Sean Moncrieff - Newstalk

quintana76

I hear Sean was at it again. Sneering at Kevin Sharkey and his plan to run for President. A good sneerer is our Sean. It's his default reaction to someone who disagrees with his right on views.

For Forks Sake

quintana76 wrote: »

I hear Sean was at it again. Sneering at Kevin Sharkey and his plan to run for President. A good sneerer is our Sean. It's his default reaction to someone who disagrees with his right on views.

I've heard Sharkey being interviewed about his plans to run for President, and to be fair, he seems to have absolutely f*ck all idea what it is the presidency is.

quintana76

For Forks Sake wrote: »

I've heard Sharkey being interviewed about his plans to run for President, and to be fair, he seems to have absolutely f*ck all idea what it is the presidency is.

So what? He can learn as he goes. His role is to force a debate. He knows he won't be able to speak in the unlikely event should he get elected. Sean doesn't approve.

ballsymchugh

quintana76 wrote: »

So what? He can learn as he goes. His role is to force a debate. He knows he won't be able to speak in the unlikely event should he get elected. Sean doesn't approve.

a government approved debate maybe, but the president can't go waffling off his own opinion.

Birneybau

For Forks Sake wrote: »

quintana76 wrote: »

I hear Sean was at it again. Sneering at Kevin Sharkey and his plan to run for President. A good sneerer is our Sean. It's his default reaction to someone who disagrees with his right on views.

I've heard Sharkey being interviewed about his plans to run for President, and to be fair, he seems to have absolutely f*ck all idea what it is the presidency is.

Sure, what would he know, he's from Donegal - Father Ted reference

Hurrache

quintana76 wrote: »

So what? He can learn as he goes. His role is to force a debate. He knows he won't be able to speak in the unlikely event should he get elected. Sean doesn't approve.

I haven't heard anyone approve in fairness.

the_pen_turner

any one tuned in for mr wind and his wierd museum. it has a celeb poo section

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the_pen_turner wrote: »

any one tuned in for mr wind and his wierd museum. it has a celeb poo section

I'm glad you didn't call him Victor (or Viktor), I feel he would have called around to correct you.

Interesting guy, Wikpedia bio starts "As an artist". Very much a guy that is cultivating a persona of himself I think.

Loved the way he kept trying to pin Sean as a scat fan. Sean wasn't biting.

ballsymchugh

Sean was caught out badly today with the foetal alcohol syndrome segment. anyone who texted in saying that it shouldn't be too hard to give up booze for 9 months was instantly disregarded as a man who could do with a drink anyway, until a female did text in. he tried to bat it off but missed, and missed badly.

i think the text was along the lines that if you're recommended to stop smoking while you're pregnant, then why shouldn't you be able to give up booze, which isn't as addictive (open to correction but that was the jist).

Grolschevik

ballsymchugh wrote: »

Sean was caught out badly today with the foetal alcohol syndrome segment. anyone who texted in saying that it shouldn't be too hard to give up booze for 9 months was instantly disregarded as a man who could do with a drink anyway, until a female did text in. he tried to bat it off but missed, and missed badly.

i think the text was along the lines that if you're recommended to stop smoking while you're pregnant, then why shouldn't you be able to give up booze, which isn't as addictive (open to correction but that was the jist).

Yeah, I didn't get that impression at all. What I got was his (understandable?) scepticism about a call for testing that

a) could not be mandatory,

b) could in no way be guaranteed to change a mother's behaviour or the results thereof, and

c) came.across as a plan simply to deter certain behaviours through the 'threat' of shaming via a blood test.

I thought he dealt with it well, and his scepticism was justified. However, I didn't hear most of the rest of the show, so I don't know how he reacted to some texters.

ballsymchugh

Grolschevik wrote: »

Yeah, I didn't get that impression at all. What I got was his (understandable?) scepticism about a call for testing that

a) could not be mandatory,

b) could in no way be guaranteed to change a mother's behaviour or the results thereof, and

c) came.across as a plan simply to deter certain behaviours through the 'threat' of shaming via a blood test.

I thought he dealt with it well, and his scepticism was justified. However, I didn't hear most of the rest of the show, so I don't know how he reacted to some texters.

without doubt, the test isn't a great idea but it was just so that you could be targeted for education about the risks involved.

but it developed more into a 'just stop drinking during pregnancy' thing with the texts that were being read out. the jist from the lady who was on from the HSE was that the only way to avoid the foetal abnormality was to avoid booze altogether. testing for it makes no difference. if you've drank something alcoholic then the damage is potentially done.

i don't think you could say it was a plan to shame mothers though, it's no different to being told that you shouldn't smoke while being pregnant. you shouldn't feel shamed in a one on one consultation by someone who wants the best for you and the child.

Grolschevik

ballsymchugh wrote: »

without doubt, the test isn't a great idea but it was just so that you could be targeted for education about the risks involved.

but it developed more into a 'just stop drinking during pregnancy' thing with the texts that were being read out. the jist from the lady who was on from the HSE was that the only way to avoid the foetal abnormality was to avoid booze altogether. testing for it makes no difference. if you've drank something alcoholic then the damage is potentially done.

i don't think you could say it was a plan to shame mothers though, it's no different to being told that you shouldn't smoke while being pregnant. you shouldn't feel shamed in a one on one consultation by someone who wants the best for you and the child.

