The Sunday Game Thread

Harry Angstrom

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Aye I'm taking the pish there but it's probably fair to say not all of these lads will make the NFL? Also hear it isn't selling well at the moment?

I'm not surprised the tickets aren't selling well. I made the mistake of staying up to watch the Superbowl a few years back. The last ten minutes took about an hour to play. Mind-numbingly boring shyte. To think that the GAA have jettisoned our native game to host that rubbish truly beggars belief.

At this particular moment, the words of the great prophetess and sage, Jessie J, come to mind......

It seems like everybody's got a price
I wonder how they sleep at night
When the sale comes first and the truth comes
second
Just stop for a minute and smile.........

ProudDUB

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

I'm not surprised the tickets aren't selling well. I made the mistake of staying up to watch the Superbowl a few years back. The last ten minutes took about an hour to play. Mind-numbingly boring shyte. To think that the GAA have jettisoned our native game to host that rubbish truly beggars belief.

That is a wee bit reactionary & close minded, no? Lots of Americans think that soccer is about as interesting as watching paint dry, as pretty much eff all happens for 90 minutes. Each to his own and all that. If the GAA can make a few bob out of renting out Croke Park to "foreign" games, then fair play to them. That money will trickle down to players and clubs eventually & that is what matters imo.

So what if the native Irish aren't going to go the Croke Park Classic? We are not their target market. The thousands of Yanks who are coming from the US are. As long as the All Ireland series is not overly impacted by "foreign" games that are played in Croke Park, I couldn't care less what goes on there. But once it does, its time to have a serious rethink. That is why I was very glad to see Liam O'Neill declare today that no more American football games will be played there in July or August. By all means, bring them back next year, but do it Oct-December when nothing else is going on at Croker.

Harry Angstrom

ProudDUB wrote: »

That is a wee bit reactionary & close minded, no? Lots of Americans think that soccer is about as interesting as watching paint dry, as pretty much eff all happens for 90 minutes. Each to his own and all that. If the GAA can make a few bob out of renting out Croke Park to "foreign" games, then fair play to them. That money will trickle down to players and clubs eventually & that is what matters imo.

So what if the native Irish aren't going to go the Croke Park Classic? We are not their target market. The thousands of Yanks who are coming from the US are. As long as the All Ireland series is not overly impacted by "foreign" games that are played in Croke Park, I couldn't care less what goes on there. But once it does, its time to have a serious rethink. That is why I was very glad to see Liam O'Neill declare today that no more American football games will be played there in July or August. By all means, bring them back next year, but do it Oct-December when nothing else is going on at Croker.

The fact that the GAA were prepared to host this rubbish during the most important time of the Championship year says plenty about their money grabbing philosophy.
It should not be forgotten that the GAA received millions from the Irish taxpayer towards the structural development of Croke Park, to promote Gaelic games; not to promote American Football and not to promote Gareth Brukes either.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

The fact that the GAA were prepared to host this rubbish during the most important time of the Championship year says plenty about their money grabbing philosophy.
It should not be forgotten that the GAA received millions from the Irish taxpayer towards the structural development of Croke Park, to promote Gaelic games; not to promote American Football and not to promote Gareth Brukes either.

The GAA have probably earned back more money for the Irish tax payer by having the gridiron game than would have been earned by hosting the Kerry Mayo match in Croke Park and the Mayo Kerry match goes ahead and generates bucket loads for Limericks economy.Surely the GAA's "money grabbing philosophy" helps ensure that less taxpayer funding is needed in future.

It was a mistake to have this clash of fixtures occur but don't be going overboard about it and it could easily have been avoided if the GAA just delayed each AI final by a week.

Redsoxfan

ProudDUB wrote: »

But once it does, its time to have a serious rethink. That is why I was very glad to see Liam O'Neill declare today that no more American football games will be played there in July or August. By all means, bring them back next year, but do it Oct-December when nothing else is going on at Croker.

Really? because in today's Irish Times, Keith Duggan says that there is already a game scheduled for August 2017 and the plan is to have one every other year.

