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I dont watch any tv services in Ireland....

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    #182
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Kaiser2000 wrote: »
    But, I already pay for RTE regardless via my UPC subscription, and I pay for my broadband through that as well - as well as the VAT on both.

    You don't pay for RTÉ via UPC or any pay provider.


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    #183
    Fred Swanson
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    #184
    7upfree
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    Elmo wrote: »
    RTÉ are independent of the government.
    :D


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    #185
    7upfree
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    Mr Pseudonym wrote: »
    I imagine you don't believe that, though; you accept that RTE can only compete in some areas.

    RTE is not the BBC. Ergo they should not be "competing". They are a Public Service broadcaster, with grossly overpaid DJs and stars which are no better than chatty presenters.

    They have a defined income. And should cut their expenditure accordingly.

    They should not be dual funded.

    And the taxpayer should certainly not be expected to fund minority interests such as orchestras and choirs.


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    #186
    Elmo
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    7upfree wrote: »
    And the taxpayer should certainly not be expected to fund minority interests such as orchestras and choirs.

    Indeed close down all Libraries, museums and other such lark.


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    #187
    7upfree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    Elmo wrote: »
    Indeed close down all Libraries, museums and other such lark.

    Big difference. The money that RTE squanders is truly astonishing. These are niche interests with little or general audience appeal or use.


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    #188
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    7upfree wrote: »
    Big difference. The money that RTE squanders is truly astonishing. These are niche interests with little or general audience appeal or use.

    How much tax payers money is wasted on libraries filled with DVDs and ps3 games? And art ****ing museums and a ****ing national theatre?


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    #189
    JohnDx
    Registered Users Posts: 72 ✭✭JohnDx


    What if you have more than one TV, in my house there are 5 TV's, so am I supposed to pay a licence for each or what?
    :cool:


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    #190
    Mr Pseudonym
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭Mr Pseudonym


    JohnDx wrote: »
    What if you have more than one TV, in my house there are 5 TV's, so am I supposed to pay a licence for each or what?
    :cool:

    Under the new system?

    As it currently stands, only each address need have a TV License regardless of the number of televisions - which the hotel industry is lobbying to remain the case.


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    #191
    7upfree
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    Elmo wrote: »
    How much tax payers money is wasted on libraries filled with DVDs and ps3 games? And art ****ing museums and a ****ing national theatre?

    Are they also in receipt of advertising revenue? Are some of their employees on €600k? Well?


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    #192
    7upfree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    Kaiser2000 wrote: »
    Anyway..............

    I could quite happily do without RTE, TV3, TG4, RTE radio, and their websites.

    Anything on RTE/TV3 that I might watch I can get much earlier from my US cousins, I don't speak Irish and have no desire to learn, and RTE News I consider to be propaganda for the government of the day (which is unsurprising considering who appoints the board and pays the bills) so if they all shut down in the morning I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

    But, I already pay for RTE regardless via my UPC subscription, and I pay for my broadband through that as well - as well as the VAT on both. When this Broadcasting Charge comes along it'll just be another example of double taxation that this country is so fond of - same thing as Water Charges which we already pay for in general taxation but will now pay separately for AS WELL

    To be fair though, given the Irish attitude of just bend over - unless it's threatening our drink or "right" to own property, it's not surprising that this stuff happens

    Would agree with most of the above.

    Regarding the property, the issue here is that people have bought and paid for their own house, paid VAT on it, stamp duty, and have not cost the State a penny to house. And they are punished for it.


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    #193
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    7upfree wrote: »
    Are they also in receipt of advertising revenue? Are some of their employees on €600k? Well?

    Sorry I didn't realise that we were talking about the whole organisation of RTÉ, I though we were talking about the elitism of the Concert Orchestras.


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    #194
    7upfree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    Elmo wrote: »
    Sorry I didn't realise that we were talking about the whole organisation of RTÉ, I though we were talking about the elitism of the Concert Orchestras.

    Two sides of the same coin.


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    #195
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    7upfree wrote: »
    Two sides of the same coin.

    So close the orchestras down or separate them?


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    #196
    7upfree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    Elmo wrote: »
    So close the orchestras down or separate them?

    close them.


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    #197
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    7upfree wrote: »
    close them.

    So close the libraries and museum also they waste taxpayers money, middle classes going around looking and reading oh how nice isn't this nice, nice doesn't get the bills paid.


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    #198
    MilanPan!c
    Site Banned Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭MilanPan!c


    Elmo wrote: »
    So close the libraries and museum also they waste taxpayers money, middle classes going around looking and reading oh how nice isn't this nice, nice doesn't get the bills paid.

    It's tough because I'm been to plenty of performances by the RTE Symphony and ... Meh.

    Plenty of orchestras these days survive on sponsorship and maybe they'd be forced to be better if they had to please someone.

    Endlessly playing music from movies, etc.... It doesn't help their case.


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