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Arg -v- Aus, match preview & thread, Sat 5 Oct, 2340 Irish time

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    #32
    Swiwi.
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    Argentina :eek:

    It's tackle rugby, not tag rugby.


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    #33
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    Cooper in his element, that pass was outstanding


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    #34
    CatFromHue
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    American History X is on, I'm not sure if I can watch another rugby game in it's place!


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    #35
    matthew8
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    That exact mistake has happened quite a few times to Cooper, he should've conceded a try with the Reds against the Lions for the same thing. You would think he would learn.


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    #36
    ScissorPaperRock
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    That was a cracker of a pass from Cooper


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    #37
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    Scrum screwing Australia over yet again


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    #38
    ScissorPaperRock
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    Argentina showed against the All Blacks last week that they have a formidable scrum. It seems the new laws favour their style.

    Eddie O'Sullivan had an interesting article about it.

    Edit: here's the article http://www.eddieosullivan.com/bajada-back/


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    #39
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    I mean surely there's some prop in Australia better than Slipper and Alexander? How long are they going to be persisted with


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    #40
    Swiwi.
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    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »
    Scrum screwing Australia over yet again

    It's embarrassing. Not that I can talk after NZ's scrum performance this championship :o


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    #41
    Kiwi_knock
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    80 mins of scrums is the perfect thing to send you to sleep.


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    #42
    matthew8
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    Should have been a penalty try.


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    #43
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    matthew8 wrote: »
    Should have been a penalty try.

    No it shouldn't. Penalty try can only be awarded if the infringement is stopping a try being scored.


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    #44
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    Australia look a lot better in attack


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    #45
    matthew8
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    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »
    No it shouldn't. Penalty try can only be awarded if the infringement is stopping a try being scored.

    Were it not for the Australian scrum infringements they could have pushed over.


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    #46
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    matthew8 wrote: »
    Were it not for the Australian scrum infringements they could have pushed over.

    ya but they would have to have been in the process of pushing over the line for a penalty try to be awarded. They weren't hence why one wasn't given


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    #47
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    Cooper plays flatter than any ten in world rugby, which has to be admired. But he's a complete liability


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    #48
    matthew8
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    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »
    ya but they would have to have been in the process of pushing over the line for a penalty try to be awarded. They weren't hence why one wasn't given

    IIRC a couple of the penalties were while the scrum was moving back, if only by half a metre. I've seen plenty of referees give a penalty try in that situation.


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    #49
    Kiwi_knock
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    Some great pace in this match


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    #50
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    matthew8 wrote: »
    IIRC a couple of the penalties were while the scrum was moving back, if only by half a metre. I've seen plenty of referees give a penalty try in that situation.

    Well those referees would have been wrong,

    rule states that if the ref is certain a try is going to be scored if the infringement doesn't take place then it's a penalty try. But in none of those scrum penalty's could Barnes have been certain that there would have been a try scored


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    #51
    Swiwi.
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    Kiwi_knock wrote: »
    Some great pace in this match

    It's a bit Super 15-esque :p


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    #52
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »
    Well those referees would have been wrong,

    rule states that if the ref is certain a try is going to be scored if the infringement doesn't take place then it's a penalty try. But in none of those scrum penalty's could Barnes have been certain that there would have been a try scored

    Barnes showing with this incident that he has to be certain it was stopping a try to award it


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    #53
    Kiwi_knock
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    Stupid bit of play there, no need to go in for the tackle like that


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    #54
    matthew8
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    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »
    Well those referees would have been wrong,

    rule states that if the ref is certain a try is going to be scored if the infringement doesn't take place then it's a penalty try. But in none of those scrum penalty's could Barnes have been certain that there would have been a try scored

    Not certain. Probable.


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    #55
    P_1
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    I thought the college football was on the other channel :P

    Troy Polamalu would have been proud of that hit!


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    #56
    Kiwi_knock
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    Lovely try


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    #57
    Swiwi.
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    If Aust get this USME, I fear for your wager. Argentina looking outclassed in the backs.


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    #58
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    matthew8 wrote: »
    Not certain. Probable.

    ya but you can't say a try probably would have been scored in any of those scrums. They moved the Australians back a foot or two max. Not once did they get the ball anywhere near the try line


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    #59
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    Swiwi. wrote: »
    If Aust get this USME, I fear for your wager. Argentina looking outclassed in the backs.

    I have Australia -1 in a double with Ulster +5 from the other night and I also put a bit on Australia -13 so I'm laughing!


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    #60
    Kiwi_knock
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    Oh Folau


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    #61
    Swiwi.
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    Australia are playing the way they should have approached the Lions series. They have a poor tight 5, but their backs, when on form, can be very good.


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