The next big thing in Health and Fitness

amazingemmet

So I normally quite good at spotting these trends but I'm stumped as to what is going to be the next big thing. While we're still in the thrall of the paleo diet anyone got any feelings as to what will follow.

I'm tending towards self diagnosis of parasites and fungal infections.

Anyone got any other guesses?

Hanley

Ido Portal/MovNat/Flow style stuff.

amazingemmet

Hanley wrote: »

Ido Portal/MovNat/Flow style stuff.

I find all this funny as its the sh!t that has been going on in the circus and dance world for the last 15 years so I have trouble taking it serious for some reason.

Hanley

amazingemmet wrote: »

I find all this funny as its the sh!t that has been going on in the circus and dance world for the last 15 years so I have trouble taking it serious for some reason.

As had strength training and clean eating in BB/PL/WL.

There's **** all new on the exercise side of things.

If I have anything to do wit it, the next big thing will be mental coaching. Understanding the whys of what you do, so it's no longer a battle against your own will power. It'll be about accepting who you are, why you do what you do, and working around that.

amazingemmet

Hanley wrote: »

If I have anything to do wit it, the next big thing will be mental coaching. Understanding the whys of what you do, so it's no longer a battle against your own will power. It'll be about accepting who you are, why you do what you do, and working around that.

Well ahead of you on that one, been devouring anything I can find on embodiment, have gotten some amazing results with just some mild applications of it.

Tom.D.BJJ

It's circular. NLP is the new NLP.

Doug Cartel

Hanley wrote: »

Ido Portal/MovNat/Flow style stuff.

Don't do machines - use a bar-bell was already a thing when I started strenght training over five years ago, but it's only been recently enough that I've noticed that the machines section of regular gyms are getting a bit dusty, while the free-weights areas are jam packed.

The handstand crowd are definitely knocking around, and I think they are picking up a bit of momentum, but again I think it will be years and years before it becomes really mainstream. It was weird enough to suddenly find the squat racks full of people actually doing squats, but it's going to be bloody bizarre if it gets to the stage where you can't move for people doing planches.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Doug Cartel wrote: »

It was weird enough to suddenly find the squat racks full of personal trainers actually doing squats, but it's going to be bloody bizarre if it gets to the stage where you can't move for personal trainers doing planches.

FYP

dragonkin

I think most people can squat with a bit of mobility work... handstands require properly functioning shoulders and good thoracic mobility which rules out most people.

Doug Cartel

Oakley Miniature Sobriety wrote: »

FYP

Sorry to be dense here, but...

Is the joke that everyone these days is walking around with a copy of Supple Leopard tucked under their arm, thinking they're a personal trainer - or are you saying that it's just the personal trainers who are squatting?

If it's the latter, then I have to say I don't think this is the case. I switched gyms recently because there wasn't enough space in the free weights area any more, and this was after they got two extra power cages.

Doug Cartel

dragonkin wrote: »

I think most people can squat with a bit of mobility work... handstands require properly functioning shoulders and good thoracic mobility which rules out most people.

So basically, with a bit of mobility work they could do hand stands.

amazingemmet

Doug Cartel wrote: »

So basically, with a bit of mobility work they could do hand stands.

Lol

btkm8unsl0w5r4

I am being a smartarse . Everyone seems to be a personal trainer, nutritionist, mental health coach, physiologist these days.

Doug Cartel

Oakley Miniature Sobriety wrote: »

Everyone seems to be a personal trainer, nutritionist, mental health coach, physiologist these days.

Yeah, I often have to remind myself I'm not one of these.

Alf Veedersane

Doug Cartel wrote: »

Sorry to be dense here, but...