I think Sean dealt with that. Said something along the lines of "could you just not tell them, like we do with smoking?"

It was the cagey reply to that comment that made me think that the purpose of the proposed test was primarily to change behaviour via the possibility of being caught out by your doctor rather than an informed attitude to booze during pregnancy.

ballsymchugh

Grolschevik wrote: »

I think Sean dealt with that. Said something along the lines of "could you just not tell them, like we do with smoking?"

It was the cagey reply to that comment that made me think that the purpose of the proposed test was primarily to change behaviour via the possibility of being caught out by your doctor rather than an informed attitude to booze during pregnancy.

he attacked nearly every text that came in after, which were pretty much along those lines, because they seemed to be mainly from men. it wasn't until a female texted in with the same thing that he changed his tone. you really have to listen to the prickish way he read out the messages though. it would have been just before the stuff that changed the world segment.

Grolschevik

Missed that. I'll take your word for it though. Sometimes he's more cranky than other times.

Grolschevik

Grolschevik wrote: »

Missed that. I'll take your word for it though. Sometimes he's more cranky than other times.

I think he’s cranky all the time now and really very dismissive towards men !
He’s a complete feminist and has a strong bias in his own responses to what goes on during his show. It’s become very noticeable .

On a separate note I never drank at all during my pregnancies . It was always my first sign of pregnancy that I went completely off alcohol , couldn’t drink even if I wanted to
Alcohol , coffee and chocolate made me sick and I craved oranges and tomatoes so I had very healthy pregnancies. I assumed it was natures way of giving babies the best chance of being healthy but it must have been just me!

marieholmfan

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He’s a complete feminist

4 daughters and no sons

quintana76

ballsymchugh wrote: »

he attacked nearly every text that came in after, which were pretty much along those lines, because they seemed to be mainly from men. it wasn't until a female texted in with the same thing that he changed his tone. you really have to listen to the prickish way he read out the messages though. it would have been just before the stuff that changed the world segment.

He has being doing that for years. Always takes the feminist side no matter how extreme. Always dismisses all male views on the subject as if they have no validity or right to speak. Think he genuinely believes in the "intersectionality" bulls***. If so, a very sad demonstration of a desperation to be seen to be trendy in certain circles despite his relatively mature age.

quintana76

150,000 people employed directly by charities in Ireland. Wow! All unregulated until very recently.

marieholmfan

quintana76 wrote: »

He has being doing that for years. Always takes the feminist side no matter how extreme. Always dismisses all male views on the subject as if they have no validity or right to speak. Think he genuinely believes in the "intersectionality" bulls***. If so, a very sad demonstration of a desperation to be seen to be trendy in certain circles despite his relatively mature age.

Rather than being driven by a series of alt right/ mens rights talking points his feminism and misandry is clearly driven by the fact that he has three or four daughters and no sons and some of these must now be teenagers.

quintana76

marieholmfan wrote: »

Rather than being driven by a series of alt right/ mens rights talking points his feminism and misandry is clearly driven by the fact that he has three or four daughters and no sons and some of these must now be teenagers.

No different to George Hook then by your definition. Same attitude expressed in a very different way. One right on and the other grandfatherly. Pays to be right on.

jooksavage

marieholmfan wrote: »

Rather than being driven by a series of alt right/ mens rights talking points his feminism and misandry is clearly driven by the fact that he has three or four daughters and no sons and some of these must now be teenagers.

Except he does have a son. A fact he's mentioned on the show many times.

humberklog

Ha, that was funny. A smart arsed Sean and a snippy barista brought together by poor research.
That must've been the shortest interview he's had.

ballsymchugh

humberklog wrote: »

Ha, that was funny. A smart arsed Sean and a snippy barista brought together by poor research.
That must've been the shortest interview he's had.

i didn't see much difference in poncing about coffee and poncing about wine, which will be done soon.

BPKS

Pity Sean always has to sneer at people he doesnt agree with.

Two different people just text in basically saying that criminals have a relatively easy time in prison - Sean put on that stupid, sneering, sarcastic voice to try make him look right and the texters look foolish.

That and his need to ALWAYS side with the feminist POV are the biggest turn-offs on his show.

kunst nugget

BPKS wrote: »

Pity Sean always has to sneer at people he doesnt agree with.

Two different people just text in basically saying that criminals have a relatively easy time in prison - Sean put on that stupid, sneering, sarcastic voice to try make him look right and the texters look foolish.

That and his need to ALWAYS side with the feminist POV are the biggest turn-offs on his show.

He actually came out about people being sexist against men today when people were giving out about fat men in warm weather.

Typer Monkey

Very sad news, David Carey has passed away. Such a lovely, knowledgeable man.

Birneybau

Typer Monkey wrote: »

Very sad news, David Carey has passed away. Such a lovely, knowledgeable man.

Ah no...

Snake Plisken

Typer Monkey wrote: »

Very sad news, David Carey has passed away. Such a lovely, knowledgeable man.

Ah No, used to love listening to him such a nice man with a lovey voice Rip David

8mv

Just stumbled across this thread by accident. That's very sad news - even though my kids are grown and I had no need of his professional advice, I always listened in when he was on - lovely man and full of common sense and empathy.

Typer Monkey

I know, makes me feel very sad that I'll never hear his lovely voice and sage advice again