Sean Moncrieff - Newstalk

quintana76

alaimacerc wrote: »

I dunno which "the most extreme feminist" side is even supposed to be, in many cases. On transgender issues, for example.

Meaningless attempt at an adverse characterisation of anyone whose views are slightly more progressive than that of the reactionary speaker, perhaps?

His views are only progressive on the surface. Supporting oppressive and intolerant third wave feminism and on other occasions making excuses for Islam is by any definition regressive.

alaimacerc

quintana76 wrote: »

His views are only progressive on the surface. Supporting oppressive and intolerant third wave feminism and on other occasions making excuses for Islam is by any definition regressive.

i.e. progressive, by any objective political science criteria, but you don't like them being characterised in that manner. So will instead cobble together a more negative-sounding one, whether it makes sense or not.

Dub13

Tom in today, I wonder how many music slots he can get in.

whisky_galore

The International news slot makes for depressing listening.

quintana76

Jonathan deBurca Butler reminds me of the liberal in the Life of Brian who was distastefully handing out the crosses for the crucifixions and was about to let Eric Idle go.
His superior distaste for the banning of Muslim face coverings in schools in Norway was palpable. He claimed it was just a way of getting at the immigrants as well as assault on their civil rights.
In the same breath he said that even the far left had not voted against it. Amnesty international were against it though. There is one organisation that has lost it's way.
Prefers AA's view to that of an overwhelming vote in the Norwegian Parliament. How bourgeois of him.

Dub13

Music slot on now.

Tell me how

Dub13 wrote:

Tom in today, I wonder how many music slots he can get in.

Well he has his piece on a song being written. Fair play, he lives and breathes music.

alaimacerc

quintana76 wrote: »

Jonathan deBurca Butler reminds me of the liberal in the Life of Brian who was distastefully handing out the crosses for the crucifixions and was about to let Eric Idle go.

Hate-listening in again! Sure, you're missing Liveline and D'Arcy, y'know.

evolving_doors

quintana76 wrote: »

Jonathan deBurca Butler reminds me of the liberal in the Life of Brian who was distastefully handing out the crosses for the crucifixions and was about to let Eric Idle go.
His superior distaste for the banning of Muslim face coverings in schools in Norway was palpable. He claimed it was just a way of getting at the immigrants as well as assault on their civil rights.
In the same breath he said that even the far left had not voted against it. Amnesty international were against it though. There is one organisation that has lost it's way.
Prefers AA's view to that of an overwhelming vote in the Norwegian Parliament. How bourgeois of him.

Automobile Association?
Atheists and Agnostics?
Alcoholics Anonymous?

kunst nugget

quintana76 wrote: »

Jonathan deBurca Butler reminds me of the liberal in the Life of Brian who was distastefully handing out the crosses for the crucifixions and was about to let Eric Idle go.

:rolleyes:

quintana76

Liam Cunningham coming on next. Wonder what the topic of conversation will be? Not.
Must be getting worried about popular opinion. He will have a sympathetic ear in the studio and that's for sure.

Grolschevik

Excellent discussion on the concept and consequences of equality, there.

quintana76

Jonathan deBurca Butler was talking about a proposed burka ban in Quebec/Canada and how the legislation had to be finessed. He said 70% in Quebec supported the ban and and how very sad that is. He was speaking as if maintaining the burka was on an equivalence with gay rights or similar. He also assumes that all his listeners think the same way. His almost patrician arrogance and assumption can be very annoying. He works for the IT of course.

humberklog

Sean having a good pop at the Traveller advocacy lady there (Senator Collette Kelleher). Fair play to him.

Pussyhands

First post here but I used to see people raving about this show all the time saying it was the best etc.

So I gave it a listen. I think it's rubbish tbh. Mostly it's a friday when I get to listen to it....his "beers and movies" is just cringey.

And someone should tell Moncrief that reading out listeners text doesn't make you funny, the person sending the text was funny!

I find his voice terribly grating aswell.

jooksavage

Pussyhands wrote: »

First post here but I used to see people raving about this show all the time saying it was the best etc.

So I gave it a listen. I think it's rubbish tbh. Mostly it's a friday when I get to listen to it....his "beers and movies" is just cringey.

And someone should tell Moncrief that reading out listeners text doesn't make you funny, the person sending the text was funny!

I find his voice terribly grating aswell.

Ok I'll say it. I'm not a fan of Movies & Booze. Couldn't give a toss about beer or wine and Esther isn't the most engaging or knowledgeable film critic.

I think you're completely wrong on everything else though, 80% of the time his show is the best thing on radio.

quintana76

jooksavage wrote: »

Ok I'll say it. I'm not a fan of Movies & Booze. Couldn't give a toss about beer or wine and Esther isn't the most engaging or knowledgeable film critic.

I think you're completely wrong on everything else though, 80% of the time his show is the best thing on radio.

Agree with both statements with the qualification that he can be very sneery sometimes with people who have different opinions to him. He is also a media luvvie and is so right-on in his views that he is almost left-on. (Matt Cooper for some reason seems to have recently decided to compete). Allowing for that it is an excellent show.

Say Your Number

The piece he did today on the dancing plague of 1518 is the reason why it's my favourite show on radio.

