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Playstation 4 Or Xbox One? (See mod warning in the first post)

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    #1952
    COYVB
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    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    perhaps even sacrificing second place to the WiiU, which will depend on the strategies employed this year by Nintendo to generate markets are again.

    OTR chats with certain folk point at a massive push to be "everyone's second console"


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    #1953
    2Mad2BeMad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭2Mad2BeMad


    RasTa wrote: »
    Not 60 fps? order cancelled!



    The Order 1886

    your being sarcastic?


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    #1954
    Retr0gamer
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    COYVB wrote: »
    OTR chats with certain folk point at a massive push to be "everyone's second console"

    I hope Microsoft aren't thinking that because the wiiu is a far better candidate. I don't see the One having much to differentiate it from the ps4 and a lot of its 'exclusives' will be on PC lie with the 360
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    #1955
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,541 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    So, a Christmas '14 when a cheap WiiU and a PS4 with a decent, varied software library, could they be the magic combo?
    Could the Xbox One find itself out in the cold?
    Again, I think it all lies with what Nintendo and MS have to show at the E3.
    Certainly, I don't think many, outside of enthusiasts like ourselves, are going to buy a PS4 and an Xbox One.
    Too much of MS' rhetoric now sounds like Segas "Blast Processing" of old, the notion that there'll be a performance jump if the Kinect is deactivated, it's a stretch, certainly a capable SDK may be the answer.
    I remember the PS, back in the mid 90's.
    1st party stuff looked stunning, as did Sonys preferred partners, the likes of Psygnosis before it was brought into Sony proper, they had access to the best dev kits, while other developers produced a lot of dross, not to long after the overall quality of software took a leap as everyone got hold of the proper development tools, and then the 1st party games got another boost with the Performance Analyser, which I think was first used on Porsche Challenge, or was it Rapid Racer, anyway they managed to get things out of the PS that the machine had no right to do!
    Just compare early stuff like Wipeout, Destruction Derby or Loaded with later titles like Need for Speed Road Challenge, Einhander or Gran Turismo 2.
    I mention the above because, hopefully, the same will be true for the Xbox One.
    But then...
    It could go the way of the Saturn, a great machine but no one except the 1st party devs could develop on it, everyone else made substandard ports of PS/PC titles, at least where 3D games were concerned, right up to the end.
    That may be an outrageous over generalisation, I'll let Retr0 correct me there, but you know what I mean.


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    #1956
    jackthetrader
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 67 ✭✭jackthetrader


    What price is WiiU ?
    Did they have a price drop


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    #1957
    Retr0gamer
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    If the Xbox one had as many amazing ports of stone cold arcade classics as the Saturn had I'd buy one today. Somehow I doubt that is going to happen.
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    #1958
    Grayditch
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    I don't think I'd go for a WiiU over an Xbox One as a second console, right now. Not that I'd buy either right now, but I'd have more faith in the Xbox One coming out with more exclusives that would interest me in the next year than the Wii U. Looking at Metacritic as a crude guide to the best Wii U exclusives, and there are a few in there that I'd be interested me, but probably not enough to justify getting one. €270 ain't bad, though.

    I guess the PS3 is my other console for now. 360 might be for Titanfall if it's good.


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    #1959
    Alpha Dog 1
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    Lads for anyone with a ps4,what has it got over a ps3 apart from better graphics?


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    #1960
    Grayditch
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    Alpha Dog 1 wrote: »
    Lads for anyone with a ps4,what has it got over a ps3 apart from better graphics?

    A few games you can't get on PS3 with more to come, better joypad and an interface that is like a dream compared to PS3. Not as massive leap, this early. Not as massive a leap as it should have been.

    I only got one to play the exclusives on while the PS3 dies out. It'll be my preferred console and the price won't drop for a while, so I just went ahead and got it.


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    #1961
    Kerplunk124
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    Alpha Dog 1 wrote: »
    Lads for anyone with a ps4,what has it got over a ps3 apart from better graphics?
    800px-Resogun_logo.jpg


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    #1962
    Xenji
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    Grayditch wrote: »
    A few games you can't get on PS3 with more to come, better joypad and an interface that is like a dream compared to PS3. Not as massive leap, this early. Not as massive a leap as it should have been.

