Arg -v- Aus, match preview & thread, Sat 5 Oct, 2340 Irish time

Swiwi. · 03-10-2013 8:31pm #1

Adiós Felipe and gracias for the memories

ARGENTINA: 15 Juan Martin Hernandez, 14 Horacio Agulla, 13 Marcelo Bosch, 12 Felipe Contepomi, 11 Juan Imhoff, 10 Nicolas Sanchez, 9 Martin Landajo, 8 Juan Manuel Leguizamon, 7 Pablo Matera, 6 Juan Martin Fernandez Lobbe (captain), 5 Patricio Albacete, 4 Julio Farias Cabello, 3 Juan Pablo Orlandi, 2 Eusebio Guinazu, 1 Marcos Ayerza.
Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 17 Nahuel Lobo, 18 Matias Diaz, 19 Manuel Carizza, 20 Benjamn Macome, 21 Tomas Cubelli, 22 Santiago Fernandez, 23 Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino.

AUSTRALIA: 15 Israel Folau, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Tevita Kuridrani, 12 Christian Lealiifano, 11 Joe Tomane, 10 Quade Cooper, 9 Will Genia, 8 Ben Mowen, 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Scott Fardy, 5 James Horwill (c), 4 Rob Simmons, 3 Ben Alexander, 2 Stephen Moore, 1 James Slipper.
Replacements: 16 Saia Faingaa, 17 Benn Robinson, 18 Sekope Kepu, 19 Sitaleki Timani, 20 Ben McCalman, 21 Nic White, 22 Matt Toomua, 23 Bernard Foley.

On Saturday evening one of rugby's great characters plays out his final act on the rugby field when Felipe Contempomi retires from international rugby. The 86 test veteran, who made his debut all the way back in 1998, is finally calling it quits at the age of 36. With a degree from the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland, and a more than handy stint in the blue of Leinster, the Los Puma's player holds a special place in the hearts of rugby followers on these shores. Let's hope he can go out on a high with an inaugural Argentinian victory in the rugby championship.

No preview this time, just the last word to the legend in the form of this interview with Radio Sport in NZ. Felipe Contempomi we salute you!

LINK: Argentinian legend Felipe Contempomi discusses his final test match

The Aussie · 03-10-2013 8:37pm

Gladly it's past my bed time :pac:.......

thomond2006 · 03-10-2013 8:44pm

C'monnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Lobbe!

Swiwi. · 03-10-2013 9:05pm

The Aussie wrote: »

Gladly it's past my bed time :pac:.......

Good to see you're back. Recovered from the Lions series I trust. Will you be heading along to the Aviva in November to support the men in Green & Gold?

matthew8 · 03-10-2013 11:24pm

As far as I'm concerned the pumas better hope it rains (which it has for their last 3 games) and/or that their scrum can be as good without Figallo. Genia's back, and he really changed the game against SA. I fancy Australia to put in their best performance of the comp.

Swiwi. · 04-10-2013 6:29am

matthew8 wrote: »

As far as I'm concerned the pumas better hope it rains (which it has for their last 3 games) and/or that their scrum can be as good without Figallo. Genia's back, and he really changed the game against SA. I fancy Australia to put in their best performance of the comp.

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. The Aussie forward pack is powder puff. I guess if they can obtain 40% of possession or so, the Aussie backs could pull it off. But the Argentinian defence has been pretty good this comp. It'll be close, no doubt, but I actually think Los Pumas might do it - I guess the other worry for them is their lack of fitness which told out in the end last week - but the ABs are more likely to tire a team out than Australia. Figallo is a big loss though.

Paul Cully agrees with you, it's a witty article, and worth a read.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/expect-crumbs-from-scrum-as-pumas-take-lions-share-20131003-2uxad.html

The Aussie · 04-10-2013 8:33am

Swiwi. wrote: »

Good to see you're back. Recovered from the Lions series I trust.

No, I still cry myself to sleep every night, I wake up in cold sweats thinking I'm Kurtley Beale get stared down at by the Irish Chuck Norris that is Paul O'Connell

Swiwi. wrote: »

Will you be heading along to the Aviva in November to support the men in Green & Gold?

Yes, will put on an Irish accent until the end and see what the scoreline is.

Swiwi. · 04-10-2013 8:39am

The Aussie wrote: »

Yes, will put on an Irish accent until the end and see what the scoreline is.

