Healthy Eating

Genghis Cant

hugo29 wrote: »

never mind the hurlers, what about the women folk

I often collect my bucko's from national school and I'm astounded by the the condition of a lot of the mammys (and indeed daddy's). It's not good, and its affecting the kids too. There's gonna be huge issues down the line.
The few former Eastern European state wimmen really stand out.

Nekarsulm

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The few former Eastern European state wimmen really stand out.[/QUOTE]

Which is why the Irish mammies love them soooooooooooo much!

biddy2013

Nekarsulm wrote: »

[QUOTE
The few former Eastern European state wimmen really stand out.

Which is why the Irish mammies love them soooooooooooo much![/QUOTE]
it is true the skinny minnies are nearly all the eastern european women, also i never see any of them at slimming world so i must try and get their secret, coul save me a few bob

GrandSoftDay

Genghis Cant wrote: »

And our hurlers have fat arses according to Get Loughnane.

Haha, what part of our wonderful county did you grace with your presence?

moy83

hugo29 wrote: »

never mind the hurlers, what about the women folk

Weh hey ! Now your talking , there is nothing wrong with a bit of padding on the rear end either though

hugo29

moy83 wrote: »

Weh hey ! Now your talking , there is nothing wrong with a bit of padding on the rear end either though

bit of cushion for pushin;)

blue5000

biddy2013 wrote: »

Which is why the Irish mammies love them soooooooooooo much!

it is true the skinny minnies are nearly all the eastern european women, also i never see any of them at slimming world so i must try and get their secret, coul save me a few bob[/QUOTE]

I think it's because all our skinny genes died out in the famine, only the ppl with fat reserves survived.

Or another theory on why Scandinavian ppl are so good looking is because the vikings only took good looking women as slaves. If you don't believe me go to Scotland:D

darragh_haven

Genghis Cant wrote: »

I often collect my bucko's from national school and I'm astounded by the the condition of a lot of the mammys (and indeed daddy's). It's not good, and its affecting the kids too. There's gonna be huge issues down the line.
The few former Eastern European state wimmen really stand out.

i spent a few summers up around the Blue Ball, must say there were a few nice fillies there:D, and this was before the influx of the Eastern state wimmen

Nekarsulm

blue5000 wrote: »

I think it's because all our skinny genes died out in the famine, only the ppl with fat reserves survived

Don't think so, Mr A, I've rented houses to lots of them, and they would have very different stuff in the house. Never see biscuits or sweets, more veg and fruit. a small cake would be a treat. Less food in the house than a comparable Irish families house. Perhaps a bit more drink, but only a bit. Lots of famine in eastern European countries, and a lot more recently than here. 65 years ago W. Germany was starving, Helmut Kohl spent two years living in a doorway after the war.

Genghis Cant

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Don't think so, Mr A, I've rented houses to lots of them, and they would have very different stuff in the house. Never see biscuits or sweets, more veg and fruit. a small cake would be a treat. Less food in the house than a comparable Irish families house. Perhaps a bit more drink, but only a bit. Lots of famine in eastern European countries, and a lot more recently than here. 65 years ago W. Germany was starving, Helmut Kohl spent two years living in a doorway after the war.

I've noticed the same with the grub. No much tubes of Pringles hanging about, much more veg. I don't think they'd have a path wore to the chipper either.
I'd liken it to much the way we were in the 70s and 80s when I was growing up.

Genghis Cant

GrandSoftDay wrote: »

Ya place is full of them, a lot of people walking the roads in September picking them. You were very close to me

I thought as much! I might just call the next time :-)

moy83

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Don't think so, Mr A, I've rented houses to lots of them, and they would have very different stuff in the house. Never see biscuits or sweets, more veg and fruit. a small cake would be a treat. Less food in the house than a comparable Irish families house. Perhaps a bit more drink, but only a bit. Lots of famine in eastern European countries, and a lot more recently than here. 65 years ago W. Germany was starving, Helmut Kohl spent two years living in a doorway after the war.

