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Malaysia Airlines flight MH370-Updates and Discussion

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    #6182
    stevielenihan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭stevielenihan


    Synode wrote: »
    Is that your opinions or has it been confirmed as being from MH370?




    It has to be from MH370. They are already giving hints that it is. The plane went down in the Indian Ocean in 2014 and now the wreckage has finally floated. The suitcase found is also evidence that the wreckage is close to that area. I believe something bad happened to the plane and they turned around but possibly a hypoxia event ( this most likely to have happened) and then the plane flew on Auto Pilot until its fuel ran out and then it into the Indian Ocean it went.


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    #6183
    elastico
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    stevielenihan wrote: »
    It has to be from MH370. They are already giving hints that it is. The plane went down in the Indian Ocean in 2014 and now the wreckage has finally floated. The suitcase found is also evidence that the wreckage is close to that area. I believe something bad happened to the plane and they turned around but possibly a hypoxia event ( this most likely to have happened) and then the plane flew on Auto Pilot until its fuel ran out and then it into the Indian Ocean it went.

    How is the suitcase evidence of anything unless it's confirmed to be from the same flight?

    What makes you think the wreckage is in this area, most of it would have sunk in the crash site, 16 months drifting from where the piece has been found.


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    #6184
    rrpc
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    A Réunion online news site has a photo of the piece that was found showing its part number and the corresponding part number in the Boeing 777 maintenance manual.

    Apparently there have been only five ever 'hull losses' of Boeing 777s in its history. One was MH17 which was shot down over the Ukraine and the other three were on land and are accounted for. The only remaining unaccounted one is MH370.


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    #6185
    radar0976
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    billie1b wrote: »
    I dont think so, I think the aircraft is in and around the area of Reunion and the Maldives islands, for some reason I think the are searching the totally wrong place

    Based on what facts ?


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    #6186
    roundymac
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    Sky News are saying that it fits in with a drift pattern from where they were looking off the Aussie coast.


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    #6187
    IE 222
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    QUOTE=stevielenihan;96430681]It has to be from MH370. They are already giving hints that it is. The plane went down in the Indian Ocean in 2014 and now the wreckage has finally floated. The suitcase found is also evidence that the wreckage is close to that area. I believe something bad happened to the plane and they turned around but possibly a hypoxia event ( this most likely to have happened) and then the plane flew on Auto Pilot until its fuel ran out and then it into the Indian Ocean it went.[/QUOTE]

    The plane didn't crash near the area. The hypoxia theory doesn't add up either. The pilots made no attempt of an emergency. There oxygen would of ran out well before the last course change and they most certainly would of made a mayday call. The last known radar contact brought them out towards the andaman sea passing many airports over an hour since first going off course . If this happened they would of been dead by then and the plane would of kept going and crashed near Iran.


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    #6188
    rrpc
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    The French have choppers out in Réunion looking for more debris:


    I suspect that Madagascar would be a better bet being exponentially much larger than Réunion which is tiny. Although it might be a few days to weeks before debris starts turning up there as it's another 300-400 miles west.


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    #6189
    Calina
    Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    billie1b wrote: »
    They're not really known facts, they went with a method that was never used to find an aircraft before. Suppose we'll see when its eventually found, I could be totally wrong, usually I am

    It's one thing not to agree with the views of some experts. But you voiced a belief regarding where the plane actually is.

    What is your supporting argument?


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    #6190
    billie1b
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    Calina wrote: »
    It's one thing not to agree with the views of some experts. But you voiced a belief regarding where the plane actually is.

    What is your supporting argument?

    Never said I had one, in my opinion I believe thats where the aircraft is, it may very well not be there as I also said in my post but thats just my opinion. People on here really need to relax when it comes to other people having different opinions to them or others.


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    #6191
    Beersmith
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    billie1b wrote: »
    Never said I had one, in my opinion I believe thats where the aircraft is, it may very well not be there as I also said in my post but thats just my opinion. People on here really need to relax when it comes to other people having different opinions to them or others.

    Well when the opinion is complete bull**** then we can question it.


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    #6192
    Calina
    Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    billie1b wrote: »
    Never said I had one, in my opinion I believe thats where the aircraft is, it may very well not be there as I also said in my post but thats just my opinion. People on here really need to relax when it comes to other people having different opinions to them or others.

