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Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,140 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    rinasha wrote: »
    when is the train line to shannon opening

    About the same time man lands on the sun.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    rinasha wrote: »
    when is the train line to shannon opening

    You posted this on another forum too, where are you getting the notion that a rail line to Shannon will be built? I wouldn't hold my breath.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99




  • Registered Users Posts: 3 rinasha


    I seen it on an irish independent article from 2003. just wondering if it was still going ahead that's all


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Quite a lot has happened in the past 15 years. The recession, falling passenger numbers at Shannon and an anti rail government are some


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,140 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    rinasha wrote: »
    I seen it on an irish independent article from 2003. just wondering if it was still going ahead that's all

    Bit bizzare that you'd take a 2003 article as current, 15 years old!

    No chance of a railway, not in 2003, not in 2018, probably not ever sadly. It wouldn't make sense to have a spur off the Limerick-Ennis line as it would just increase journey times to a ridiculous extent. Only realistic alignment would to be to put in a new line running via Shannon and not via sixmilebridge, but the cost of that would be into the billions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    rinasha wrote: »
    when is the train line to shannon opening

    Pie in the sky.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    The CSO statistics for October are out.

    Chicago's season down -4.1%
    Philadelphia's season up +2.7%

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,140 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Passenger numbers are released later each year!

    We know they'll be down, by how much is the question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Top holiday show returns to Limerick (Clare Herald)

    The strength of the holiday market will be evidenced this weekend as the largest Holiday Show ever held in the region takes place at UL Arena on Saturday and Sunday next, 3rd and 4th February.

    Now in its third year, the Holiday Show, in association with Shannon Airport, will have over 90 exhibitors, including airlines, hotels, cruise companies, travel agents, tourist boards, tour operators, tourist attractions and more.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 608 ✭✭✭mdmix


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Bit bizzare that you'd take a 2003 article as current, 15 years old!

    No chance of a railway, not in 2003, not in 2018, probably not ever sadly. It wouldn't make sense to have a spur off the Limerick-Ennis line as it would just increase journey times to a ridiculous extent. Only realistic alignment would to be to put in a new line running via Shannon and not via sixmilebridge, but the cost of that would be into the billions.

    The Ennis line runs parallel to the n18 before turning off to 6 mile bridge. There is around 7km of track needed to continue to the airport. It cost approx 10 million pounds per km of train track in the UK, so surely we could manage to connect Shannon to Limerick for under 100 million euro.

    Anyway, a train would be nice but hardly a priority. It would be great if a study was done on this for a few years down the line. For now I would be happy with better/cheaper bus connections.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,140 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    mdmix wrote: »
    The Ennis line runs parallel to the n18 before turning off to 6 mile bridge. There is around 7km of track needed to continue to the airport. It cost approx 10 million pounds per km of train track in the UK, so surely we could manage to connect Shannon to Limerick for under 100 million euro.

    Anyway, a train would be nice but hardly a priority. It would be great if a study was done on this for a few years down the line. For now I would be happy with better/cheaper bus connections.

    And just have the airport as a terminal (pun intended) destination? Would fail spectacularly! You'd have to have it as a through route which means you'd have to connect it at the other end to Ennis, which would cost near a billion by the time you build a new line, a station at Shannon (would you build one in the town as well?) or just the airport? You won't likely won't get 10m a KM here!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Or perhaps a spur at SMB like Howth Junction-Howth on the DART? anyway no point in duscussing it as it will never happen


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,140 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Shn99 wrote: »
    Or perhaps a spur at SMB like Howth Junction-Howth on the DART? anyway no point in duscussing it as it will never happen

    I'd agree won't happen, but a spur in itself wouldn't work as you'd either
    1). Add a significant amount of time to the Limerick-Ennis/Galway service removing any viability to the line or
    2). Run a completely uneconomical shuttle service to pick up a handful of passengers at Shannon.

    It would be an operational and financial nightmare.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    The UK Airport Provisional Statistics for December are out.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,140 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Bizzarely no 2017 full year figures yet.

    Interesting to see all UK routes with an increase in December, no particular reason why either.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Training institute plans to train 2,000 aircraft maintenance engineers (Irish Times)

    A Shannon-based aviation training institute which has grown out of the firm formerly known as Tranaero, has announced plans to train more than 2,000 aircraft maintenance engineers over the next decade to meet a global shortage.

