Formula 1 2014: General Discussion Thread

22-01-2014 11:10am

The new paint scheme look fantastic.

ZiabR · 22-01-2014 11:29am

Love the paint scheme and the car looks lovely. Not worried at all

More on it here: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/01/22/force-india-reveal-first-picture-vjm07/

GarIT · 22-01-2014 11:29am

My reaction was "That is a F**king nice car"

GarIT · 22-01-2014 11:36am

logik wrote: »

Number two looks brutal and would make no sense with a lump of carbon right in the middle of the nose which would essentially block airflow that would normally be directed onto the floor.

I don't mind 1 or 3.

I think they have to have it there to support the wing. This year the wing has to be far ahead of a high short nose or closer to a long low nose. Teams want a high nose but then have nothing to attatch the wing to.

KarlFitz01 · 22-01-2014 11:37am

That car is not as bad as I was expecting and I really like the new Livery.

SnowDrifts · 22-01-2014 12:02pm

Liking the new livery but I'm sure there is a reason they are only showing the car from one angle!!:D

eviltimeban · 22-01-2014 1:19pm

I think it looks great. I was a bit confused over the detailing over the "R" in Sahara, looks like the intake is a stepped design, almost looks like a helmet!

This car looks fast.

ZiabR · 22-01-2014 1:31pm

eviltimeban wrote: »

This car looks fast.

You cant say that. A cars looks really don't say much about its speed. It could look like a foot but be the fastest car on the grid or be the most beautiful car ever and be a dog on the track.

Roll on testing!

Jordan 199 · 22-01-2014 2:13pm

I see Force India have Claro on board now.

Gillespy · 22-01-2014 2:56pm

We still need to hear the cars on track and see how races will pan out with such limited fuel but I think they won't look as horrible as some first feared.

22-01-2014 3:12pm

Not a fan of the livery, all those colours will blend into one from a distance.

SamAK · 22-01-2014 3:31pm

Gillespy wrote: »

We still need to hear the cars on track and see how races will pan out with such limited fuel but I think they won't look as horrible as some first feared.

With the turbo and the smooth V6, i'd imagine that the screamy crackle of the V8 is going to be replaced by whoooosh/hiss/tsh-tsh-tsh

As for looks, as long as these cars don't have that bloody fin/spine along the back like we saw in 2010, i'm happy.

PopePalpatine · 22-01-2014 3:34pm

The one thing that gives me hope for the sound of the new V6s is the "turbo era".

Of course, I'm probably forgetting that exhausts looked very different in those days.

SnowDrifts · 22-01-2014 4:01pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

The one thing that gives me hope for the sound of the new V6s is the "turbo era".

Of course, I'm probably forgetting that exhausts looked very different in those days.

Don't get your hopes up. A single tail pipe from a lower reving engine of which the turbo will take away some of the noise. Think of a hoover on steroids.

GarIT · 22-01-2014 4:14pm

SnowDrifts wrote: »

Think of a hoover on steroids.

Did you hear about Mclaren's car for next year, the successor to the McLaren Mercedes MP-49, is going to be McLaren MP-Honda 50.

eviltimeban · 22-01-2014 4:14pm

logik wrote: »

You cant say that. A cars looks really don't say much about its speed. It could look like a foot but be the fastest car on the grid or be the most beautiful car ever and be a dog on the track.

Well duh.

SnowDrifts · 22-01-2014 4:17pm

GarIT wrote: »

Did you hear about Mclaren's car for next year, the successor to the McLaren Mercedes MP-49, is going to be McLaren MP-Honda 50.

My little Honda 50..

greedygoblin · 22-01-2014 4:17pm

SnowDrifts wrote: »

Think of a hoover on steroids.

I don't know. I used to have a Nilfisk years back that made a fierce old racket. Reliable, but terribly slow.

ZiabR · 22-01-2014 4:24pm

SnowDrifts wrote: »

Don't get your hopes up. A single tail pipe from a lower reving engine of which the turbo will take away some of the noise. Think of a hoover on steroids.

Agreed, sadly

GarIT · 22-01-2014 4:29pm

Anyone know when Monza goes on sale? And should I be Looking for the general admission passes or seats at the chicane after the first straight?

My wonderful OH, LittleBlackDRS, is bringing me to Italy that weekend for my 21st. I've never been to a race before.

SamAK · 22-01-2014 4:40pm

GarIT wrote: »

Anyone know when Monza goes on sale? And should I be Looking for the general admission passes or seats at the chicane after the first straight?

My wonderful OH, LittleBlackDRS, is bringing me to Italy that weekend for my 21st. I've never been to a race before.

You lucky duck!!!

The ascari chicane would be great, either that or grandstand, plenty of action watching pit crews and what-not, plus the sound of 22 full bore take-offs at the start :eek:

GarIT · 22-01-2014 4:43pm

SamAK wrote: »

You lucky duck!!!

The ascari chicane would be great, either that or grandstand, plenty of action watching pit crews and what-not, plus the sound of 22 full bore take-offs at the start :eek:

I know I'm delighted

I haven't seen the prices yet but I assume the grand stand will be much too expensive, I was wondering if anyone know if you could get close to the chicane with the gen admission passes without getting into the stands. Being students and all we need to save every penny.

A better question would be are there any good spots that wouldn't require stand tickets to get to.

Jordan 199 · 22-01-2014 6:01pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

The one thing that gives me hope for the sound of the new V6s is the "turbo era".

Of course, I'm probably forgetting that exhausts looked very different in those days.

Take a look at this:

That is a Porsche 1.5 litre V6 Turbo engine that McLaren used in the 80's. Those engines powered Nikki Lauda to the win the 1984 Drivers Championship and Alain Prost to the 1985 and 1986 Drivers Championship.

The turbo engines that ran with the 'vee' configuration back in the 80's had two turbo chargers. The turbo engines with the 'inline' configuration just had one turbo charger.

Peanut Butter Jelly · 22-01-2014 10:22pm

Bahrain to be a night race in 2014 - Linky Link

Frankie Lee · 23-01-2014 1:33am

Less than 36 hours until we see the nose and livery of the McLaren. It feels like christmas.

dor83 · 23-01-2014 1:38am

GarIT wrote: »

I know I'm delighted

I haven't seen the prices yet but I assume the grand stand will be much too expensive, I was wondering if anyone know if you could get close to the chicane with the gen admission passes without getting into the stands. Being students and all we need to save every penny.

A better question would be are there any good spots that wouldn't require stand tickets to get to.

Here is a price list and stand map which should help.

I was there a few years ago and had General Admission tickets, we got a good spot for Quali right by the 2nd chicane where there was a small makeshift stand but on the Sunday there was no way you would get a spot there unless you camped there like the Italians. On the Sunday we went around to the straight before Ascari and there was plenty of space with views of a big screen but as we were on the straight the cars were just going by at high speed so it wasn't ideal.

One piece of advice for Monza, there is a lot of walking to get to the track and even more finding a spot with general admission so be prepared for that, it can also be quite hot at that time of year so plenty of water and sun block would be useful.

23-01-2014 1:46am

Maybe it was just me but from Spa I wouldn't be awfully worried about a viewing point. We spent the race between Bruxelles and Pouhon. Unless you want to be at an overtaking spot (which the straights are as good for now) it doesn't make a massive difference IMO. Use the Friday to find where you think you'd like for the race.