KKVs Rav4 project

toyotaavensis

toyotaavensis wrote: »

Is it a petrol rav 4?
If so you have the same setup as me.

The oil filter is under the engine. You just pop off the plastic shield that stops stones from the road hitting the engine. Filter is just a little cylinder you screw off.
Screw on the new one after putting some oil on the rubber bit that touches the engine bloc.
Oil drain plug is nearby.
Open this let oil fall out tighten again,

Air filter is in the black plastic box unhook clips pull out and replace.

It is indeed a petrol version. Are you also in a Rav? (or an Avensis, as the name suggests? Are all Toyota Petrols laid out the same/similarly?)


All that stuff you said sounds fairly straight forward, but its stuff i can't really picture in my head (will be a handy post to refer to at the time of actually doing things, though)

colm_mcm

Is your cigarette lighter working?

colm_mcm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Your oil filter is a traditional metal cylinder type. That halfords one is quare fancy, a cheap strap type filter remover will be just fine.

Where would I find one of those thingies?

Should I assume that if i go into my motor factors, they'll have a tool for it, and anything over €20 would be unreasonable?

Bpmull

@kkv see this thread. I know it's not a rav4 but it has some pictures and gives a good explanation description of a basic service.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=57962207#post57962207

Yeah; there are two on the Rav and both seem to be 100% functional (one has my sat nav in it a lot, and the other used to charge the phone every once in a while).

Aside from losing steering wheel radio controls, everything seems to be fine. (I have lost both my 'side lights/parking lights', but i blame the panel beater for that, as they were working grand, im pretty sure, after i put the radio in).

SleeperService

toyotaavensis wrote: »

+1
never been in a motor factors where I havent thought that the lad behind the counter was sound.

I'm somewhere about 50/50 with motor factors. Some you rock up and everything goes smoothly, other places you feel like you landed from mars and asked for a Heisenberg compensator for a warp drive. This can go one of two ways - they stare at you in amazement til you beat a nervous retreat, or they give you a part you didn't ask for, for a car you don't own.

colm_mcm

Deleted User wrote: »

Where would I find one of those thingies?

Should I assume that if i go into my motor factors, they'll have a tool for it, and anything over €20 would be unreasonable?

Motor factors, cheapie hardware shore etc. no harm buying good tools but you won't save any money servicing once a year if you spend loads on stuff.

You can use a 7up bottle or similar as a funnel too if you cut half it off, make sure its clean of course.

SleeperService

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Where would I find one of those thingies?

Should I assume that if i go into my motor factors, they'll have a tool for it, and anything over €20 would be unreasonable?

Lidl had a basic one for about a fiver recently, most likely cleaned out now.

colm_mcm

By the by, I think the SRC button turns it on and holding it turns it off.

Bpmull

Bpmull wrote: »

@kkv see this thread. I know it's not a rav4 but it has some pictures and gives a good explanation description of a basic service.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=57962207#post57962207

I've looked through that thread before, alright. It's one of those 'too much information' threads. It's very detailed, but it goes above my head (owing ot my own stupidity, though, I'll admit).

I always find it easier to learn if you have someone with the patience to explain things to you (which i dont ever expect off anyone, but in fairness, a lot of the lads on the motors forum (and the detailing forum, especially) are good at hand holding you through your first time doing things.

Something which is probably a pain in the hole for people who are very experienced and get frustrated with me.. which i apologise for!

So do i need the 'torx' things then?

Oil filter remover tool (which we've discussed), a funnel/bottle, and a storage tank/bottle/etc for the old oil.

Is that everything?

MetzgerMeister

colm_mcm wrote: »

Motor factors, cheapie hardware shore etc. no harm buying good tools but you won't save any money servicing once a year if you spend loads on stuff.

You can use a 7up bottle or similar as a funnel too if you cut half it off, make sure its clean of course.

Nice nails Colm :pac:

YbFocus

Deleted User wrote: »

So do i need the 'torx' things then?

Oil filter remover tool (which we've discussed), a funnel/bottle, and a storage tank/bottle/etc for the old oil.

Is that everything?

Sorry KKV I am used to my BMW where you need torx for almost everything. If colm or the others can confirm you don't then your sorted with the above:)

YbFocus

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Nice nails Colm :pac:

Lovely sheen to them

colm_mcm

YbFocus wrote: »

Lovely sheen to them

gtechniq ftw.

corkgsxr

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

I've never changed pads myself but on my RX8, a friend's father who is a mechanic did and he bled them afterwards.