Is the joke that everyone these days is walking around with a copy of Supple Leopard tucked under their arm, thinking they're a personal trainer

A copy of Supple Leopard? Access to Google, more like.

amazingemmet

My favourite is the personal trainer / life coach. Nothing finer then someone sleeping in the gym or couch surfing while trying to get people to pay them for life advice.

dragonkin

Nah in order to do handstands In my experience it requiresire than a bit of mobility work. It requires functional shoulders on top of functional core I'd say the vast majority of people don't have these esp a lot of gym goers who neglect their backs and tend to use their body badly. Not something that you pick up overnight either it's really more about relearning how to use your body properly, foam rolling will loosen up tight tissues and helps but functional movement is more difficult and really comes from a life time of movement not desk sitting or repetitive movement.

DellyBelly

I think Spinning will be the next big phase. I've recently done a few classes and it is a great excersie

Alf Veedersane

DellyBelly wrote: »

I think Spinning will be the next big phase. I've recently done a few classes and it is a great excersie

You might be onto something! Wait until it's 2010 and you tell people you told them so!

dragonkin

dragonkin wrote: »

Nah in order to do handstands In my experience it requiresire than a bit of mobility work. It requires functional shoulders on top of functional core I'd say the vast majority of people don't have these esp a lot of gym goers who neglect their backs and tend to use their body badly. Not something that you pick up overnight either it's really more about relearning how to use your body properly, foam rolling will loosen up tight tissues and helps but functional movement is more difficult and really comes from a life time of movement not desk sitting or repetitive movement.

So it requires Crossfit?

Doug Cartel

dragonkin wrote: »

Nah in order to do handstands In my experience it requiresire than a bit of mobility work. It requires functional shoulders on top of functional core I'd say the vast majority of people don't have these esp a lot of gym goers who neglect their backs and tend to use their body badly. Not something that you pick up overnight either it's really more about relearning how to use your body properly, foam rolling will loosen up tight tissues and helps but functional movement is more difficult and really comes from a life time of movement not desk sitting or repetitive movement.

I could say almost the same things about squatting.

I think the standard has gotten better these days, but my god, a few years ago and most of the people you would see trying to squat were destroying themselves. Actually, it's still the case that most people - even active ones - probably can't drop into an ATG squat and hang out there for more than 3 seconds without falling over.

People right now are pretty bad at doing handstands, but this is because they don't do handstands. If people start practising them they will get better at them. They'll probably need to do some assistance work and progress through easier exercises first, but they'll get there eventually.

dragonkin

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So it requires Crossfit?

Haha it's just a word crossfit doesn't own it. It gets the point across. If you can do 12 pull ups in a row I'd say your shoulders are 'functional'.

dragonkin

Doug Cartel wrote: »

I could say almost the same things about squatting.

I think the standard has gotten better these days, but my god, a few years ago and most of the people you would see trying to squat were destroying themselves.

People right now are pretty bad at doing handstands, but this is because they don't do handstands. If people start practising them they will get better at them. They'll probably need to do some assistance work and progress through easier exercises first, but they'll get there eventually.

I agree just thing the time and work involved is much greater and the mobility issues are not as easily addressed so not sure it will become mainstream. where there is a will there is a way tho.

amazingemmet

[QUOTE=Doug Cartel;87375456

People right now are pretty bad at doing handstands, but this is because they don't do handstands. If people start practising them they will get better at them. They'll probably need to do some assistance work and progress through easier exercises first, but they'll get there eventually.[/QUOTE]

The problem with handstands is it takes a long time regardless of how you train them and there's no break throughs along the way so it can be really off putting. In the progressions I use it takes me about 8 months on average to get someone from no handstand to 45-1min free standing with training handstand 4 times a week as seperate sessions.

Doug Cartel

amazingemmet wrote: »

The problem with handstands is it takes a long time regardless of how you train them and there's no break throughs along the way so it can be really off putting. In the progressions I use it takes me about 8 months on average to get someone from no handstand to 45-1min free standing with training handstand 4 times a week as seperate sessions.

I don't know about this. Handstands and handstand walks are a part of old-school judo training. My current coach doesn't have us do them, so I can't remember how quickly people progress, but from what I remember, lots of people can get to the stage where they can stand, pause, take three steps and then drop into a roll after a month or two of training.