    Let me rephrase the question then.

    Why do you think that's where the aircraft is?

    I'm just interested in general terms - there's a bunch of technical evidence favouring one hypothesis. You don't agree with it and you have your own but I'm not getting the why?


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    #6193
    Mountainsandh
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    The piece is due to be transported to France on Friday, it will be examined by specialists in Toulouse on Saturday.
    The suitcase will be analysed for DNA at a different location.


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    #6194
    nc6000
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    Mountainsandh wrote: »
    The piece is due to be transported to France on Friday, it will be examined by specialists in Toulouse on Saturday.
    The suitcase will be analysed for DNA at a different location.

    They are bringing the piece of the Boeing to where Airbus are based?


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    #6195
    Brians Collection
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    nc6000 wrote: »
    They are bring the piece of the Boeing to where Airbus are based?

    It looks like it is being brought to the French air accident investigators base for identification.


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    #6196
    stevielenihan
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    elastico wrote: »
    How is the suitcase evidence of anything unless it's confirmed to be from the same flight?

    What makes you think the wreckage is in this area, most of it would have sunk in the crash site, 16 months drifting from where the piece has been found.


    The plane crashed into the Indian Ocean. It got drifted to this site. How else do you think the suit case got there. Did somebody put it there? No I dont think so. It drifted from the crash site just like the Flaperon.


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    #6197
    stevielenihan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭stevielenihan


    IE 222 wrote: »
    QUOTE=stevielenihan;96430681]It has to be from MH370. They are already giving hints that it is. The plane went down in the Indian Ocean in 2014 and now the wreckage has finally floated. The suitcase found is also evidence that the wreckage is close to that area. I believe something bad happened to the plane and they turned around but possibly a hypoxia event ( this most likely to have happened) and then the plane flew on Auto Pilot until its fuel ran out and then it into the Indian Ocean it went.

    The plane didn't crash near the area. The hypoxia theory doesn't add up either. The pilots made no attempt of an emergency. There oxygen would of ran out well before the last course change and they most certainly would of made a mayday call. The last known radar contact brought them out towards the andaman sea passing many airports over an hour since first going off course . If this happened they would of been dead by then and the plane would of kept going and crashed near Iran.[/QUOTE]





    The Hypoxia event was suggested by the investegators and its a very possible reason. What do you think caused the plane to go off course and crash in the Indian Ocean? Tell me come on. Something happend and they turned the plane around trying to land at the nearest airport but they got overtaken and passed out and the plane flew then until its fuel ran out. Tell me what do you think happened? Come on planes dont just change route for no reason. It was no pilot sucide eiter. No edvience that the pilots were behind it.


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    #6198
    stevielenihan
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    Synode wrote: »
    What method have you used to come up with "the area of Reunion and the Maldives islands"



    The plane did not crash near the Maldives.


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    #6199
    smurfjed
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    nearest airport but they got overtaken and passed out and the plane flew then until its fuel ran out
    While the passenger Oxygen is created by generators with approximately 15 minutes supply, the cockpit crew has a lot more than that delivered under pressure. Therefore they had sufficient time to get the aircraft down to a oxygen sustainable altitude before running out of Oxygen.


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    #6200
    KoolKid
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    stevielenihan wrote: »
    Something happend and they turned the plane around trying to land at the nearest airport but they got overtaken and passed out and the plane flew then until its fuel ran out. Tell me what do you think happened? Come on planes dont just change route for no reason. It was no pilot sucide eiter. No edvience that the pilots were behind it.

    But that plane did change route long after that. Not sure if it was proven but it was suggested they were manual adjustments.


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    #6201
    _Tombstone_
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    Washing up where it did tells them nothing about where it went down at all. Unless maybe if it had went down yesterday. They know nothing about currents there, other than they generally head west.

    http://www.wired.com/2015/07/no-piece-debris-wont-tell-us-mh370-crashed/


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    _84574651_mh370_debris_simulation_624map.png

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-33714780


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    #6202
    Mountainsandh
    Registered Users Posts: 6,700 ✭✭✭Mountainsandh


    nc6000 wrote: »
    They are bringing the piece of the Boeing to where Airbus are based?

