Old type springer or not.

kermitpwee

allan450 wrote: »

one thing is for sure in all of this doesn't matter if the dog is heavily marked or lots of white through them as long they go like the clappers.

Fact:)

I had a new style small weedy bitch that was unreal, her drive was savage an animal in cover, she had some nice markings on her. She was the exception to the rule imo.

Gorman700

This is my lad Dennis.

Have him from 6 weeks. Unsure weather he's the old type or not, he's 6 and a half months old now and is 15 kg, he's got lovely stocky legs and a nice deep chest.

Am keen to get him out with other springers to get the idea of hunting cover a bit.

Let me know what ye think.

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snipe49

Gorman700 wrote: »

This is my lad Dennis.

Have him from 6 weeks. Unsure weather he's the old type or not, he's 6 and a half months old now and is 15 kg, he's got lovely stocky legs and a nice deep chest.

Am keen to get him out with other springers to get the idea of hunting cover a bit.

Let me know what ye think.

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Nice marked head but would need to see more of him .

Gorman700

snipe49 wrote: »

Nice marked head but would need to see more of him .

There ya go

snipe49

Gorman700 wrote: »

There ya go

getting there but would need to see him side on. and standing beside something to compare him with.:)

snipe49

snipe49 wrote: »

Thank u lad's for the comment's. I did'nt breed those pups my self. The big bitch i got up north. The liver and white bitch pup i got in tip. She out of two fine big springers both with heavy marking. but she was the last pup left will still trough heave marked pups and is a big lump of a pup. And the black and white bitch pup i got in galway she's from two nice size dog's. she has some drive will make a great worker. not in any pic is a pup i got it in clare he 9 months big but i'm not sure about him i'll put up a few pic later and will ye let me know what ye think. P.S that big bitch is even better in the flesh and a great girl around the place.

This is the 9 month dog pup. bad pic but best i got this eve . I know he's to white but what ye think other wise.

snipe49

This is my 9 month dog best pic i could get this eve, I know he to white but otherwise what do ye think.

Gorman700

More pics of my fella, side on.

snipe49

Gorman700 wrote: »

More pics of my fella, side on.

Nice big pup. but like my own fella from 6 months to a year springer pups are hard work when it comes to knowing what they will look live when fully grown. best of look with him pal.

TriggerPL

The only advice for a pup up to a year I can give ya is. Give them as much food as they will eat , there still growing so for the best chances in life they need feeding

snipe49

TriggerPL wrote: »

The only advice for a pup up to a year I can give ya is. Give them as much food as they will eat , there still growing so for the best chances in life they need feeding

very true. But u can over do it and make them fat.Some pups will just keep eating. And do make sure it the right food and i give mine calcium tablets as well for good bones.

TriggerPL

U only think that , up to a year and if you giving them regular excercise then any fat that they would have would be just gud conditioning and even a Heavy dog with a couple of week of swimming and out and about the weight will fall off them

jap gt

TriggerPL wrote: »

The only advice for a pup up to a year I can give ya is. Give them as much food as they will eat , there still growing so for the best chances in life they need feeding

fully agree, any pup i have had was always fed on raw meat bones and dog nuts, as much as they will eat,good quality food will not make a dog fat if they get the required amount of exercise , they always kept great condition on, a bit of swimming will also help to condition them,

kermitpwee

Here is a few pics of my lad, he is not the biggest dog in Ireland but I have yet to meet a man with a bigger dog round here. He is the old style with the shorter legs, he is 25kg and nicely marked. Endless drive even on ground where there is no scent, I have been looking for a replacement for the last 4 yrs, no luck yet, I will be lost without him.

kermitpwee

more!

jap gt

Nice dog kermit. What way is he bred

kermitpwee

jap gt wrote: »

Nice dog kermit. What way is he bred

I have his birth cert and he is registered but I never sent away for his papers. From what I can remember he has older lines, mix of birdrowe and badgercourt, think druid is in there. He doesn't have any modern trialing lines in him

johnny3

Here a big old stile dog

johnny3

This dog has savage stamina we worked him at Xmas for 3 days in a row and he just slowed down a bit then had one day rest and wos just like he wos rested for a month and a great noise

snipe49

johnny3 wrote: »

This dog has savage stamina we worked him at Xmas for 3 days in a row and he just slowed down a bit then had one day rest and wos just like he wos rested for a month and a great noise

fine dog have u any head on shots of him i'd like to see his front legs.Do u know what hight he is at the sholder.I have 10 month old pup i'll ut up a few pic now what do u think. ?

dogcityroller

Nice looking pup. Hard to beat the stringers.

ESB Spaniel

snipe49 wrote: »

Here are a few pic's of my girl's .There great workers but best of all big girl's. The liver and white bitch is a giant. In the picture with her is one of my other springers and she twice her size. she has paw's like paddles. And the black and white bitch is fine big dog too. What do ye think. ?

Lovely looking springers lad, in great condition.

snipe49

ESB Spaniel wrote: »

Lovely looking springers lad, in great condition.

Thanks pal i do try my best.:)

gregers85

Here's a few of my lad Harvey, hes about a year and a half! I would consider him a medium sized strong male for his age!

Had a good first season! looking forward to next yr! plenty of training to be done over the summer! gonna try get him going on the whistle!
He was advertised as old type but there are a lot of field trial champions on his father's lines, Mothers line is all rough shooting dogs, no known kennels on it so id say he's 50-50.

Few pics of him in the garden at the weekend: (impossible to get him still with the phone camera haha)




Here he is near my 2 German Shepherds, try give an idea of size!



Headshot:

denholm reynholm

allan450 wrote: »

The best springers iv seen have no papers.lads keeping lines going for years and only breeding when they need pups for them self's.That been said not all trail dogs are ****.how many trial dogs dont make the grade and end up as great shooting dogs.i dont agree with line breeding though thats what causes most of the probs.some bitches don't come into heat until their nearly 3 years of age with that small litters and most of the pups dieing.

would you think that there may be an issue with a bitch that doesn't come into heat until 3 years?? surely that would be an indicator that that bitch shouldn't be bred from at all.

majority of trialing dogs that dont make the grade are no use as hunting dogs as they dont have the stamina for hunting, this being the main issue with trialing dogs as mentioned earlier in the thread.
What has ruined the springer lines is greed, breeders churning out litters every year with little regard for the dogs, but to line their own pockets.

denholm reynholm

TriggerPL wrote: »

The only advice for a pup up to a year I can give ya is. Give them as much food as they will eat , there still growing so for the best chances in life they need feeding

not just quantity, but quality is needed too.

garyc007

Heres the pic of triggers dog and my bitch from the other thread,got some great old style pups,il try get more pics up


Attached is a pic of Triggers dog and my bitch,there is nothing small about my bitch so it kinda gives you an idea of his size.hopefully they should produce some cracking well marked pups




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allan450

should throw lovely pups

TriggerPL

There is a big dog pup , it's a pity I'm not home or he be going nowhere

garyc007

attached is a few pics of the pups,there not great pics but give you a rough idea