[Superthread] Mayweather vs Pacman **NO STREAMING REQUESTS**

CountingCrows

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

If either of these boxers had to fight a heavy weight say klitschko is there any chance at all they could win.

:eek:

Halloween Jack

Panic E wrote: »

I think we will see a sincere effort from both. I can't say much about the rest though, everything is stacked in Floyd's favour.

Not much has ever been honest and true from one side in this. Speaking of PED's, at least we know Manny is a clean fighter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ1RcmBCihg

How exactly can you claim to know manny is clean?

Not saying he's not by the way.

efb

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walshb

CountingCrows wrote: »

:eek:

I find those questions interesting. Like how 122 lbs Rigondeaux would fare against 147 lbs Manny or Floyd.

More interesting would be a 175-180 lbs Kovalev against a 240 lbs Klitschko!

dinorebel

Bottle of Jim Beam bought rake of snacks to be got today and beers in the fridge just need to contain the excitement now.

Panic E

Halloween Jack wrote: »

How exactly can you claim to know manny is clean?

Not saying he's not by the way.

Well surely he is presumed clean anyway? His whole career is a testament.

Aside from that- he takes VADA testing every fight, it's the most stringent.

No dirty fighter would agree to that (and neither will Mayweather as an aside)

efb

Can we drop the drugs talk- some of ye are like a bingo bus with all the gossip

Halloween Jack

Panic E wrote: »

Well surely he is presumed clean anyway? His whole career is a testament.

Aside from that- he takes VADA testing every fight, it's the most stringent.

No dirty fighter would agree to that (and neither will Mayweather as an aside)

His whole career is the reason people are suspicious, moving through 8 divisions, retaining power and KO'ing naturally much bigger men is pretty unusual, and some would suggest, pretty difficult without cheating.

Vada are certainly the most stringent testing org in fight sports, but unfortunately all testing regimes are inherently beatable.

All we have is hearsay and conjecture that either man Id guilty of anything, it's down to individuals to make their own judgement as to who they feel is clean, etc. what I will say is it's daft to suggest with certainty that somebody is clean while casting aspersions on another.

Personally I'm beyond the point of ever presuming any athlete is clean anymore, people will obviously have differing views but that's where I'm at with modern sports in general.

Halloween Jack

efb wrote: »

Can we drop the drugs talk- some of ye are like a bingo bus with all the gossip

In fairness the issue has been a subplot to this fight since 2010, pointless expecting people not to discuss it.

efb

Halloween Jack wrote: »

In fairness the issue has been a subplot to this fight since 2010, pointless expecting people not to discuss it.

It's not allowed for One

walshb

Panic E wrote: »

Well surely he is presumed clean anyway? His whole career is a testament.

Passing the relevant drugs test? Sure who gives a fcuk about that?:rolleyes:

I am being ironic BTW.

Panic E

Halloween Jack wrote: »

Vada are certainly the most stringent testing org in fight sports

Did you watch the video you quoted?

There's a good one about Heredia too!

Halloween Jack wrote: »

All we have is hearsay and conjecture that either man Id guilty of anything,

All we have is hearsay and conjecture that Pacquiao is guilty of that.

He's not the first person to move up in weight and beat bigger guys.

Sugar Ray Robison is one example and I'm sure there are many more.

Halloween Jack wrote: »

what I will say is it's daft to suggest with certainty that somebody is clean while casting aspersions on another.

On the other hand we have a guy (Mayweather) with all the evidence!

He goes for vampire facials, blood doping, gets a pass for the Xylocaine.

Wont do VADA. Has tested dirty several times but gets exemptions etc.

So really it's not when you take all of the evidence into consideration, no.

Kirby

We need a mod called Mayweather. For balance. :P

Halloween Jack

efb wrote: »

It's not allowed for One

The charter forbids making unfounded allegations against fighters. Doesn't say anything about discussing doping in general.

walshb

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/5/1/8527909/mayweather-pacquiao-weigh-in-live-stream-online-video

Not sure if Sky Sports are showing it live. Haven't checked their schedule for today.