Don't wear the parrot gold jumper so. It's not exactly subtle, in fact you almost need sunglasses. Personally, I'm happy I support the All Blacks and not the All Marigolds...

The Aussie · 04-10-2013 8:42am

I might wear a black AC/DC shirt and pass as a Kiwi, I just won't shower for a week before the trip up to Dublin

Instant Kiwi....

Swiwi. · 04-10-2013 8:47am

The Aussie wrote: »

I might wear a black AC/DC shirt and pass as a Kiwi, I just won't shower for a week before the trip up to Dublin

Instant Kiwi....

Have you got a mullet? And drive to the ground in a Holden Commodore.

The Aussie · 04-10-2013 8:53am

Swiwi. wrote: »

Have you got a mullet? And drive to the ground in a Holden Commodore.

Nah, I'm not that much into role playing, I will only go so far to play the part of a Bro.

So Genia back starting, at least they are not trying to dumb down the attack even further, I thought dumbing down stupid was a master stroke though.

.ak · 04-10-2013 9:15am

I have no idea what either of you are saying. I need a translator.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 04-10-2013 8:53pm

A Wallaby win will see UMSE on the beer tomorrow night to celebrate Munster beating Leinster

thomond2006 · 05-10-2013 9:40pm

Won't be staying up for this one.

This being Contepomi's last match is a huge motivating factor for Los Pumas.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 9:42pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

A Wallaby win will see UMSE on the beer tomorrow night to celebrate Munster beating Leinster

I thought this was on at 11:30. Got up early, had breakfast went to the gym and got back for 11:30 with the intention of watching it and discovered it's not on until now

I've a few bets riding on this so I'll stay up

(took Aus -13 at 5/1 too)

Swiwi. · 05-10-2013 9:44pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

I thought this was on at 11:30. Got up early, had breakfast went to the gym and got back for 11:30 with the intention of watching it and discovered it's not on until now

I've a few bets riding on this so I'll stay up

(took Aus -13 at 5/1 too)

See you at 2340 so. Just watched the first 40 of AB v SA - best first half of test match rugby I've watched since maybe Lions v SA 2nd test 2009.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 9:46pm

Swiwi. wrote: »

See you at 2340 so. Just watched the first 40 of AB v SA - best first half of test match rugby I've watched since maybe Lions v SA 2nd test 2009.

told ya!

Swiwi. · 05-10-2013 9:59pm

How fast was the AB v SA game? I feel like I watched Munster v Leinster in slow-mo after this. Ireland will really really have to pick up the pace if they are to compete with NZ.

thomond2006 · 05-10-2013 10:01pm

Lobbe playing tonight, future Munster player. Why? Because JP McManus will take out the chequebook.

That's right. Lobbe to Munster. It's going to happen. Lobbe to Munster.

Tox56 · 05-10-2013 10:22pm

Swiwi. wrote: »

How fast was the AB v SA game? I feel like I watched Munster v Leinster in slow-mo after this. Ireland will really really have to pick up the pace if they are to compete with NZ.

Caution: Games in TP can look slower than they are for some reason, might be camera angle to the pitch but that's what I've always found

But to be honest the AB-SA game was not the same sport Leinster-Munster were playing. We (and most of the NH) are a long, long way off NZ

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 10:24pm

Lads comparing one of the best test matches played this decade to Munster Leinster is a bit unfair. The intensity of the M/L game was huge

Tox56 · 05-10-2013 10:28pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Lads comparing one of the best test matches played this decade to Munster Leinster is a bit unfair. The intensity of the M/L game was huge

Schools Senior Cup matches are high intensity, the quality was not what it should be. It's early in the season compared to the SH teams, but the players need to click perfectly if we are to stand a chance against NZ

Swiwi. · 05-10-2013 10:29pm

Tox56 wrote: »

Caution: Games in TP can look slower than they are for some reason, might be camera angle to the pitch but that's what I've always found

But to be honest the AB-SA game was not the same sport Leinster-Munster were playing. We (and most of the NH) are a long, long way off NZ

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Lads comparing one of the best test matches played this decade to Munster Leinster is a bit unfair. The intensity of the M/L game was huge

I know. Test match v provincial match can't be compared. Just saying Ireland will have to play at a faster tempo than tonight's local derby.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 10:31pm

Swiwi. wrote: »

I know. Test match v provincial match can't be compared. Just saying Ireland will have to play at a faster tempo than tonight's local derby.

true. But if NZ turn up like that I don't think we'll be able to live with them, even with a Schmidt gameplan

CatFromHue · 05-10-2013 10:33pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Lads comparing one of the best test matches played this decade to Munster Leinster is a bit unfair. The intensity of the M/L game was huge

What's this M/L game you're talking about?