I used to keep a blast of quail and a few polacks used buy as many eggs from me as they could get . They were boiled in the morn and used as sweets during the day for the kids

biddy2013

Genghis Cant wrote: »

I've noticed the same with the grub. No much tubes of Pringles hanging about, much more veg. I don't think they'd have a path wore to the chipper either.
I'd liken it to much the way we were in the 70s and 80s when I was growing up.

eldest lad goes to dietician, hes a big lad, she was saying today 2 treats a week is plenty for kids:eek:

Nekarsulm

Rent a house to Polish lads who came over to work in a local Bacon factory. They were showing me their packed lunch one day. Big sandwiches made with sliced meat. Tasted lovely. What's the meat?, I asked, from the Polish shop?
Nope, they would pick a few nice pigs hearts on a Friday at work, cook them that evening with peppers and pickles, then slice all up and pour all into a big oblong shaped glass container. When it cooled, was set in a block, shake it out of the container, and you had a block of luncheon meat type product. that made the lunches for the week. Teach you how to live economically.

kevthegaff

I havent a pick on me and can eat what i like, on the other side im climbing a mountain everyday! I see a good few farmers now carrying weight, reckon its to do with alot of farmers have lads doing milkings etc for them

biddy2013

kevthegaff wrote: »

I havent a pick on me and can eat what i like, on the other side im climbing a mountain everyday! I see a good few farmers now carrying weight, reckon its to do with alot of farmers have lads doing milkings etc for them

my eldest lad was always a big lad, second child a girl is like a twig...

kevthegaff

You must make a good stew:-)

bbam

biddy2013 wrote: »

eldest lad goes to dietician, hes a big lad, she was saying today 2 treats a week is plenty for kids:eek:

Thats really all our girls would get..
Friday evening treat watching telly and then something on a Sunday..
We don't do fizzy drinks and crisps would only be at Christmas or a party.. Porridge most mornings or eggs..

We keep them active.. the 11 YO does 8 hours swim training a week, and plays camogie too.. the 5 YO swims, irish dancing and ballet

biddy2013

bbam wrote: »

Thats really all our girls would get..
Friday evening treat watching telly and then something on a Sunday..
We don't do fizzy drinks and crisps would only be at Christmas or a party.. Porridge most mornings or eggs..

We keep them active.. the 11 YO does 8 hours swim training a week, and plays camogie too.. the 5 YO swims, irish dancing and ballet

ye mine would be active enough but the eldest lad has been going to dietician for about 3 years now. Most food is healthy enough, i have and actifry and all food is slimming world based. His problem is he eats his food and then eats what his sister doesnt eat, he is a picker... i keep telling him pickers wear bigger knickers:D

Nekarsulm

Drives me nuts this craze of kids birthday parties in Play Centre. Load of shyte food served, wall to wall fats and sugars, crisps and pops. If you open your mouth, other parents wobble over and say "its a party, its their big day" trouble is, every day is a party day, and then you get these looks that say "yer man is very odd, spoilsport, and what's he doing in a kids centre, anyway, watching little children" Wagons. Not one of them would grade less than a 4H.

bbam

biddy2013 wrote: »

ye mine would be active enough but the eldest lad has been going to dietician for about 3 years now. Most food is healthy enough, i have and actifry and all food is slimming world based. His problem is he eats his food and then eats what his sister doesnt eat, he is a picker... i keep telling him pickers wear bigger knickers:D

Just tell him his sister has shocking germs :D
I cant stand to see people eating of someone else's plate, its a weird thing of mine... I couldn't taste something of even OH's plate..

At least ye have the sense to go to a professional and not some nutjob quack !

biddy2013

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Drives me nuts this craze of kids birthday parties in Play Centre. Load of shyte food served, wall to wall fats and sugars, crisps and pops. If you open your mouth, other parents wobble over and say "its a party, its their big day" trouble is, every day is a party day, and then you get these looks that say "yer man is very odd, spoilsport, and what's he doing in a kids centre, anyway, watching little children" Wagons. Not one of them would grade less than a 4H.

yup and then the kids come home wired

biddy2013

bbam wrote: »

Just tell him his sister has shocking germs :D
I cant stand to see people eating of someone else's plate, its a weird thing of mine... I couldn't taste something of even OH's plate..