There is no competitive American Football played at College or Pro level in July, so we're safe enough. But, from the same piece linked to above, it seems that only the first game of the College season can be played overseas and so that will be late August or early September.

I think it's crazy to schedule anything in Croke Park over a weekend in August or September other than a GAA match. The Irish economy would benefit just as much if American Football was played in the Avivia in August/September - I would be very surprised if the attendance will be more than that which attended Notre Dame v Navy in the Aviva back in 2012, and that had was part of 'The Gathering'.

The last time a College game was played in Croke Park was 1996 and that involved Notre Dame. The attendance was less than 40,000. Penn State are currently under sanctions for some pretty serious issues. The game is starting at 8.30am East Coast time in the US. I really wonder how much exposure Croke Park/the GAA will get from this.

You can of course argue that hosting this game in Croke Park has a financial benefit for the GAA. But so would selling the naming rights of Croke Park. Or any other number of commerical ventures you could care to name. Given that Croke Park has a full time commercial director nothing that happens in the future would surprise me.

theoneeyedman

Just a few comments on the coverage of the game in limerick yesterday.
1. Obviously Mary and Tommy are a pain in the hole. Tommy continued contention that "tactics have gone out the window" was repeated ad nausea.
2. Very poor commentary of what was happening re:teams etc. 2 bloodbsubs on for mayo at one stage and boys hadn't a clue. Changes galore on start of extra time and during it and boys couldn't follow it. Surely place for a sideline reporter.
3. Little comment on referees performance, save colm o rourke constant cheerleading for fellow meath man reilly.
4. Airbrushing the crowd control issues at the end.

randd1

It seems Marty Morrissey is the main commentator for RTE for the GAA this year.

Have to say, he's an insufferable bore who makes my bollocks sick as a commentator. You have to admit (and admire) that he has a great enthusiasm for the sports, but he is a shocking commentator and adds absolutely nothing to the viewing experience, and there surely has to be someone better out there.

P_Cash

randd1 wrote: »

It seems Marty Morrissey is the main commentator for RTE for the GAA this year.

Have to say, he's an insufferable bore who makes my bollocks sick as a commentator. You have to admit (and admire) that he has a great enthusiasm for the sports, but he is a shocking commentator and adds absolutely nothing to the viewing experience, and there surely has to be someone better out there.

Thank god it's Darren maloney for the donegal game

Dirty Dingus McGee

I might watch todays match on RTE as Darragh Maloney is commentating but I honetsly think that Sky's coverage is a lot better than RTE.

McIntyre is a better commentator than Marty Morrissey,Paul Early is miles better than Tommy Carr,Rachel Wyse is a better anchor than Lyster,the pundits are easier to listen to and discuss the games without petty bickering and have some basic manners which is sadly lacking from one of RTE's panel.

Sky's coverage may not be perfect but it's well ahead of RTE for me.

randd1

randd1 wrote: »

It seems Marty Morrissey is the main commentator for RTE for the GAA this year.

Have to say, he's an insufferable bore who makes my bollocks sick as a commentator. You have to admit (and admire) that he has a great enthusiasm for the sports, but he is a shocking commentator and adds absolutely nothing to the viewing experience, and there surely has to be someone better out there.

Let's hope he doesn't get the hurling final next week. His sucking up to Brian Cody and Kilkenny and cheerleading for them has got to embarrassing levels since Cody nailed him in the interview after the final a few years back.

My respect for Cody went up ten-fold that day.

Clonmel1000

Actually that was about the only time Marty ever asked a hard question. Cody as is his want bullied him. I agree with the substantial point though Marty is awful actually I don't know of anyone who likes him as a commentator.

Mountainlad

Personally think Maloney is biased when it comes to Dublin.

Have to say I really enjoyed the respective montages in the build up with the interviews. Really helped build the atmosphere.

Itssoeasy

Sure some Cubans might have played football pat.

Harry Angstrom

Anyone know why Ger Canning is doing more radio commentaries these days instead of his usual TV commentaries? Has he been "demoted"?

