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Can a woman rape a man?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Unless penetrating him with an object is considered rape, no.

    Being penetrated (with a penis) against a person's will is the act of rape


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,225 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Mr.McLovin wrote: »
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2600488/Sex-crazed-Angelina-Jolie-lookalike-given-suspended-sentence-forcing-taxi-driver-sex-twice-stabbing-not-manage-time.html



    yes yes I know its the daily mail but serious question can a woman rape a man?

    I know she could force him to so certain sexual acts but I think serious stage fright would kick in despite if she actually looked like angelia jolie (which in this article she clearly does not!)

    Nice!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭MonstaMash


    Sits back, grabs large drink & popcorn & waits...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Of course a woman can rape a man. Any one that says it can't happen is pretty crazy. Though was it not true that for a long time in this country it was said that it wasn't rape if the man being raped had an erection.

    Completely ignoring the fact that she raped somebody or even that she threatened them at knifepoint, she also stabbed them, the fact that she received a suspended sentence is just batsh*t.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    efb wrote: »
    Unless penetrating him with an object is considered rape, no.

    Being penetrated (with a penis) is the act of rape

    What a stupid and incorrect comment. One that even the laziest of googling shows up the post for its sheer level of ignorance and stupidity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭Immaculata


    Short answer: Yes, she can.

    Shorter answer: Duh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭The Th!ng


    It all depends on the size of her clit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,294 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    She doesn't look anything like Angelina Jolie?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Rape under section 4 .

    4.—(1) In this Act “rape under section 4 ” means a sexual assault that includes—

    (a) penetration (however slight) of the anus or mouth by the penis, or

    (b) penetration (however slight) of the vagina by any object held or manipulated by another person.

    (2) A person guilty of rape under section 4 shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for life.

    (3) Rape under section 4 shall be a felony.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Rape isn't sticking your thing in another person's thing.
    It's the sexual violation that counts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,127 ✭✭✭kjl


    I used to go out with this girl and the first night we were out together we went back to her place. We were fooling around but as I didn't have a condom I didn't want to have sex.

    I kept saying no but she wouldn't take no for an answer and literally forced me inside of her.


    It was the hottest thing that has ever happened to me :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Maybe she can, maybe she can't.

    But regardless of the law, it should be at least frowned upon in polite society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭emeldc


    Angelina Jolie lookalike ? Caroline Morohan looking for a bit more publicity again :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Mr.McLovin


    Immaculata wrote: »
    Short answer: Yes, she can.

    Shorter answer: Duh.

    intercourse though?
    The Th!ng wrote: »
    It all depends on the size of her clit.

    :pac:
    MadYaker wrote: »
    She doesn't like anything like Angelina Jolie?

    I don't see it, not saying she is not attractive but sort of besides the point


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Gee_G


    I'd imagine(or like to think) that once a person(man or woman) is forced to partake in an act of sexual nature against their will would be considered rape?? No?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles


    If she looks like Angelina Jolie then I'm a double for Kate Middleton!!

    (Not getting into a debate over, but yes, they can)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    She does look a bit like Lara Croft alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭YellowFeather


    "She stabbed him more than half a dozen stab times". Stab times are the WORST times to be stabbed!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    efb wrote: »
    Rape under section 4 .

    4.—(1) In this Act “rape under section 4 ” means a sexual assault that includes—

    (a) penetration (however slight) of the anus or mouth by the penis, or

    (b) penetration (however slight) of the vagina by any object held or manipulated by another person.

    (2) A person guilty of rape under section 4 shall be liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for life.

    (3) Rape under section 4 shall be a felony.

    You do realise how stupid this post is, right?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Gee_G wrote: »
    I'd imagine(or like to think) that once a person(man or woman) is forced to partake in an act of sexual nature against their will would be considered rape?? No?

    No. "Rape" is a legal term, and whatever you or I think about what it means, it is irrelevant when it comes to the law.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    You do realise how stupid this post is, right?

    What, showing how rape is defined in Irish law?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭jigglypuffstuff


    am I the only one thinking I WOULD!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    If she ties him up and he says no, even if he has an erection, it's rape.

    The fact that some part of his body wants it does not prevent him from saying "no". His erection is an autonomic process, it is not a representation of his best judgement.

    There are any number of ways that men can get erections.

    And think about it. You know about "morning wood", right? Well, if she jumped on him then and he said "no" that is rape.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    efb wrote: »
    What, showing how rape is defined in Irish law?

    Yes, do you know why that is stupid, in this context?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    You do realise how stupid this post is, right?
    What's stupid about it?

    From a legal perspective in Ireland, a woman cannot rape a man.

    I have argued in the past that the law could be interpreted to mean that involuntary penetration by a man could be considered rape, but apparently the courts take a different tack, and a woman cannot legally be charged with rape against a man, in Ireland.

    Which reflects a common attitude which considers rape to be something only men are capable of, whereas women only commit the lesser crime of sexual assault, and rarely at that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    seamus wrote: »
    What's stupid about it?

    From a legal perspective in Ireland, a woman cannot rape a man.

    I have argued in the past that the law could be interpreted to mean that involuntary penetration by a man could be considered rape, but apparently the courts take a different tack, and a woman cannot legally be charged with rape against a man, in Ireland.