At least ye have the sense to go to a professional and not some nutjob quack !

he has done very well, he has come down alot in the percentiles, he is a fecker and would just keep on eating, i make him drink loads of water to fill him up, he is now throwing grapes up in the air and trying to catch them in his mouth. I have to try and get any leftovers out to the dog before he goes at them

bbam

biddy2013 wrote: »

he has done very well, he has come down alot in the percentiles, he is a fecker and would just keep on eating, i make him drink loads of water to fill him up, he is now throwing grapes up in the air and trying to catch them in his mouth. I have to try and get any leftovers out to the dog before he goes at them

At least he eats fruit...
We counted last week.... we eat about 100 pieces of fruit a week here :eek:

biddy2013

bbam wrote: »

At least he eats fruit...
We counted last week.... we eat about 100 pieces of fruit a week here :eek:

see thats his problem he will eat everything

leg wax

simx wrote: »

Like the lad with the auld suckler cow, ah I'll get rid of her when she has this calf, then she's in calf again and same story following year

ten years old next year so shes gone then,:p:p

moy83

bbam wrote: »

Just tell him his sister has shocking germs :D
I cant stand to see people eating of someone else's plate, its a weird thing of mine... I couldn't taste something of even OH's plate..

At least ye have the sense to go to a professional and not some nutjob quack !

I'm as good as you bbam , if someone looked sideways at my plate or glass I wouldnt eat or drink from it .
I still manage to eat too much though

A cow called Daisy

.Kovu. wrote: »

Bloody dentist at 2 to get him to inspect a broken tooth.
If he says it has to come out I'll go mad:(:mad:

How you get on at dentist? Broke tooth myself while back. Figure it have to come out

A cow called Daisy

bbam wrote: »

At least he eats fruit...
We counted last week.... we eat about 100 pieces of fruit a week here :eek:

Some fruit is very high in sugar which not great either. It fructose, i think, but can be fattening

bbam

A cow called Daisy wrote: »

Some fruit is very high in sugar which not great either. It fructose, i think, but can be fattening

Eating five a day is fine... not all the same type..
People don't get fat from eating fruit... that's insane talk.

biddy2013

bbam wrote: »

Eating five a day is fine... not all the same type..
People don't get fat from eating fruit... that's insane talk.

yup its true, once an apple is cooked it releases sugar, other fruits too

Damo810

Bananas are the highest in sugar iirc. It's crazy how different some people are though, I eat north of 7000 calories and for the life of me can't put on fat..

biddy2013

and avocadoes and coconuts are very fattening too. I have discivered pomello, its a cross between an orange and a grapefruit, lidl do them and they are yummy

bbam

biddy2013 wrote: »

and avocadoes and coconuts are very fattening too. I have discivered pomello, its a cross between an orange and a grapefruit, lidl do them and they are yummy

OK..
But we're talking every day stuff.. Apples, Pears, Banannas, Oranges, Grapes, Grapefruit, Kiwi, Plums.. It couldn't be said that coconuts and avocadoes are typical fruit eating for the Irish population, I even lived in Louth for a while and I can honestly say I never saw a local eating either..

biddy2013

bbam wrote: »

OK..
But we're talking every day stuff.. Apples, Pears, Banannas, Oranges, Grapes, Grapefruit, Kiwi, Plums.. It couldn't be said that coconuts and avocadoes are typical fruit eating for the Irish population, I even lived in Louth for a while and I can honestly say I never saw a local eating either..

ah i know, only buy avocadoes if aldi have them on offer:D

Genghis Cant

On paper it's relatively easy to balance the energy equation. If you're taking in more energy than you're burning, you'll gain mass. If you burn more energy than you consume, you're in deficit. You'll lose mass.
In reality though it can be much more difficult, given age, lifestyle, sex and probably a genetic factor too.

ABlur

Damo810 wrote: »

Bananas are the highest in sugar iirc. It's crazy how different some people are though, I eat north of 7000 calories and for the life of me can't put on fat..

Jaysus what does your average dinner consist of to make up those calorie figures ?

Genghis Cant

ABlur wrote: »

Jaysus what does your average dinner consist of to make up those calorie figures ?