Frankie Lee

Ger Canning will do both finals without doubt. Another area where RTE falls down badly is the failure to display the subs that have been made. It was particularly noticeable yesterday evening with Morrissey being unable to inform the viewers of subs being made. Sky display the subs list before the game too which is helpful considering there is usually around 10 to come on.

padd b1975

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Anyone know why Ger Canning is doing more radio commentaries these days instead of his usual TV commentaries? Has he been "demoted"?

He's a complete disaster on the radio, someone needs to tell him that there's a much more descriptive commentary required when doing radio.

sammy37

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I might watch todays match on RTE as Darragh Maloney is commentating but I honetsly think that Sky's coverage is a lot better than RTE.

McIntyre is a better commentator than Marty Morrissey,Paul Early is miles better than Tommy Carr,Rachel Wyse is a better anchor than Lyster,the pundits are easier to listen to and discuss the games without petty bickering and have some basic manners which is sadly lacking from one of RTE's panel.

Sky's coverage may not be perfect but it's well ahead of RTE for me.

Would totally agree with this.I watched a replay of kerry mayo match this morning on Sky and found it much easier on the ears than marty and carr who were unbearable at times and also lost in extra time trying to figure out who was on and off. Also the analysis was much better from D. O Se and Senan connell. Having to listen spillane and brolly today talking over each other made me switch over to hymns of praise for peace.

theoneeyedman

Again, a few observations on today:
1. As mentioned earlier, lack of clarity on changes, subs etc. A good sideline reporter in touch with the benches badly needed.
2. Kickouts missed during replays...time and time again. With kickouts so important to team strategy this is bad. If you need replays, use a split screen but show the restarts.
3. I'm not a fan of Carney, but today he really got on my tits. When Donegal got on top, he kept slagging off the Dublin players by claiming Dublin players were believing their own hype, and gloating in their defeat to his own county. Very insulting to Dublin players who in the end don't write the **** written about them. In fairness they were very good champions and were a credit to themselves, and only lost to a better team in the end

keeponhurling

What was D.Maloney saying that donegal would be very satisfied to be around 5 points down at that stage, does he know something I don't ?

Thought the view was the dubs had a stringed bench so donegal would need to build up a lead ?

Agree with the above, insulting to say players believed their own hype, they can't control what's written about them

Nib

Neill Gallagher not even nominated for MOTM? Unbelievable.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Nib wrote: »

Neill Gallagher not even nominated for MOTM? Unbelievable.

I'd have given him the MOTM he was brilliant.

keeponhurling

Who got it, McHugh ?

Mountainlad

McHugh got it yeah.

Was it just online or did they go to ad break there with Des mid speech on tv?

Itssoeasy

Mountainlad wrote: »

McHugh got it yeah.

Was it just online or did they go to ad break there with Des mid speech on tv?

Happened on TV.

nice_guy80

Martin Carney shouldn't be allowed near games, especially those involving Mayo or Donegal. He's from both counties!

The production standards need to be improved for live games. I'd argue TG4 is more polished.

patsyrockem

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I'd have given him the MOTM he was brilliant.

Can't believe he wasn't MOM not to mind not being nominated, where was MD all day? The analysts on Friday who said that he wouldn't have the legs for MD did not take into account that MD is useless without the ball:rolleyes: And possession
is what it is. It was a good a performance from a midfielder that I have ever seen, he ran the show.

Brian017

The Hurling final is on RTE One. Shame for Sky HD customers who don't subscribe to Sports and therefore now have no HD option.

It's on the main SS channel too and not SS3

Mountainlad

Brian017 wrote: »

The Hurling final is on RTE One. Shame for Sky HD customers who don't subscribe to Sports and therefore now have no HD option.

It's on the main SS channel too and not SS3

How come?

Brian017

Mountainlad wrote: »

How come?

There's an Euro 2016 Qualifier on Two at half 4

elguapo

Whoever picked James O'Donoghue as MOTM on Saturday should be banned from doing so in future.
Don't get me wrong, JOD had a fine game, but David Moran, Kieran Donaghy and Cillian O'Connor were outstanding.
I realise it's not important in the grand scheme of things, but it really did smack of "ah, just give it to the lad who scored the most".