    I only got one to play the exclusives on while the PS3 dies out. It'll be my preferred console and the price won't drop for a while, so I just went ahead and got it.

    Download speeds have vastly improved as well, everything is lightning quick now compared to what it used to be.


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    #1963
    CiDeRmAn
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    The WiiU premium pack is €224.99 in Smyths.
    That's the pack including Nintendoland.
    And worth every penny!


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    #1964
    lee_baby_simms
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    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    The WiiU premium pack is €224.99 in Smyths.
    That's the pack including Nintendoland.
    And worth every penny!

    At the rate they're selling they'll be even cheaper in a year.


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    #1965
    CiDeRmAn
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    lee_baby_simms wrote: »
    At the rate they're selling they'll be even cheaper in a year.

    As will every other console on the market, so nothing new there.


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    #1966
    Grayditch
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    Cheaper than €230, though? Jaysus.


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    #1967
    2Mad2BeMad
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    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    As will every other console on the market, so nothing new there.

    I can't see the ps4 dropping in price in the next year
    same with xbox one unless they do a kinectless console or one thats rumored without a disk drive


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    #1968
    jackthetrader
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    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    The WiiU premium pack is €224.99 in Smyths.
    That's the pack including Nintendoland.
    And worth every penny!

    Id say for a second console they would want to be hitting €199 mark


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    #1969
    Grayditch
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    Interesting if correct, I guess.

    PS4 Launch Week Sales: 681,687
    Xbox One Launch Week Sales: 336,030
    Wii U Launch Week Sales: 183,952

    PS4 Lifetime Sales: 1,641,827
    Xbox One Lifetime Sales: 799,089
    Wii U Lifetime Sales: 1,146,354

    Is the Wii U in trouble, or is it just a slow burner?


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    #1970
    COYVB
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    Where are those sales for? They're definitely not global...

    As of last week:

    worldwide_totals.png?a=8


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    #1971
    Grayditch
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    http://www.vgchartz.com/article/251476/ps4-vs-xbox-one-vs-wii-u-global-launch-sales-comparison/

    Not vouching for them, though!


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    #1972
    COYVB
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    Either a very old article recently posted, or woefully poor research, because the vgchartz homepage has the lifetime to date sales of the current gen on it - and it's the image i posted above which is nothing like the stats in the article


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    #1973
    Grayditch
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    Yeah, I had heard Vgcharts was solid enough. I just searched "ps4, xbox one, wii u sales" on Google and that was the first VGCharts link that appeared.


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    #1974
    COYVB
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    My best guess is that it's weekly sales for the launch period. Only thing that really makes sense with the numbers at the bottom, the starting point of each system, and the way things progress (also the PS4 has one extra plot point than the XBO, and it was out a week earlier)


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    #1975
    Grayditch
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    One of the quotes "Global launch without the 2nd biggest market of the world (Japan) is not global launch. Adding it to WiiU makes no fair comparison."

    Dunno if that works out, though.


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    #1976
    irishmover
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    COYVB wrote: »
    Where are those sales for? They're definitely not global...

    As of last week:

    worldwide_totals.png?a=8

    ??? What the **** are those percentages supposed to mean?


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    #1977
    Varik
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    irishmover wrote: »
    ??? What the **** are those percentages supposed to mean?

    Shows the percentage of their respective market(home console, or handheld).


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    #1978
    Grayditch
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    This site is great. It also reminded me there's a new Sengoku Basara game out.


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    #1979
    irishmover
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    Varik wrote: »
    Shows the percentage of their respective market(home console, or handheld).

    Durrrrrr!


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    #1980
    Varik
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    Grayditch wrote: »
    This site is great. It also reminded me there's a new Sengoku Basara game out.

    Only problem is that while the numbers are probably the most accurate you'll find they aren't always great due to digital or non-us sales


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    #1981
    COYVB
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    Grayditch wrote: »
    One of the quotes "Global launch without the 2nd biggest market of the world (Japan) is not global launch. Adding it to WiiU makes no fair comparison."

    Dunno if that works out, though.

    Japan is the third largest behind Europe and North America AFAIK


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