Mux 2 Launched / Saorview Rescan Required

mgc102

Thurston? wrote: »

You mean anywhere you can receive the signal from 28 degrees east, & as long as you pay a subscription to Sky?

I don't have a skybox, but is it not the same skybox used throughout the EU just the signal different and the subscription or TV licences that is different depending on where the signal lands. Why can't terrestrial equipment (TV/PVR) have the same standards and technology through Europe like the skyboxes for satellite signal?

Thurston?

mgc102 wrote: »

I don't have a skybox, but is it not the same skybox used throughout the EU just the signal different and the subscription or TV licences that is different depending on where the signal lands.

Could be the same hardware, for all I know, but your UK/Ireland Sky+ box won't have much user-appeal once you leave the footprint of the satellites at 28 degrees east.

Sky aren't an EU-wide operation anyway. Maybe you're actually thinking of satellite receivers in general?

The Cush

mgc102 wrote: »

I don't have a skybox, but is it not the same skybox used throughout the EU just the signal different and the subscription or TV licences that is different depending on where the signal lands.

No, each pay TV operator uses its own proprietary hardware.

marclt

We're waaaay off topic here. Keep it back to the title please, start a new thread if you need to!

mgc102

The Cush wrote: »

No, each pay TV operator uses its own proprietary hardware.

This is in the terrestrial section (not pay TV) and I only used the $ky box as an example of an Europe wide (recording) box. I feel that we are not getting the choices of TV and other related equipment available in other parts of the EU. We should be asking why this is so!
I don't want to upset people who have paid subscriptions to $ky or $ky themselves but if the 2RN changes scrap competition between $aorview plus boxes, $ky plus boxes and other recorders used (some used prior to the digital switchover) I think it $π|nks!

Thurston?

mgc102 wrote: »

... I only used the $ky box as an example of an Europe wide (recording) box.

It's possibly the worst example you could have come up with. It doesn't even record if you don't pay a sub.

mgc102

marclt wrote: »

We're waaaay off topic here. Keep it back to the title please, start a new thread if you need to!

But from reading the posts the rescan/changes are causing problems to equipment, whether the equipment is saorview approved or not( but dont blame the buyer as some may have been purchased before saorview approval was recommended!)

Thurston?

mgc102 wrote: »

But from reading the posts the rescan/changes is causing problems to equipment, whether or not the equipment is saorview approved or not

What problems are being caused to Saorview approved equipment?

Sam Russell

The problems are to non-approved equipment that used to work fine, but now does not. The problems I am aware of are
1: Series link stopped working in July.
2: Summertime stopped working two years ago.
3:LCN number problems because they put data channels ahead of programme channels since the last retune.

All of these could be fixed by minor changes to the data stream.

Edit: I know that they have put the data stream first because when I press [1] the TV shows a hidden channel (greyed out) called SSU, which is a data software update channel. This is transmitted on both mux1 and mux2.

h7nlrp2v0g5u48

Test channel 12 is now showing a colour bars test card in HD it' not the test card with the clapper sound. Also test channel 21 is now showing a colour bars test card. It might not mean much but I wonder is test channel 12 for UTVI HD and test channel 21 for OTV or TV3+1. I might be clutching at straws.

The Cush

natashaob6 wrote: »

test channel 21 for OTV or TV3+1.

or RTÉ News Now as it was testing there before?

h7nlrp2v0g5u48

The Cush wrote: »

or RTÉ News Now as it was testing there before?

Possibly I had forgotten about RTE News now. I don't know when the test cards changed as I was away for most of the weekend. When I checked late Friday nighr all test channels were showing a philips tesr card except test channel 12 which had the colour bars with clapper sound. So the changes must have taken place yesterday.

The Cush

The UTVI carriage announcement may come this week based on a Sunday Mail article last Sun so they could be preparing for that.

Hotblack Desiato

natashaob6 wrote: »

Test channel 12 is now showing a colour bars test card in HD it' not the test card with the clapper sound.

It is the 'clapper' testcard - but just frozen - or at least it was when I checked yesterday.

h7nlrp2v0g5u48

The Cush wrote: »

The UTVI carriage announcement may come this week based on a Sunday Mail article last Sun so they could be preparing for that.

yes I hope so. It would be nice if UTVI launched in HD. Exciting times ahead.

StreetLight

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

It is the 'clapper' testcard - but just frozen - or at least it was when I checked yesterday.

Channel 12 had the clapper test with the 2RN Ardghleine caption. This is now full bars.

Channel 21 is now split bars with red raster.

RED L4 0TH

The Cush wrote: »

RTÉ News Now

New style (fonts, colours etc) for it I notice this evening.

The Cush

RED L4 0TH wrote: »

New style (fonts, colours etc) for it I notice this evening.

Hopefully we'll get full SD resolution to go with that.

marclt

I've noticed the testcards have been changing over the weekend. The HD test appeared 'frozen' for a period. Maybe an issue there.

h7nlrp2v0g5u48

Test channel 12 is now carrying tone with colour bars. Audio was silent. Just gone silent again.

galtee boy

natashaob6 wrote: »

Test channel 12 is now carrying tone with colour bars. Audio was silent. Just gone silent again.

HD test channel on satellite now lit up with UTVI logo and coming January 1st message on screen. Here's hoping we see the same on this channel in the next day or two.

The Cush

Could the colour bars be coming from UTVI at Macken House, testing the link to Cookstown/Donnybrook?

formerly scottish paddy

The Cush wrote: »

Could the colour bars be coming from UTVI at Macken House, testing the link to Cookstown/Donnybrook?

Very likely, they will need to calibrate the links circuit from Macken House before any promo loop test is broadcast.
I wonder when they will expect viewers to retune, most people will not want to muck about with their tellys over Christmas.

galtee boy

The Cush wrote: »

Could the colour bars be coming from UTVI at Macken House, testing the link to Cookstown/Donnybrook?

Are we confident that UTVI will be in HD on Saorview ?

The Cush

galtee boy wrote: »

Are we confident that UTVI will be in HD on Saorview ?

No, just an educated guess based on the messing about with the epg recently.

galtee boy

The Cush wrote: »

No, just an educated guess based on the messing about with the epg recently.

I guess we'll find out in the next day or so. I would think that the promo loop running on the Sky test channels, will appear on Saorview this week.

Machinehead

If test channels 12 & 14 are reserved for TV3 HD & TG4 HD respectively (as was speculated on these forums) where then for UTV Ireland HD?

irishfeen

Machinehead wrote: »

If test channels 12 & 14 are reserved for TV3 HD & TG4 HD respectively (as was speculated on these forums) where then for UTV Ireland HD?

I don't think any slot are "reserved" for any channel - you pay, you get carriage, first come first serve ... i'd say its as simple as that.

The Cush

irishfeen wrote: »

I don't think any slot are "reserved" for any channel - you pay, you get carriage, first come first serve ... i'd say its as simple as that.

That's about it, the only slot reserved is the LCN you pay for, everything else is a moveable feast.

SRB

UTVI's playout/transmission control is in Belfast, in Havelock House.