Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread III

irishbucsfan

.ak wrote: »

Olding is coming into the bracket of absolutely-rotten-luck injuries. No relation to any of the previous injuries, and always happening before an international window.

Loads and loads of young players go through that period. Rob Kearney was the same, there were posters here saying we should give up on Rob Kearney as a player because he would never be fit etc.

Just seems to be that there's a period in a young players' development where they're prone to those sorts of injuries, most make it through but unfortunately some don't (O'Malley/Pollock etc.)

P.Walnuts

So is Henshaw 12 and Fitz 13 a non runner then?

total former

P.Walnuts wrote: »

So is Henshaw 12 and Fitz 13 a non runner then?

I think it's as likely as it was before the Olding news tbh. If Joe was happy with how Henshaw - Payne went against South Africa, then there would be no reason why he couldn't swap Fitz for Payne and try it again.

Or just pick Henshaw - Payne again...

MattD

I thought even without Oldings injury he wouldn't make a matchday squad. Maybe hed have made the extended squad but;

Henshaw - Payne/Fitzgerald

Darcy - Henshaw

Were always going to be the combinations picked on matchday.

vienne86

P.Walnuts wrote: »

So is Henshaw 12 and Fitz 13 a non runner then?

No it isn't, and I would like to see it. But I think D'Arcy will start.

Edit: forgot about Paye. Could be the Payne/Henshaw combo again.

NoelJ

When's the squad announced?

irishbucsfan

NoelJ wrote: »

When's the squad announced?

Thursday

total former

The squad announcement will be a serious anti-climax at this stage, so many injuries mean very few contentious calls left.

Sanjuro

total former wrote: »

The squad announcement will be a serious anti-climax at this stage, so many injuries mean very few contentious calls left.

What surprises would there have been anyway? We pretty much know what the pool of players are and who's injured. What's going to be interesting is if the likes of SOB, Healy, Henderson, Trimble and some of the younger players are going to be in the squad.

.ak

Depends if Zebo is fit. If he isn't, we could see Fitzgerald on the wing, so Payne and Henshaw could be the midfield.

.ak

total former wrote: »

The squad announcement will be a serious anti-climax at this stage, so many injuries mean very few contentious calls left.

Honestly can't see any surprises. However, the starting backline has a tonne of different possibilities for once, which will make it interesting... provided nobody else gets injured, touch wood.

bilston

MattD wrote: »

I thought even without Oldings injury he wouldn't make a matchday squad. Maybe hed have made the extended squad but;

Henshaw - Payne/Fitzgerald

Darcy - Henshaw

Were always going to be the combinations picked on matchday.

Disagree, I think Olding may have been ahead of D'Arcy now. But Henshaw/Fitzgerald was always most likely and remains so.

bilston

The bad news is there is another weekend of European rugby ahead...fair chance someone else will join the infirmary...

Podge_irl

total former wrote: »

He was always the front runner anyway IMO.

Probably.

Will be interesting to see if he starts this weekend though. Hardly ideal for him to be coming into the 6N off the back of benching for Leinster's two most important games of the season.

.ak

bilston wrote: »

The bad news is there is another weekend of European rugby ahead...fair chance someone else will join the infirmary...

You'd imagine so, especially with Leinster having so many front runners in their do-or-die match. Ulster and Munster can afford to properly rest players.

Fireball07

Sanjuro wrote: »

What surprises would there have been anyway? We pretty much know what the pool of players are and who's injured. What's going to be interesting is if the likes of SOB, Healy, Henderson, Trimble and some of the younger players are going to be in the squad.

I'm going to guess No, Maybe, No, No and there may be a couple of younger players like Marmion & Henshaw involved. Doubt anyone younger makes it.

Clegg

Ian Keatley now likely to make the 23 for the Italy game.

Christ.

Sanjuro

Fireball07 wrote: »

I'm going to guess No, Maybe, No, No and there may be a couple of younger players like Marmion & Henshaw involved. Doubt anyone younger makes it.

You're probably right. But there are soundings of SOB returning to action, the Belfast Telegraph is reporting Henderson is in line for return this weekend, then there's Earls to take into consideration. It'll be interesting on Thursday, but probably unsurprising.

.ak

Clegg wrote: »

Ian Keatley now likely to make the 23 for the Italy game.

Christ.

I can't think of anyone else in the 22 jersey. He won't get on the pitch unless we romp it (unlikely) or there's an injury (likely).

irishbucsfan

.ak wrote: »

I can't think of anyone else in the 22 jersey. He won't get on the pitch unless we romp it (unlikely) or there's an injury (likely).

Wouldn't be surprised at all if he's brought on into midfield beside Madigan after 60 minutes or so. They worked really well together before. Would love to see them playing the same way with his holiness (the second coming) Henshaw outside them.

.ak

They played well together against a tired Georgia... This will be a different animal all together.

accidentprone1

Clegg wrote: »

Ian Keatley now likely to make the 23 for the Italy game.

Christ.

Shows how valuable it is that Schmidt has given gametime to multiple outhalves.

Zzippy

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Wouldn't be surprised at all if he's brought on into midfield beside Madigan after 60 minutes or so. They worked really well together before. Would love to see them playing the same way with his holiness (the second coming) Henshaw outside them.

BOD's representative on earth?

S12b

Could have been a lot worse for Henshaw, I'd say he will be fine for Italy!!

http://inpho.ie/media/zh5ur156bDh3aNQg4Nietg..a?ts=wrJgrFJJ81JZACIuNs311ICPadzQTRik0Onse-RKWf4.a

http://inpho.ie/media/w5ronUFAOIvjqWlmA2RwAg..a?ts=wrJgrFJJ81JZACIuNs311FbzJ9eAogO_twWB5Z6-FIE.a

Neil3030

Was Henshaw ever seated at the right hand of the father?

I.e., has he ever played alongside BOD at centre?

rrpc

total former wrote: »

The official story is that he injured his neck running into the post while scoring a try against Zebre, but there seems to be a lingering suggestion that he may have concussion issues.

He banged heads with a defender before scoring the try, he almost could have been described as falling over the line. The post wasn't a factor.

It looked bad at the time, concussion seems likely.

Tox56

Neil3030 wrote: »

Was Henshaw ever seated at the right hand of the father?

I.e., has he ever played alongside BOD at centre?

He replaced him off the bench for Ireland once but that's it

dregin

Neil3030 wrote: »

Was Henshaw ever seated at the right hand of the father?

I.e., has he ever played alongside BOD at centre?

Think the closest he came was replacing BOD against Australia in the 2013 Autumn internationals.

vienne86

Neil3030 wrote: »

Was Henshaw ever seated at the right hand of the father?

I.e., has he ever played alongside BOD at centre?

Suspect they've just trained together. Sounds like BOD has a bit of a mentoring role wit Henshaw.

vienne86

vienne86 wrote: »

Suspect they've just trained together. Sounds like BOD has a bit of a mentoring role wit Henshaw.

Hey - were not allowed talk about players mentoring other players in this thread.