It appears that it's not. Poor form.

stephenl15

Why can't people talk about PED's. It's relevent to the discussion of the fight after all and adds to the discussion.

boxer.fan

Looks like I'm not going to be near a telly for this. Does anyone on here know of a reputable online source where I could purchase this fight??

Panic E

The weigh in isn't until late tonight? I wasn't aware of that charter here.

If someone brings up PED's though they could at least try and stick to facts.

efb

stephenl15 wrote: »

Why can't people talk about PED's. It's relevent to the discussion of the fight after all and adds to the discussion.

Unsubstantiated allegations or hinting at same could get boards in legal hot water that's why

walshb

boxer.fan wrote: »

Looks like I'm not going to be near a telly for this. Does anyone on here know of a reputable online source where I could purchase this fight??

https://my.sky.com/orderboxoffice/

efb

walshb wrote: »

https://my.sky.com/orderboxoffice/

It's NOT on sky online (Sky Go)

walshb

efb wrote: »

It's NOT on sky online (Sky Go)

I'm not with you. That's a link to book the fight for your home account.

efb

walshb wrote: »

I'm not with you. That's a link to book the fight for your home account.

Book to watch via sky box linked to tv, not online on sky go platform

efb

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walshb

efb wrote: »

Book to watch via sky box linked to tv, not online on sky go platform

I read the request as an online source to purchase the fight, not necessarily an online source to purchase and watch.

I interpreted it incorrectly.

efb

I read it as near TV to watch- it can be booked by phone..
I'm sure Boxer Fan will clarify. I don't want anyone paying €25 and not seeing it

MarkY91

just put my order in to upc. pity they dont offer the fight in hd as it is 2015 after all. ah well

Panic E

MarkY91 wrote: »

just put my order in to upc. pity they dont offer the fight in hd as it is 2015 after all. ah well

Strange one alright, I was wondering the same.

MayPac

Hi guys. Hoping someone can answer a couple of questions about the boxing titles in as simple a way as possible. Firstly, I see Mayweather is the WBA SUPER champion while Kevin Thurman is the regular champion. What did Mayweather do to achieve this status? And if Pacquiao were to win on Saturday, would he become super champion or would he displace Thurman as regular champion, leaving no super champion? Also, if someone who holds 2 belts loses to someone with none, does the winner take both belts? Finally, after the fight on Saturday, will the winner be 1,2, or 3 fights away from unifying the division? Seen all suggested by various sources. Thanks in advance, been scouring the net for hours with no answer that makes any sense to me.

Talib Fiasco

MayPac wrote: »

Hi guys. Hoping someone can answer a couple of questions about the boxing titles in as simple a way as possible. Firstly, I see Mayweather is the WBA SUPER champion while Kevin Thurman is the regular champion. What did Mayweather do to achieve this status? And if Pacquiao were to win on Saturday, would he become super champion or would he displace Thurman as regular champion, leaving no super champion? Also, if someone who holds 2 belts loses to someone with none, does the winner take both belts? Finally, after the fight on Saturday, will the winner be 1,2, or 3 fights away from unifying the division? Seen all suggested by various sources. Thanks in advance, been scouring the net for hours with no answer that makes any sense to me.

He beat Marcos Maidana to win that belt... Boxing is very weird in the sense that there are belts for nearly everyone in a division (not even an exaggeration), from super champion to regular champion to silver champion etc. It's a joke, there should be only one champ per organisation... What it means for Thurman is that he's higher up the list of Floyd's mandatory fights but then again Floyd and mandatory doesn't exist.

Obviously Manny will become super champ if he wins as he is fighting the super champ Floyd, and not Thurman the regular champ. Floyd will be WBO champ if he wins as that's the belt Manny holds.

The winner of the belts depends what belts are on the line. Tomorrow, the WBA, WBC, The Ring and the WBO's belts are on the line so whoever wins will have all those belts. After tomorrow nights fight there will be only two welterweight champions (if indeed tomorrow doesn't end in a draw), Floyd/manny and Kell Brook, the IBF champ...therefore they are each one fight away from becoming undisputed champ after tomorrow.