Malaysia Airlines flight MH370-Updates and Discussion

highlydebased

Just spotted this on BBC News, just posted a few minutes ago

'Contact lost' with Malaysia plane
Breaking news
Malaysia Airlines says it has lost contact with flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, with 239 people on board

More to follow.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26492748

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Zonda999

Very worrying, a B777-200ER

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6013265/

Schorpio

Hopefully it's just a technical glitch, and everyone's alright. Fingers crossed.

old_aussie

SEPANG:Malaysia Airlines (MAS) confirms that flight MH370 has lost contact with Subang Air Traffic Control at 2.40am, Saturday.

In a statement issued by MAS, Flight MH370, operated on the B777-200 aircraft, departed Kuala Lumpur at 12.41am on 8 March 2014. MH370 was expected to land in Beijing at 6.30am the same day.

The flight was carrying a total number of 227 passengers (including 2 infants), 12 crewmembers.

Malaysia Airlines is currently working with the authorities who have activated their Search and Rescue team to locate the aircraft.

arbour

They were due to land 2 hours 15 mins ago and lost contact over 4 hours ago. This does not look good.

Highflyer13

Fearing the worst here. Aircraft appears to have been missing for some hours and news is only reaching the media now.

owenc

Oh dear

highlydebased

Aircraft was 9M-MRO.

nkay1985

You'd have to fear the worst at this stage.

Kavs8

Look's like it did not get far from Kuala Lumpur, FR24 detected it as landed 39 mins after departure and have a look at this flightaware picture - http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS370

The flight if still airborne would have out-flown Beijing by 2hrs 45mins now, well outside reserves.

It looks like the worst has happened.

MH370 never entered China Airspace, nor made Contact with Beijing.

EI-DOR

9M-MRO wouldn't be the oldest in their fleet. Only 12 years old!

Kavs8

EI-DOR wrote: »

9M-MRO wouldn't be the oldest in their fleet. Only 12 years old!

Indeed, quite young I believe It was involved in incident with a China Airlines flight a few years back, both aircraft contacted each other taxiing.

FlightAware have said the last recorded information shows the aircraft at 35,000ft and 468kts, information was then lost, approx 20 minutes after departure from KUL.

Razor44

really doesnt look good at this stage. young aircraft too. hope the worst hasnt happened

EI-DOR

My god, does not sound good. Here's hoping folks!

sparrowcar

Social media starting to come alive on this now. One would have to expect the worst possible outcome at this stage.

jescart

I know the cause of complete hull losses and fatal air tragedies can depends on a huge number of factors, but would I be correct in saying they would be one of the safer airlines to fly with?

fussyonion

jescart wrote: »

I know the cause of complete hull losses and fatal air tragedies can depends on a huge number of factors, but would I be correct in saying they would be one of the safer airlines to fly with?

As opposed to who?

Kavs8

fussyonion wrote: »

As opposed to who?

I would assume he is referring to the appalling safety records of airlines in Indonesia, however Malaysia Airlines have a very good safety record - A very well established reputable airline.

jescart

fussyonion wrote: »

As opposed to who?

Smart ass :rolleyes: are you implying that all airlines in the world have maintained identical safety records (hull loss incidents, fatalities, etc ) throughout history? Of course there's the concept of an unsafe airline, a simple Google search will give you the names

Kavs8

I don't want to throw this out there as confirmed, but it is promising, a Malaysian journo has tweeted, ''Landed in Nan Ming - cockpit electronics malfunction''

Let's hope to god this is true!

Update - Malaysia Airlines have begun informing families that there is almost no hope for those on board. Devastating news.

Bsal

Journalists and aviation just don't mix :mad:

jescart

http://malaysiandigest.com/frontpage/282-main-tile/492200-mas-kl-beijing-flight-missing.html

Edit - untrustworthy source

Kavs8

FR24 have posted the last recorded image over the Gulf of Thailand - Radar contact was then lost at 17:19 UTC at that position, they didn't release this information for quite a long period, which may sound unusual but is understandable unfortunately.

old_aussie

9:30am - (UNOFFICIAL) Flight MH370 has resurfaced and landed safely in Nanming, China. Early reports say that the aircraft had experienced a cockpit electronics malfunction.

As of this moment, the flight crew and all 239 passengers onboard are believed to be unharmed as some of the crew has already informed their families of their safety.

More updates to come.

BorneTobyWilde

Could not have landed by that last radar reading

irishmover

It was over land. Inside china when it went missing. Don't mind flight radar.

owenc

This is so annoying.

One minute its landed and the next its missing.

And even if it did land why did it take six hours to get there???

Kavs8

Please remember after an Embraer Regional jet went missing a few years back we had reports of it landing safely, it crashed - People are using new sources frankly I wouldn't allow research a birthday date and then putting it out as clear fact, everything is unconfirmed and as I tried to do and as should everyone is state that it is unconfirmed, don't state something which even the AIRLINE does not know.