Ian Thorp said in an interview he was eating over 10000 kCal a day when training. Pizza made up a lot of it!

Juniorhurler

Damo810 wrote: »

Bananas are the highest in sugar iirc. It's crazy how different some people are though, I eat north of 7000 calories and for the life of me can't put on fat..

7000 is massive. In my twenties I reckon I ate about 5000 every day and with the training I was doing it wasn't a problem. At 31 and almost 17 stone I realised it was. I now eat roughly 2500 per day obeying a simple couple of rules. Eat food, not too much, mostly vegetables. I now weigh just over 13 stone. Boredom eating is the biggest problem I had and I teckon most people have too. I used to sit down on long winter evenings and eat like a savage. Now I avoid sitting down so much and after a big battle witg myself have kicked the boredom eating. It was harder than giving up the fags by far.

bbam

Genghis Cant wrote: »

Ian Thorp said in an interview he was eating over 10000 kCal a day when training. Pizza made up a lot of it!

But we're not all Ian Thorpe..
For the average person with huge expenditure and consumption the problem hits when the huge expenditure of calories comes to an end... it takes serious planning and discipline to reduce the calorie intake to match the drop in activity, fine for Ian Thorp as he probably has his own dietician, exercise team and its all planned.. But for the average Joe Shmow it typically leads to serious weight gain..

As for the genetics aspect... Mrs tells me that less than 5% of the population stay thin or gain weight based on their genes... For the rest of us its all down to hard work and ongoing discipline..

Damo810

I'd walk through it in all honesty, even if I was at nothing. Boredom eating would be part of it too but before I got sick about 2 weeks ago I was trying to get back into shape (not that I was fat, just unfit). Hopefully start up again this week now, don't want to go to the stage of doing feck all at collage and ending up overweight. I just have an awful fast metabolism though, I could have a big fry-up at half 8 and still be hungry by 11 :P

At 5' 10" and 11 stone (70kg) i'm not overweight at all. I would have been underweight if anything growing up. The plan was to add mass by weight lifting and eventually reach around 75kg-80kg while staying lean..

bbam

Damo810 wrote: »

I'd walk through it in all honesty, even if I was at nothing. Boredom eating would be part of it too but before I got sick about 2 weeks ago I was trying to get back into shape (not that I was fat, just unfit). Hopefully start up again this week now, don't want to go to the stage of doing feck all at collage and ending up overweight. I just have an awful fast metabolism though, I could have a big fry-up at half 8 and still be hungry by 11 :P

At 5' 10" and 11 stone (70kg) i'm not overweight at all. I would have been underweight if anything growing up. The plan was to add mass by weight lifting and eventually reach around 75kg-80kg while staying lean..

I get from your college comment that your on the younger side.. Your metabilism takes stepped drops about each decade birthday.. So when your north of 40 its a tad harder to drop a few lbs

Zr105

bbam wrote: »

But we're not all Ian Thorpe..
For the average person with huge expenditure and consumption the problem hits when the huge expenditure of calories comes to an end... it takes serious planning and discipline to reduce the calorie intake to match the drop in activity, fine for Ian Thorp as he probably has his own dietician, exercise team and its all planned.. But for the average Joe Shmow it typically leads to serious weight gain..

As for the genetics aspect... Mrs tells me that less than 5% of the population stay thin or gain weight based on their genes... For the rest of us its all down to hard work and ongoing discipline..

would have always gained weight over the winter as a young lad for that very reason, never been big into sport or anything,but during the summer id have been out and working, then over winter it would be sit around in school then home and do dam all really, but all the time diet would never have changed..

tipping about 95kg atm, dont eat much junk food but always would have eaten a good dinner, but lately trying to cut back on it abit and combined with being out working the hole time now starting to drop a bit of weight thanfully!

ABlur

As for the genetics aspect... Mrs tells me that less than 5% of the population stay thin or gain weight based on their genes... For the rest of us its all down to hard work and ongoing discipline..[/quote]

Would agree there. I can recall college where a fat person would be the exception now its almost the norm. I was in Gmit lately and couldn't get over the levels of overweight students, Mind you the canteen food had a lot to answer for, pure muck. Do students eat that canteen/takeaway stuff all the time or does anyone cook their own food anymore? Oh and the student carpark there was full suppose no one cycles anymore?