Nothing to do with the Rabo I hope

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 10:33pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

What's this M/L game you're talking about?

Nothing to do with the Rabo I hope

Munster Leinster! very tired!

CatFromHue · 05-10-2013 10:35pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Munster Leinster! very tired!

Haha my mistake so.

Even in Sextons book he was talking about the Magners League win Leinster had......

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 10:43pm

fantastic try for the Wallabies

Swiwi. · 05-10-2013 10:43pm

Australia :eek:

Kiwi_knock · 05-10-2013 10:44pm

Wallabies remember how to play rugby

matthew8 · 05-10-2013 10:45pm

Maybe this team can finally get it together. Looks a dry enough night, pumas could find it rough.

Swiwi. · 05-10-2013 10:46pm

Argentina :eek:

It's tackle rugby, not tag rugby.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 10:47pm

Cooper in his element, that pass was outstanding

CatFromHue · 05-10-2013 10:47pm

American History X is on, I'm not sure if I can watch another rugby game in it's place!

matthew8 · 05-10-2013 10:49pm

That exact mistake has happened quite a few times to Cooper, he should've conceded a try with the Reds against the Lions for the same thing. You would think he would learn.

ScissorPaperRock · 05-10-2013 10:50pm

That was a cracker of a pass from Cooper

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 10:52pm

Scrum screwing Australia over yet again

ScissorPaperRock · 05-10-2013 10:55pm

Argentina showed against the All Blacks last week that they have a formidable scrum. It seems the new laws favour their style.

Eddie O'Sullivan had an interesting article about it.

Edit: here's the article http://www.eddieosullivan.com/bajada-back/

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 10:56pm

I mean surely there's some prop in Australia better than Slipper and Alexander? How long are they going to be persisted with

Swiwi. · 05-10-2013 10:56pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

Scrum screwing Australia over yet again

It's embarrassing. Not that I can talk after NZ's scrum performance this championship

Kiwi_knock · 05-10-2013 10:56pm

80 mins of scrums is the perfect thing to send you to sleep.

matthew8 · 05-10-2013 10:58pm

Should have been a penalty try.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 11:01pm

matthew8 wrote: »

Should have been a penalty try.

No it shouldn't. Penalty try can only be awarded if the infringement is stopping a try being scored.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 11:05pm

Australia look a lot better in attack

matthew8 · 05-10-2013 11:06pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

No it shouldn't. Penalty try can only be awarded if the infringement is stopping a try being scored.

Were it not for the Australian scrum infringements they could have pushed over.

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 11:07pm

matthew8 wrote: »

Were it not for the Australian scrum infringements they could have pushed over.

ya but they would have to have been in the process of pushing over the line for a penalty try to be awarded. They weren't hence why one wasn't given

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 11:11pm

Cooper plays flatter than any ten in world rugby, which has to be admired. But he's a complete liability

matthew8 · 05-10-2013 11:11pm

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »

ya but they would have to have been in the process of pushing over the line for a penalty try to be awarded. They weren't hence why one wasn't given

IIRC a couple of the penalties were while the scrum was moving back, if only by half a metre. I've seen plenty of referees give a penalty try in that situation.

Kiwi_knock · 05-10-2013 11:13pm

Some great pace in this match

Ugo Monye spacecraft experience · 05-10-2013 11:13pm

matthew8 wrote: »

IIRC a couple of the penalties were while the scrum was moving back, if only by half a metre. I've seen plenty of referees give a penalty try in that situation.

Well those referees would have been wrong,

rule states that if the ref is certain a try is going to be scored if the infringement doesn't take place then it's a penalty try. But in none of those scrum penalty's could Barnes have been certain that there would have been a try scored

Swiwi. · 05-10-2013 11:14pm

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Some great pace in this match

It's a bit Super 15-esque

Arg -v- Aus, match preview & thread, Sat 5 Oct, 2340 Irish time

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