Call me Al

Say Your Number wrote: »

The piece he did today on the dancing plague of 1518 is the reason why it's my favourite show on radio.

I love his show. It's great listening with random interesting segments and interviewees, especially when you've got curious children in the car for the school run or whatever who like listening to stuff. The kids and I listened to that dancing plague section in the car earlier and we had a great chat about it as a sketch about it had been on an episode of Horrible Histories they'd watched.

CatFromHue

humberklog wrote: »

Sean having a good pop at the Traveller advocacy lady there (Senator Collette Kelleher). Fair play to him.

She didn't want to, and didn't, answer any of his questions.

She just repeated her press release piece.

alaimacerc

jooksavage wrote: »

Ok I'll say it. I'm not a fan of Movies & Booze. Couldn't give a toss about beer or wine and Esther isn't the most engaging or knowledgeable film critic.

Esther's just terrible. We generally learn whether she likes a movie... and that's honestly about it. Though she does continue talking, to be sure. Maybe she should try doing it sober? Arena's film reviews are considerably better, if only because we get two people that have actually watched it, and are able to chuck their poorly constructed thoughts at each other, rather than one person opining in a vacuum. Though there's hardly a Kermode among the lot of them.

The booze segment is a bit of a mixed bag, depending on who's on, and whether I'm of a humour for their multifarious nonsenses. The usual "beer" guy is semi-OK. Tomás is a full-scale parody of a wine "expert", which does sometimes work strictly at a comedy level. (I'm more grain than grape, to declare my own bias.) The various others we get are points in between.

alaimacerc

Pussyhands wrote: »

And someone should tell Moncrief that reading out listeners text doesn't make you funny, the person sending the text was funny!

As a semi-regular listener, here to say the person sending the text is almost always not funny. It'd make my worry about his listenership... if I didn't already have this thread for that.

I find his voice terribly grating aswell.

He does have a bit of a Sarcastic Resting Tone quality to him.

alaimacerc

quintana76 wrote: »

He was speaking as if maintaining the burka was on an equivalence with gay rights or similar.

Setting aside the general gist of the Weekly Right-Wing Post on this segment -- in this case almost a complete do-over of the week before -- can't help but notice how much work the word "maintaining" is doing here.

evolving_doors

• Stop saying 'apropos'... and especially 'apropos of nothing'.
• Most of his material is just ripped straight out of Reddit's TIL, especially fact of the day.
• The movie reviewer nearly always reviews s**t blockbuster superhero movies then slates them for being far fetched:rolleyes:, ya thanks for that.
• Stop questions coming in about non-alcoholic wine and non-alcoholic beer, they're all just pi55. Everyone should know that.
• Stop getting annoying yanks on who drone on for 30 minutes for Sean to have a snooze.
• Enough of the sarcastic retorts from people's texts. Either respond to them or don't read them out.

alaimacerc

evolving_doors wrote: »

Stop getting annoying yanks on who drone on for 30 minutes for Sean to have a snooze.

Not a very reality-based gripe. He's a pretty interactive and engaged interviewer, and he's certainly not shy about cutting people off if he reckons they've overstayed their interest-to-be-had. Your attention span may of course vary!

Enough of the sarcastic retorts from people's texts. Either respond to them or don't read them out.

I'm guessing this is one of those "oops, have just said the exact opposite of what I meant" demands. Or is making some very unclear distinction between a "response" and a "sarcastic retort".

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alaimacerc wrote: »

Setting aside the general gist of the Weekly Right-Wing Post on this segment -- in this case almost a complete do-over of the week before -- can't help but notice how much work the word "maintaining" is doing here.

I always wonder the mental gymnastics the supposed "small government"/"anti nanny state" brigade have to do to be OK with the government telling people what they can/cannot wear when they're nipping down to LIDL.

alaimacerc

Ahmad Kind Pasteboard wrote: »

I always wonder the mental gymnastics the supposed "small government"/"anti nanny state" brigade have to do to be OK with telling people what they can/cannot wear when they're nipping down to LIDL.

Slightly reminds me of the proverbial Libertarian Incel, who believes the only job of the government should be to issue him with a a girlfriend.

I suppose "government should do all the things I find especially convenient at present, and no other things at all" might qualify as "small", relatively speaking, but seems to struggle badly on the Categorical Imperative front.

quintana76

quintana76 wrote: »

Agree with both statements with the qualification that he can be very sneery sometimes with people who have different opinions to him. He is also a media luvvie and is so right-on in his views that he is almost left-on. (Matt Cooper for some reason seems to have recently decided to compete). Allowing for that it is an excellent show.

Couldn't referring to someone as a "luvvie" with views "so right-on" that he is "left-on" be considered quite sneery? Plus, wouldn't someone who "is so right-on in his views that he is almost left-on" be a person that you, personally, would have "different opinions to"? So aren't you, in this post, doing exactly what you are accusing Moncreiff of doing on his radio show.

alaimacerc

Sean making a bit of a basic error, there. "It's not one of those whataboutery situations."

If he spent any time here, he'd realize that all situations were whataboutery situations!

2smiggy

i know it's been said before, but there has to be someone better than the woman who reviews the movies nearly every Friday. Woeful !!