Lots of people don't pick it up though, and few get much further than this. I know it's quite short of holding a static handstand for a minute, but it's enough that people think "hey I can do a handstand", and they have fun doing it.

amazingemmet

Doug Cartel wrote: »

I don't know about this. Handstands and handstand walks are a part of old-school judo training. My current coach doesn't have us do them, so I can't remember how quickly people progress, but from what I remember, lots of people can get to the stage where they can stand, pause, take three steps and then drop into a roll after a month or two of training.
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I can guarantee you their shape was terrible and if they tried to progress to advanced skills they wouldn't be able to. I can get some one who can do a forward roll to do handstand forward roll after about 20 mins of training the gulf from there to holding a straight hand stand with out moving hands is massive.

I'm not trying to be disparaging but handstands and other skills are just a bit of a different beast then say squatting, where if your taught to squat right essentially you'll be doing the same squat for the rest of your training career with minor tweaks here and there and with just the load increasing. Where as with a lot of these things you're going to spend months just working on prep skills that are boring.

Stench Blossoms

3min abs

johnybean

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

3min abs

Screw that noise.





2 min abs

amazingemmet

OSI wrote: »

"Abs in an Angelus"

Body of christ. Oh which reminds me Christian yoga is a thing where they renamed all the poses after christian stuff and got rid of the devil infused eastern influences.

Alf Veedersane

amazingemmet wrote: »

Body of christ. Oh which reminds me Christian yoga is a thing where they renamed all the poses after christian stuff and got rid of the devil infused eastern influences.

Makes sense. CrossFit is so called because of the sacrifice Jesus made for mankind.

amazingemmet

One quick googling and you're right

The Davestator

I was at the IHRSA conference and trade show in vegas this year and normally that's where all the new stuff is showcased. The biggest buzz this year was Defo around Zumba but im not sure Irish people are self confident enough to shake their hips?!

Other than that, no motor treadmills were big and loads of functional type units like synergy 360. A few places flogging electronic 'reaction' type units where you hit targets with lights to improve reaction. Bit gimmicky IMO.

Juicing is going to be big for a few months after that programme a few weeks back. (Not juicing juicing)

Alf Veedersane

Zumba has been on the go here long enough. Long enough that they're now offering vouchers for cut-price classes on the likes of Groupon anyway

Doug Cartel

amazingemmet wrote: »

I can guarantee you their shape was terrible and if they tried to progress to advanced skills they wouldn't be able to.

It's suppose it's true that hardly anyone makes it past walking for a few metres.

Stench Blossoms

OSI wrote: »

"Abs in an Angelus"

Have you ever seen it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia?

Dennis: I don't wanna get too bulky.
Dee: Right.
Dennis: I wanna stay nice and lean and tight. I wanna get that Jesus on the cross look. You know what I mean?
Dee: I see what you're saying. I think that crucifixion must have been really good for your core because...
Dennis: Oh, absolutely. Jesus had, like, the best abs. He had the right idea. Hey, he knew: no pain, no gain.
Dee: He had good messages.
Dennis: I'm sure he started that.

Alf Veedersane

Gotta love It's Always Sunny. But aside from that, Jesus carried a cross when a cross was a cross. Not some flat-pack nonsense from Ikea. Credit!

hypersonic

less training, seriously ~half the world is over trained.
24/7 stress, hr, hrv monitoring maybe even blood sugars etc. tech and fitness it a juicey revenue stream!

amazingemmet

hypersonic wrote: »

less training, seriously ~half the world is over trained.
24/7 stress, hr, hrv monitoring maybe even blood sugars etc. tech and fitness it a juicey revenue stream!

I've seen some blood lactic acid portable testing units getting marketed now, interesting stuff.

Transform

amazingemmet wrote: »

I've seen some blood lactic acid portable testing units getting marketed now, interesting stuff.

Trainers leading the fitness industry throug smart blogging and discussion as opposed to newspapers, magazines and sh1te tv shows like operation transformation acting as a guide in how to eat and train

cc87

amazingemmet wrote: »

I've seen some blood lactic acid portable testing units getting marketed now, interesting stuff.

