Heifer prices 2015/2016

Henwin

blackdog1 wrote: »

I put heifers in donedeal last year when there was no market for them supposedly. Got 30 calls in a day just based on pictures. No one wanted to know about ebi. Had them sold the next day for 1600. Farmer looked at my heifers and cows that was it. Good stock sells. Breeding heifers I would say 900-1000 unless you have stock like stan and mahoney

cool, thanks. ill let u know how they get on

mahoney_j

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I never said it was. Have you any more cows from that bull?
Maybe it was just a bad cross?
Your in a unique position where you can be picky with bulls you pick and cows you keep.
Fertility is the number one in my book. If ye don't have that then that's Where ye start.
Mine us only 84 here so want to rise it alot

Everyone should be picky with the bulls they use,fertility is key yes but u could end up with a massively fertile cow with a small volume of milk which is now why the ai companies are looking for bulls with high milk sub index.ebi is delievering but occasionally it can throw up a bad one,equally I have 3 cows with very low ebi bred by lord Lilly who constantly bring super stock and go in calf every year doing large volumes of milk and solids

Greengrass1

mahoney_j wrote: »

Everyone should be picky with the bulls they use,fertility is key yes but u could end up with a massively fertile cow with a small volume of milk which is now why the ai companies are looking for bulls with high milk sub index.ebi is delievering but occasionally it can throw up a bad one,equally I have 3 cows with very low ebi bred by lord Lilly who constantly bring super stock and go in calf every year doing large volumes of milk and solids

Yes but if you look at the bulls in the book there is very little wrong with them in type wise unless you are being very picky.
Equally I have cows low on fert that are hard got back in calf. Ye do have to pick and choose your cows though on what bulls you use on them.

Gillespy

Even type bulls used incorrectly used can throw poorly structured cows. More likely to happen with EBI as it simply doesn't matter. It actually rewards poor type. There aren't too many bulls over €250 that have reasonable type. The dam and the generations of breeding gone into here is going to have to do a lot of work to protect some of these bulls. Nice that the guys that played their game have realized it's a bit more than breeding by numbers.

stanflt

Gillespy wrote: »

Even type bulls used incorrectly used can throw poorly structured cows. More likely to happen with EBI as it simply doesn't matter. It actually rewards poor type. There aren't too many bulls over €250 that have reasonable type. The dam and the generations of breeding gone into here is going to have to do a lot of work to protect some of these bulls. Nice that the guys that played their game have realized it's a bit more than breeding by numbers.

What would you do with an smr bull that is 297 Ebi. Milk sub index of 101 and had a type figure of 1.7uddet 1.9 f&l and 1.67 overall

stanflt

mahoney_j wrote: »

stanflt wrote: »

Expecting results of mine back this week,hope I get a phone call and not a text!!.13 gone so far.i have one praticular pkr bull that dovea,euro gene and ncbc all sent me letters for and also got a phone call from dovea and ncbc just to check he isxstill there.fingers crossed.presume if a calf is selected they take him fairly quick.congrats also by the way!!!.what sort of ebi are we talking about

good luck tomorrow

mahoney_j

stanflt wrote: »

mahoney_j wrote: »

good luck tomorrow

Thanks stan,sent off 2 on Tuesday got a text from ncbc today saying that they are only testing obe of them due to them exceeding there genotyping target.anyway fingers crossed!!

mahoney_j

stanflt wrote: »

What would you do with an smr bull that is 297 Ebi. Milk sub index of 101 and had a type figure of 1.7uddet 1.9 f&l and 1.67 overall

Bit of research to be done to improve on that!!

stanflt

mahoney_j wrote: »

Bit of research to be done to improve on that!!

ncbc didnt want him

mahoney_j

mahoney_j wrote: »

stanflt wrote: »

Thanks stan,sent off 2 on Tuesday got a text from ncbc today saying that they are only testing obe of them due to them exceeding there genotyping target.anyway fingers crossed!!

Got the feckin text ,first batch of 6 tested didn't want any if them.ebi ranging 362,337,328,325,300 and 236.ah well maby next week.7 more awaiting results.gen evaluation reports to follow.

stanflt

mahoney_j wrote: »

mahoney_j wrote: »

Got the feckin text ,first batch of 6 tested didn't want any if them.ebi ranging 362,337,328,325,300 and 236.ah well maby next week.7 more awaiting results.gen evaluation reports to follow.

There serious ebis that I could only dream of- your fertility must be excellent

I think the bulls have to be over 200 kg of milk this year because of the re evaluation coming in August

Milked out

stanflt wrote: »

Milked out wrote: »

thats a great cow imo
good solid type and great milk and fertility
whens he available

Hopefully straws will be out in jan, he'd be 14 months at the end of dec, all going well.

stanflt

Got another phone call

Calf is out of a lovely hva from An flt grand dam

mahoney_j

stanflt wrote: »

Got another phone call

Calf is out of a lovely hva from An flt grand dam

Congrats again!!.question if ncbc reject a calf could I approach dovea or lic or would they have access to the report to view??.ncbc are testing all mine even though I got letters from dovea and lic for some

stanflt

mahoney_j wrote: »

Congrats again!!.question if ncbc reject a calf could I approach dovea or lic or would they have access to the report to view??.ncbc are testing all mine even though I got letters from dovea and lic for some

I would offer calves to other companies all they can say is no

Next evaluation is out in April
Your calves could go up

Milked out

stanflt wrote: »

Got another phone call

Calf is out of a lovely hva from An flt grand dam

Well done, your on a roll this year. Did FLTs' dam have many daughters or is she still knocking about herself?

Sam Kade

No mad prices for dairy stock in Corrin today maiden heifers average wt 314 kg average price €703 calves first 3 made €230-260 rest unsold @ €150