Thrill

Chinese official confirm that MH370 never entered Chinese airspace

jescart

Malaysian digest seems to be the only site reporting the landing, strange how they (and passengers families apparently) would know before the airline itself. Absolutely sick, disgusting joke if it's false info

Kavs8

The MD of Malaysia Airlines has apparently told the press, reports of it landing are untrue, has said Chinese Authorities would have confirmed this as the aircraft has been missing for over 8 hours now, he said Chinese Authorities did not pick it up on radar after Vietnamese ATC contacted them notifying them of the missing aircraft. 13 different nationalities on-board.

Airline has said it wants families to contact them as they will have immediate information and are disappointed to see recent media speculation.

As has been said, journo's and aviation do not mix.

Thrill

Malaysia Airlines VP says missing plane had enough fuel for 7hrs; would've run out of fuel over 1hr ago.

Kavs8

Confirmed now by Nan Ming Airport, no aircraft belonging to Malaysian Airlines has landed at the airport.


As has been pointed out above the flight would have been airborne for approx 10hrs now, with 7hrs fuel, it seems there is only one outcome, doesn't bare thinking about.

Kavs8

Press conference any minute now by Malaysian Airlines - Keep an eye on Sky News

Update - MAL have said they will being conference just after 3 UTC

EI-DOR

Another 15 mins until the Press Conference!

irishmover

Contact was lost over Vietnam airspace. Not Chinese. My bad.

Thrill

Malaysia Airlines VP tells CNN no distress call or problems reported from MH370 before disappearance, plane was at 35K ft.

AlanMcC23

This isnt looking good at all

Kavs8

No Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT) detected, and Vietnamese ATC say the aircraft was lost in there airspace, in a good radar coverage area - Altitude dropped from 35,000ft to 0ft and then disappeared from radar, location would have been just after contacting Vietnam in the Gulf of Thailand.

Kavs8

Don't want to confirm this, but one of my friends in the ''know'' who gave me correct information about AF447 in 2009 just text me saying the track of the aircraft changed from 024 degrees to 333 degrees and the change in attitude from 35,000ft to 0ft in the space of a minute coupled with the change in track signifies a rapid uncontrolled descent - I really don't want to get into speculating what caused this but I thought I'd share the information, have to say it's devastating news - I really don't want to believe it frankly.

BorneTobyWilde

Kavs8 wrote: »

Don't want to confirm this, but one of my friends in the ''know'' who gave me correct information about AF447 in 2009 just text me saying the track of the aircraft changed from 024 degrees to 333 degrees and the change in attitude from 35,000ft to 0ft in the space of a minute coupled with the change in track signifies a rapid uncontrolled descent - I really don't want to get into speculating what caused this but I thought I'd share the information, have to say it's devastating news - I really don't want to believe it frankly.

It that possible

irishmover

Australians were on board.

This is a common enough route for Irish coming from Ireland to Australia.

Cessna_Pilot

Change of track of around 50 degrees and rapid descent would suggest to me a depressurization or emergency situation leading to an emergency descent.

35000 to 0 in a minute would not be possible.

Thrill

irishmover wrote: »

Australians were on board.

160 Chinese nationals also.

Kavs8

Cessna_Pilot wrote: »

Change of track of around 50 degrees and rapid descent would suggest to me a depressurization or emergency situation leading to an emergency descent.

35000 to 0 in a minute would not be possible.

Just to add the crash of SilkAir Flight 185, was also at 35,000ft it crashed less then one minute after the pilot downed the aircraft, I'm not going to say if it is possible or not, but consider the aircraft is a 777-200 laden with fuel and only an hour into it's flight, it's going to descend very quickly.

Cessna_Pilot

Kavs8 wrote: »

Just to add the crash of SilkAir Flight 185, was also at 35,000ft it crashed less then one minute after the pilot downed the aircraft, I'm not going to say if it is possible or not, but consider the aircraft is a 777-200 laden with fuel and only an hour into it's flight, it's going to descend very quickly.

thats a very good point re the weight.

irishmover

2 incidents in entire 777 history.

cuterob

I know it's quite far fetched and nearly 100% unlikey but hope it's not something like this below:

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303824204579420623335971350

Kavs8

cuterob wrote: »

I know it's quite far fetched but hope it's not something like this below:

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303824204579420623335971350

The aircraft hadn't even reached Vietnam, I think it's safe to say that can be ruled out.

irishmover

No Irish on board. Thank god!

Ukraine (2)
China (152+1 infant)
New Zealand (2)
Malaysia (38)
Indonesia (12)
Australia (7)
France (3)
USA (3+1 infant)
Canada (2)
Russia (1)
Netherlands (1)
Austria (1)
Italy (1)
Taiwan (1)

cuterob

Kavs8 wrote: »

The aircraft hadn't even reached Vietnam, I think it's safe to say that can be ruled out.

oh thats ok so, its just i saw a cnn video on youtube where they were showing the plane over china