Juniorhurler

ABlur wrote: »

As for the genetics aspect... Mrs tells me that less than 5% of the population stay thin or gain weight based on their genes... For the rest of us its all down to hard work and ongoing discipline..

Would agree there. I can recall college where a fat person would be the exception now its almost the norm. I was in Gmit lately and couldn't get over the levels of overweight students, Mind you the canteen food had a lot to answer for, pure muck. Do students eat that canteen/takeaway stuff all the time or does anyone cook their own food anymore? Oh and the student carpark there was full suppose no one cycles anymore?[/QUOTE]

I work with teenagers all day as a secondary school teacher. The food choices are ridiculous. It mainly comes from home. Very few bring a packed lunch. Chicken fillet rolls are the norm unfortunately.

Damo810

Juniorhurler wrote: »

I work with teenagers all day as a secondary school teacher. The food choices are ridiculous. It mainly comes from home. Very few bring a packed lunch. Chicken fillet rolls are the norm unfortunately.

And chips would be the big thing here too now that a local shop will deliver them up, with rolls etc. Bananas and ham sandwiches here. Plenty would be having crisps etc at break, I used to be the same when younger but i'd be starving after so that had to change! In all honesty it's now wonder so many are overweight when they pare their diet with little to no exercise..

Funnily enough this showed up on my FB newsfeed just now

Genghis Cant

bbam wrote: »

But we're not all Ian Thorpe..
For the average person with huge expenditure and consumption the problem hits when the huge expenditure of calories comes to an end... it takes serious planning and discipline to reduce the calorie intake to match the drop in activity, fine for Ian Thorp as he probably has his own dietician, exercise team and its all planned.. But for the average Joe Shmow it typically leads to serious weight gain..

As for the genetics aspect... Mrs tells me that less than 5% of the population stay thin or gain weight based on their genes... For the rest of us its all down to hard work and ongoing discipline..

There's only one Ian Thorp. The point I was making is that even if you are consuming 10000 Kcals, but burning it, you will have no net gain.

I mentioned genetics too, but at the end of the list and preceeded with "probably". I'm not for a second suggesting genetics has a massive role, but it does have a role.
There's a ticking timebomb goin on in this country at the moment, the odd school run I do is some eye opener. It aint the kids fault, but it's them that's goin to pay a heavy toll.

TEAT SQUEEZER

Genghis Cant wrote: »

There's only one Ian Thorp. The point I was making is that even if you are consuming 10000 Kcals, but burning it, you will have no net gain.

I mentioned genetics too, but at the end of the list and preceeded with "probably". I'm not for a second suggesting genetics has a massive role, but it does have a role.
There's a ticking timebomb goin on in this country at the moment, the odd school run I do is some eye opener. It aint the kids fault, but it's them that's goin to pay a heavy toll.

agree... schools have a healthy eating policy re lunches but parents totally disregard it if reports from our little ones are accurate ...

Genghis Cant

TEAT SQUEEZER wrote: »

agree... schools have a healthy eating policy re lunches but parents totally disregard it if reports from our little ones are accurate ...

Only last week in my local school they had a Vegetable tasting themed event. I thought it was a great idea, it think it's an ongoing thing where the kids have to simply taste a wide variety of fruit/veg over time.
The buck stops at home though!

biddy2013

TEAT SQUEEZER wrote: »

agree... schools have a healthy eating policy re lunches but parents totally disregard it if reports from our little ones are accurate ...

OUR school has a healthy eating policy. youngestt lad has me driven mental each morning, is this healthy etc. Daughter has been known to throw out what i have packed and put crap in her lunch box:mad: Last year when eldest lad was in 6th class, i would make a sandwich for him and he would have blueberries or sugar snap peas in his lunch box too. 4 out of the 5 days the dog would get his lunch so he was eating nothing from 8.30am til 3pm:(

bbam

Tough going getting them right. Sister has similar trouble with her lass.

Beautiful morning here. Just collected eldest from swimming and doing school run. Pancake mix done and in the fridge for evening, yum, love pancakes. !!