside of wexford was expecting this demand of tickets.

It is a needless distraction for a AI qf... Best of luck to all limerick fans if you beat us which I think ye will I will be roaring ye on to win an all Ireland

gizmo23

Being honest it has been a total screw up along the line as I don't think anyone outside of wexford was expecting this demand of tickets.

It is a needless distraction for a AI qf... Best of luck to all limerick fans if you beat us which I think ye will I will be roaring ye on to win an all Ireland

savannahkat

It is a needless distraction for a AI qf... Best of luck to all limerick fans if you beat us which I think ye will I will be roaring ye on to win an all Ireland[/QUOTE]
Now. now Gizmo don't be forgetting what province you are from:eek:

glued

Wexford trying to get the game switched to Croke Park. A bit late in the day for that tbh. The GAA have been selling tickets since last Tuesday. If the demand was there the GAA should of put one game on Saturday and one on Sunday.

shmeee

katcha wrote: »

Wexford poster,

Yes they went On sale before the wex v wat game was played.
And the tickets have not been divided out equally among all participating teams.
A lot of honest attending wexford fans are missing out now through no fault of their own, it's a disgrace.

Stand tickets are not sold out, the stand tickets that went on general sale are. All the clubs still have tickets to distribute around and county boards likewise. A few thousand go on general sale online and in the shops. The rest go to clubs.

Many people are over reacting in a big way. Anyone that wants to be at the match on Sunday will be. It won't be a sell out.

Last years 1/4 finals in Thurles involving Cork, Kilkenny, Galway and Clare pulled in only 34,000. So add in another 10,000 max, still way below capacity.

The Letheram

shmeee wrote: »

Stand tickets are not sold out, the stand tickets that went on general sale are. All the clubs still have tickets to distribute around and county boards likewise. A few thousand go on general sale online and in the shops. The rest go to clubs.

Many people are over reacting in a big way. Anyone that wants to be at the match on Sunday will be. It won't be a sell out.

Last years 1/4 finals in Thurles involving Cork, Kilkenny, Galway and Clare pulled in only 34,000. So add in another 10,000 max, still way below capacity.

What is Thurles Capacity as a matter of interest?
Wexford Co. board have warned clubs that their allocation may be onpy half of what they ordered. We are a very small rural club and have phoned in an order for 130 tickets. As far as I know we are the smallest parish in the county and have nobody on the panel.
Tickets are tight in the county.

sjb25

shmeee wrote: »

Stand tickets are not sold out, the stand tickets that went on general sale are. All the clubs still have tickets to distribute around and county boards likewise. A few thousand go on general sale online and in the shops. The rest go to clubs.

I think wexford county board are saying they don't have them to give to clubs that's the problem

bruschi

glued wrote: »

Wexford trying to get the game switched to Croke Park. A bit late in the day for that tbh. The GAA have been selling tickets since last Tuesday. If the demand was there the GAA should of put one game on Saturday and one on Sunday.

I think its stupid Wexford trying to get it changed, but I'd say its just posturing to get more tickets. But how can you say that the GAA were selling them since last Tuesday and if the demand was there? Wexford werent even qualified last Tuesday when the venue and times were announced along with the start of the sale of tickets. Wexford are creating the demand.

shmeee wrote: »

Stand tickets are not sold out, the stand tickets that went on general sale are. All the clubs still have tickets to distribute around and county boards likewise. A few thousand go on general sale online and in the shops. The rest go to clubs.

Many people are over reacting in a big way. Anyone that wants to be at the match on Sunday will be. It won't be a sell out.

Last years 1/4 finals in Thurles involving Cork, Kilkenny, Galway and Clare pulled in only 34,000. So add in another 10,000 max, still way below capacity.

clubs in Wexford have orders in for 5,000 stand tickets. They have been given 2,000. That doesnt make much sense to me, especially considering there was well over 15,000 Wexford fans at their last 2 games.

twistyj

Does a standard ticket for €20 cover both games?

DaveR1

bruschi wrote: »

Considering there was well over 15,000 Wexford fans at their last 2 games.

Don't know where you are pulling this figure from - official attendance last saturday was 18,964.

Thurles will not be full at the weekend, everyone will get a ticket and the atmosphere will be great. If it was in Croke Park, the stadium would be half full and lifeless. The atmosphere in Thurles will be unreal, 3 matches full stadium, sun shining. What more could you want!!!

vicwatson

The Letheram wrote: »

What is Thurles Capacity as a matter of interest?
Wexford Co. board have warned clubs that their allocation may be onpy half of what they ordered. We are a very small rural club and have phoned in an order for 130 tickets. As far as I know we are the smallest parish in the county and have nobody on the panel.
Tickets are tight in the county.

Rte says its 53,500 capacity

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/2014/0722/632290-wexford-want-quarter-finals-switched-to-croke-park/

Cant see how everyone cant be accommodated in the next biggest ground after croker.

I think it'll stay in Thurles

Soulcrew09

Cant bate a Gaa bandwagon, where were all these Wexford fans for the last 10 years?

They only want it moved to Croker cause they couldn't get refund from the hotels they booked for Garth Brooks that weekend

T0001

Semple Stadium Capacity - 53,500

glued

Soulcrew09 wrote: »

Cant bate a Gaa bandwagon, where were all these Wexford fans for the last 10 years?

They only want it moved to Croker cause they couldn't get refund from the hotels they booked for Garth Brooks that weekend

There was something like 300 Wexford fans in Cusack Park. Bandwagon indeed.

gizmo23

There were 700 at the clare match in ennis well that was the number of tickets purchased in wexford..

This has no chance of being moved and rightly so Thurles is the home of the QFs and has been for a long time.

I think the main issue here has been the allocation to wexford compared to the allocation of gaa.ie and supervalue it would seem there was a faux pas and the wrong number were sent out. Also why were they on sale online when the fourth team was yet to be knowin.

If your from wexford and havent got a ticket i would be trying anyone you know in tipp and limerick as word on the grapvine is dublin have got less then us.

Tombo2001

Rightwing wrote: »

If Limerick can't win this one, I'll give up.

Thats a bit harsh on Wexford.....