I just always thought that it had to be done.

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

Maybe!

I was always the push pads back and pads in and away. Quick as.

But last time and what ill probably always do now is clamp the rubber flex and open the bleed nipple as I push the pads back. That way the worst of the fluid is gone with any air. When you pump the brakes its all new fluid in.

toyotaavensis wrote: »

Halfords tend to be expensive for some things.
Compare prices with the local motor factors

Not with trade card.

colm_mcm wrote: »

I don't think you'll need torx for a Rav4, if you do need them they're €2 in Dealz. You won't need anything special anyway.

Mm id spend a tad more. The one you need will split to pieces just when you cant get another and cant use anything else.

MetzgerMeister

It's mainly German cars that use Torx screws while Jap cars use 10mm sockets for EVERYTHING

colm_mcm

colm_mcm wrote: »

By the by, I think the SRC button turns it on and holding it turns it off.

Must try that. Would you reckon its an issue with the head unit itself, then?

Bpmull

Deleted User wrote: »

So do i need the 'torx' things then?

Oil filter remover tool (which we've discussed), a funnel/bottle, and a storage tank/bottle/etc for the old oil.

Is that everything?

You will need a socket ratchet to remove the sump nut/ plug I don't know what type a rav4 has. You should be able to google it. Some just use a normal socket.

colm_mcm

Deleted User wrote: »

Must try that. Would you reckon its an issue with the head unit itself, then?

I wouldn't rule out human error

How is the headunit grounded? That's just a stab in the dark, but worth checking anyway

colm_mcm

colm_mcm wrote: »

I wouldn't rule out human error

Nor would I. I'd say it's far more likely, to be honest

How is the headunit grounded? That's just a stab in the dark, but worth checking anyway

I've no idea what you mean. I just followed a rough guide, blindly. I've no idea what I actually really did or such.

Bpmull

Bpmull wrote: »

You will need a socket ratchet to remove the sump nut/ plug I don't know what type a rav4 has. You should be able to google it. Some just use a normal socket.

I'm googling but not really finding much, to be honest. Ah, I'm sure i'll figure it out. I'll ask one of the lads if they know in motor factors (under the assumption that all petrol Toyotas of that year/general year would be the same)

colm_mcm

Is there a black wire screwed into the metal body of the radio?

colm_mcm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm googling but not really finding much, to be honest. Ah, I'm sure i'll figure it out. I'll ask one of the lads if they know in motor factors (under the assumption that all petrol Toyotas of that year/general year would be the same)

Its a 14mm socket you need.

colm_mcm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Is there a black wire screwed into the metal body of the radio?

Erm... looks something like a 3.5mm headphone jack of sorts?

If so, yeah.. but not screwed in i dont think. Just push it in..?

colm_mcm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Its a 14mm socket you need.

Ah perfect. Presumably the lads in Motor Factors will carry the tool required?

Colm, can i ask you, (or indeed, anyone), what you would guess a rough price would be for the other requirements (ie; the actual oil, filters, etc)?

I think I paid €130 or €140 for my service last time, so less than that, obviously (As that paid someone to do it for me).

colm_mcm

Oil €25 ish
Oil Filter €8 ish (Mann filter w68/3)
Very basic socket set €17
http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_157387_langId_-1_categoryId_290505

Oh.. all fairly cheapish so far anyway!

Care to guess an estimate for these? Also, Colm, would you be attending the Midway meet?!

Air Filter
Fuel Filter
Plugs

colm_mcm

Air filter is only about a tenner. You prob don't need fuel filter.

I went on the assumption that you'd be using 10w40 oil. There are those that would recommend 5w30 for that engine. Not sure where I stand on that one tbh.

Plugs would be about €20.

You could get everything you need on micksgarage tbh.

Re the meet, I'm 50/50

Just ran this up on micksgarage for the craic

colm_mcm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Air filter is only about a tenner. You prob don't need fuel filter.

I went on the assumption that you'd be using 10w40 oil. There are those that would recommend 5w30 for that engine. Not sure where I stand on that one tbh.

I was actually about to ask you that. From googling around 5w30 seems to be appearing. Does it really make a big difference? I'm not sure what's in it at the moment (I doubt there's any way of telling?) but the Rav doesn't exactly seem to be swallowing it.