They have being on the go for a good while now, just weren't marketed towards the fitness industry until recently.

I think with lots of gadgets, whose use was restricted to pro sports and research, becoming available to the public through smaller, cheaper portable versions combined with apps to do all the number crunching lots of money will be p!ssed away on them over the next few years.

amazingemmet

I've only seen the ones aimed at elite levels but assumed they'd be coming down soon.

@Transform while I do hope it swings that way. But the barriers for entry are too low and signal to noise ratio is too high at present.

brownej

There seems to be an increase in participation in jogging these days. Loads more people are doing 5ks and 10ks. Or so it seems to me anyway. Not the next big thing I suppose as its going on now.

I see more lads taking an interest in stuff like Pilates now. Which is a really good thing.

Mellor

brownej wrote: »

There seems to be an increase in participation in jogging these days. Loads more people are doing 5ks and 10ks. Or so it seems to me anyway. Not the next big thing I suppose as its going on now.

Transform

amazingemmet wrote: »

I've only seen the ones aimed at elite levels but assumed they'd be coming down soon.

@Transform while I do hope it swings that way. But the barriers for entry are too low and signal to noise ratio is too high at present.

no dude i GUARANTEE it will happen that way.

had a chat with a few guys that will get the ball rolling on this soon

brownej

Mellor wrote: »

Random magazine cover from the 70s and obligatory anchorman quote.

My point isn't that jogging is new its just that everyone is doing it at the moment. Compared with even 5 years ago the numbers out jogging in the evening or in the morning are much higher.

siochain

Its not a new thing but a trend - In Irealand anyway its going back to the old school stuff thats cheap, walking, jogging & cycling.

The year on year increase in 5k's, 10k's, tri-athlons, bi-athlons, bike and adventure races is quite impressive. Did see the figues somewhere recently will try and dig them up.

For the experienced fit heads the new stuff will be the Ido Portal style and gymnastics.

Olympic lifting is becoming fashionable.

In terms of general health mindfulness, CBT and gut health, Again these are nothing new but on an upward tread.

amazingemmet

Transform wrote: »

no dude i GUARANTEE it will happen that way.

had a chat with a few guys that will get the ball rolling on this soon

I need to buy you lunch at some point and pick your brains.

amazingemmet

siochain wrote: »

The year on year increase in 5k's, 10k's, tri-athlons, bi-athlons, bike and adventure races is quite impressive. Did see the figues somewhere recently will try and dig them up.

For the experienced fit heads the new stuff will be the Ido Portal style and gymnastics.

Olympic lifting is becoming fashionable.

In terms of general health mindfulness, CBT and [gut health, Again these are nothing new but on an upward tread.

Not sure on the 10k side of things but the growth in adventure races has been immense in the uk it went from 2 to 20 in one year and growing whether it'll burn itself out is something different.

CBT will be the new nlp I'm already seeing some places offering weekend courses in it, grim.

My prediction is gut health and intestinal parasites will be the next gluten intolerance. Some of the "leading lights" of the fitness scene are talking about them in their nutrition seminars now so it'll take a bit to filter down. I can almost guarantee you won't hear any of the positive sides to intestinal parasites though.

Gummy Panda

Transform wrote: »

Trainers leading the fitness industry throug smart blogging and discussion as opposed to newspapers, magazines and sh1te tv shows like operation transformation acting as a guide in how to eat and train

How would this work?

For every informative blogger/YouTube channel, there is 5 others parroting the same "got to have oats and egg whites brah as the first of your 6 meals"

Transform

Gummy Panda wrote: »

How would this work?

For every informative blogger/YouTube channel, there is 5 others parroting the same "got to have oats and egg whites brah as the first of your 6 meals"

It will work fine just wait and see.

Good info done right with the right people will always win out and in this day and age it just happens faster.

Will keep you all posted

amazingemmet

If you check the recent posts the start of my predictions has begun.