    The move comes as the Atlantic Aviation Institute recently received approval from the Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) for its 24-months long training programme, which includes a year’s practical experience working on aircraft.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    Bizzarely no 2017 full year figures yet.

    Interesting to see all UK routes with an increase in December, no particular reason why either.

    Birmingham increased from 6 flights a week to daily flights in 2017.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,140 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Birmingham increased from 6 flights a week to daily flights in 2017.

    Oops had forgotten when that happened, and I was the one that reported it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    US scientists chasing storms off Ireland (Clare Herald)

    A United States “hurricane hunter” aircraft and a team of storm chasers have set up camp in Ireland as they undertake weather reconnaissance missions over the North Atlantic.

    The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Lockheed WP-3D Orion, known as “Kermit”, arrived in Ireland from Florida via Canada and will based at Shannon Airport for the month of February.

    This is the second year the project has operated out of Shannon having previously been based in Nova Scotia, Canada. The aircraft has already undertaken a number of missions since arriving in Ireland.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,140 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    6th February, no passenger numbers for 2017 yet?

    I assume they're hoping to release them quietly if it all, could be disappointing. May have to wait for the CSO figures to be out!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


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    Passenger jet diverts to Shannon after crew reported smoke on board (Irish Examiner)

    British Airways flight BA-213 was en route from London to Boston at the time. There were 239 passengers and crew on board.

    The Boeing 777-200 jet was about an hour into its journey when the crew alerted air traffic controllers to the problem. The flight crew reported that smoke had been detected on board and requested permission to divert to Shannon.

    The airline has arranged for a replacement aircraft to fly to Shannon to take customers onto Boston.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Shannon - Commercial Movements (IAA)

    |Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sept|Oct|Nov|Dec|Total
    2015|1,253|1,026|1,277|1,454|1,725|2,169|2,058|1,728|1,780|1,645|1,283|1,312|18,710
    2016|1,222|1,128|1,390|1,488|1,807|2,031|2,032|1,834|1,839|1,698|1,353|1,327|19,149
    2017|1,291|1,215|1,429|1,446|1,776|1,975|1,949|1,885|1,778|1,796|1,440|1,316|19,296
    2018|1,301||||||||||||
    Change|+0.8%||||||||||||


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Air traffic controllers told to work beyond overtime limits by union (Independent)

    Air traffic controllers have been told by their trade union to work beyond agreed safety and fatigue limits because of staffing shortages in the control tower at Shannon Airport.

    If controllers refuse to go along with the union and Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) deal to extend the overtime limitations it could lead to staff shortages and potential disruption.
    Have they reduced staffing levels with respect to the setting up of the Remote Air Traffic Control in Dublin for Shannon Airport?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    Jobs for Shannon Free Zone as aviation company announces expansion (Limerick Leader)

    A NEWLY merged aviation company has announced an expansion at the Shannon Free Zone that will double its workforce.

    The newly merged aviation company STS UJet has announced the creation of 28 jobs at its Shannon operation over the next two years.

    The aircraft interior modification and refurbishment specialist, previously trading as indigenous Irish company UJet Group, has announced that it is expanding its business operation and establishing a European Hub at Shannon Free Zone following a merger with US company STS Component Solutions.

    “The company are taking newly refurbished facilities totalling 38,000 sq ft in Shannon Free Zone. In expanding the component repair capability of the Aviation Cluster at Shannon, STS UJet is greatly enhancing the versatility of the International Aviation Services Centre.”


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    A well needed boost.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,140 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Very good news, to summarize:

    *Liverpool 3pw
    *Bristol 2pw,
    *Manchester - increasing from 4pw to 6pw.

    Didnt see it coming, but will do very well to increase passenger numbers and sustainability at the airport as well as giving very important connectivity.

    Each increase translates as 1 extra daily flight from Shannon, which provides number of extra passengers on a very well loaded 737-800. All flights operated on non based aircraft.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,403 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Not showing on the Ryanair site as yet.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    Was alway surprised by the lack of a liverpool service from shannon.. can see it doing well.


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