    Which reflects a common attitude which considers rape to be something only men are capable of, whereas women only commit the lesser crime of sexual assault, and rarely at that.

    Can a woman rape a man in Ireland? Not stupid to use Irish law.

    Can a woman rape a man? Very very stupid to use Irish law as gospel.

    Can you see this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Mr.McLovin


    seamus wrote: »
    From a legal perspective in Ireland, a woman cannot rape a man.

    well that's half my answer...

    now the mechanics of it, nah I'm not sure its physically possible to force a man into an erection if the laws were changed anyways, hard to know really (no pun intended)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Can a woman rape a man? Very very stupid to use Irish law as gospel.
    Since "rape" is a legal term, how can you say it's stupid to include a discussion of the law in a discussion about what "rape" is?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    seamus wrote: »
    Since "rape" is a legal term, how can you say it's stupid to include a discussion of the law in a discussion about what "rape" is?

    No, it isn't. Its not exclusively legal. Nor is this an exclusive Irish question. Jesus Christ, use common sense...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    Is raping your wife ok?

    Well, allow me to quote Saudi law. Therefore its clearly ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Mr.McLovin wrote: »
    well that's half my answer...

    now the mechanics of it, nah I'm not sure its physically possible to force a man into an erection if the laws were changed anyways, hard to know really (no pun intended)

    A sneeky finger up the stinker and trust me you won't have a choice it will be up end of discussion, doctors even use that for medical exams.

    Rape is defined here http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rape?s=t

    A woman can rape a man. In Ireland they cannot be charged with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    GarIT wrote: »
    A sneeky finger up the stinker and trust me you won't have a choice it will be up end of discussion, doctors even use that for medical exams.

    Rape is defined here http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rape?s=t

    A woman can rape a man. In Ireland they cannot be charged with it.

    Thank you. Well put.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    I also believe a male being assaulted with a dildo anally would be rape by definition, but not a crime under Irish law.

    Two other points, a man doesn't need to be erect for intercourse and if a man was forced to do the work at knifepoint or gunpoint by definition it would be rape by definition but by law it would not be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    I would consider any direct sexual act without consent rape, regardless of what the law says.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    The definition of rape is one of the most appallingly badly written laws there is. Rape should mean intercourse of any kind where any party does not consent, end of story. Penetration is irrelevant - if you're being made to have sex that you haven't consented to, you're being raped.

    In that context, a man or a woman can rape a man or a woman - if any of them don't consent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Forgetting the rape part... stabbings, multiple stabbings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    You do realise how stupid this post is, right?

    To be fair it's not the post that's stupid but the law.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Rape is forcing someone to have sex against their will - gender doesn't matter. The law doesn't recognise this though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    GarIT wrote: »
    I also believe a male being assaulted with a dildo anally would be rape by definition, but not a crime under Irish law.

    Surely in the example you give there is assault, sexual assault and possibly wounding involved - all covered by statute.

    Otherwise we'd all be reaching for the dildos at closing time and the Garda couldn't touch us, unless similarly armed :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭orangesoda


    If it was an auld heffer trying to ride you i suppose but i can't imagine getting erect in that situation and so intercourse wouldn't be possible, if an attractive woman was being rough with me i would imagine i would find it a major turn on (with no weapons though)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    In Rescue Me, Dennis Leary got raped by his ex when she spiked him with rohypnol and viagra so I guess that is possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    The law in Romania must be worse than ours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Maphisto wrote: »
    Surely in the example you give there is assault, sexual assault and possibly wounding involved - all covered by statute.

    Otherwise we'd all be reaching for the dildos at closing time and the Garda couldn't touch us, unless similarly armed :)

    I meant not the crime of rape and two years possibly suspended is nothing on 10 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Chazz Michael Michaels


    To be fair it's not the post that's stupid but the law.

    Its both. The question is fairly universal and the attempted answer was to quote the law of some backwater.

    Like I said, is it ok to rape your wife? Well, Saudi thinks its grand, so it must be ok. Case closed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    orangesoda wrote: »
    If it was an auld heffer trying to ride you i suppose but i can't imagine getting erect in that situation and so intercourse wouldn't be possible, if an attractive woman was being rough with me i would imagine i would find it a major turn on
    If you were spiked with viagra though? I know that sounds funny but it's not uncommon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    orangesoda wrote: »
    If it was an auld heffer trying to ride you i suppose but i can't imagine getting erect in that situation and so intercourse wouldn't be possible, if an attractive woman was being rough with me i would imagine i would find it a major turn on

    There was a actually a U.S marine who was raped by a pregnant woman after she drugged him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Maphisto


    GarIT wrote: »
    I meant not the crime of rape and two years possibly suspended is nothing on 10 years.

    Yes the definition of the offence of rape here is out of date and inadequate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭Medusa22


    I'm of the opinion (and people will disagree) that a woman can rape a man if she drugs him and has sex with him or threatens him physically with a weapon and has sex with him or if she penetrates him with an object or a strap on. In other circumstances, I don't think it is rape.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 369 ✭✭Friend Computer


    Its both. The question is fairly universal and the attempted answer was to quote the law of some backwater.

    Like I said, is it ok to rape your wife? Well, Saudi thinks its grand, so it must be ok. Case closed.

    You mean the country this site is based in, most of its users are from and the perspective from which many discussions take place?


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