    Sorry just seeing this, they are bringing it to the Direction Generale de l'armement in Balma (Toulouse, yes). That's a government military branch http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga , presumably with the best specialists for aircraft forensics in that situation. I suppose it's a bonus that Boeing are based there.

    Malaysian specialists are also travelling to that location.

    Don't know where the suitcase will be sent exactly.

    Source is the French news (TF1).


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    #6203
    _Tombstone_
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    Mountainsandh wrote: »
    Sorry just seeing this, they are bringing it to the Direction Generale de l'armement in Balma (Toulouse, yes). That's a government military branch http://www.defense.gouv.fr/dga , presumably with the best specialists for aircraft forensics in that situation. I suppose it's a bonus that Boeing are based there.

    Malaysian specialists are also travelling to that location.

    Don't know where the suitcase will be sent exactly.

    Source is the French news (TF1).

    This is where the Flap is going,

    http://www.bea.aero/en/
    The Bureau of Enquiry and Analysis for Civil Aviation Safety") is an agency of the French government, responsible for investigating aviation accidents and making safety recommendations based on what is learned from those investigations.
    Its headquarters are at Paris–Le Bourget Airport in Le Bourget, near Paris. The BEA has 120 employees, including 30 investigators and 12 investigative assistants.[1] It is under the authority of the Ministry of Ecology, Sustainable Development, Transport and Housing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_d%27Enqu%C3%AAtes_et_d%27Analyses_pour_la_S%C3%A9curit%C3%A9_de_l%27Aviation_Civile


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    #6204
    Mountainsandh
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    My understanding is that the BEA are now officially in charge, and the piece is headed for Toulouse, as I said above. Maybe TF1 got it wrong, but it is quoting from the Malaysian PM's declaration.
    Dans un communiqué, le Premier ministre malaisien indique que le débris va être transféré près de Toulouse, où des experts malaisiens vont être dépêchés. Ce que confirme la gendarmerie des transports aériens auprès de Reuters, précisant que le flaperon sera examiné à Balma, à la Direction générale de l'armement. Le débris d'avion sera transporté en métropole "en fin de semaine" a indiqué une source judiciaire.

    http://lci.tf1.fr/france/faits-divers/debris-valise-courants-comment-le-mystere-du-mh370-rebondit-8640247.html

    The BEA probably have a branch of experts with the required equipment down there.

    Reuters in English : http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/30/us-malaysia-airlines-crash-reunion-idUSKCN0Q32EM20150730


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    #6205
    Calina
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    http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/mh370-investigators-evacuated-as-reunion-island-volcano-set-to-erupt/story-fnizu68q-1227464754936

    If an author threw something like this into a book that was theoretically fiction, we'd say s/he was trying too hard.


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    #6206
    rrpc
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    _Tombstone_ wrote: »
    Washing up where it did tells them nothing about where it went down at all. Unless maybe if it had went down yesterday. They know nothing about currents there, other than they generally head west.
    Predicting currents is inexact and a bit like weather forecasting. However historical current data is much more accurate and makes it easier to track back then to track forward.


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    #6207
    rrpc
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    More debris that could be from MH370 has been found on La Réunion. Nothing specific to the plane, but it could be an indication that there's a debris field drifting that way.


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    #6208
    fr336
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    So what are people's current theories?


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    #6209
    Happyman42
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    fr336 wrote: »
    So what are people's current theories?

    1. When looking for a plane in the ocean...have patience?

    2. Tide waits for no man?


    *just remembering all the speculation over a year ago and the voices of reason suggesting this would eventually happen.


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    #6210
    rrpc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭rrpc


    fr336 wrote: »
    So what are people's current theories?

    Pilot suicide seems to be still the most likely explanation. It's hard to come up with a plausible emergency situation that prevents all contact with the ground and still allows the plane fly for thousands of kilometres, way off course.

    Only recovery of the black boxes will answer the question.


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    #6211
    PukkaStukka
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    rrpc wrote: »
    Pilot suicide seems to be still the most likely explanation. It's hard to come up with a plausible emergency situation that prevents all contact with the ground and still allows the plane fly for thousands of kilometres, way off course.

    Only recovery of the black boxes will answer the question.

    A misadventure along these lines is perhaps the most plausible event alright. For me though, the controlled sequential shutdown inflight of several systems points to none other than very deliberate intent


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