Battlefield 4 Chat

miju

Noxin wrote: »

If I see an enemy doing it, it turns into a quad C4 ramming mission. I don't play much HC so don't get to TK if it was an ally. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't :P

All I'm saying is I love jihad vehicles coming at me :P:P:P:P:P

For anyone looking to teamkill a vehicle on normal mode this is what I do.

1. Get 1 C4 on the back , left and right side of vehicle.
2. Get a buggy type jeep
3. Build up decent bit of speed and ram into the back or corner of vehicle
4. laugh hilariously as you look at the burning wreck in your kill cam

jonski

If I jump into the AA I'll try to atleast guard the first flag while trying to keep the skies clear .

Sparks

MajesticDonkey wrote: »

If the dates are correct, it's nice to see them slowing down with the development a small bit with the last DLC.

...unless it's because the game's DLC is switching away from DICE (who're doing that star wark stuff) and the new studio will need spin-up time to learn the platform...

miju

jonski wrote: »

If I jump into the AA I'll try to atleast guard the first flag while trying to keep the skies clear .

Best position for AA is on the fringes which gives you enough time to duck for cover but also close enough to light up anything that moves with 30mm infantry, light vehicles and especially tanks

MajesticDonkey

Sparks wrote: »

...unless it's because the game's DLC is switching away from DICE (who're doing that star wark stuff) and the new studio will need spin-up time to learn the platform...

That is a good point, but Naval Strike is the last DLC that DICE Stockholm are developing, so if that was the case, you'd imagine there'd be a big gap between NS and the next DLC - not the one after it.

Noxin

miju wrote: »

All I'm saying is I love jihad vehicles coming at me :P:P:P:P:P

haha, you must learn when it happens so. I've honestly spent entire rounds killing AA in this fashion. They think they are being smart by moving to a different area but still at the back of a map. Problem is you light up like a Christmas tree.

One hilarious thing I saw before was when an ally was camping in AA. Two others didn't like it so got a jeep each and just kept ramming him all over the place. Was the funniest thing I've seen in BF4 so far. :pac:

4Dlolz

Naval Strike available tomorrow at 9am GMT.

miju

Noxin wrote: »

haha, you must learn when it happens so. I've honestly spent entire rounds killing AA in this fashion.

Its easy, most people will stay in first person view, I drive / scan for enemies constantly in 3rd person and only switch to first person to engage and then back out to 3rd person when im done.

Using that method you can usually see anything a mile away coming at you

Sparks

4Dlolz wrote: »

Naval Strike available tomorrow at 9am GMT.

Typical. My day off is today. Does noone in EA have a normal family life? Releasing DLCs on school nights, scheduling double XP weekends over Valentines Day weekends, you'd swear they were all unemployed 17-year-olds living in their parents' basements the way that they schedule things.

miju

Sparks wrote: »

Typical. My day off is today. Does noone in EA have a normal family life? Releasing DLCs on school nights, scheduling double XP weekends over Valentines Day weekends, you'd swear they were all unemployed 17-year-olds living in their parents' basements the way that they schedule things.

BF4 is all just one big DICE troll :P:P:P:P:P

Sparks

I doubt DICE get to decide release schedules that way, I blame EA for it...

DeWinterZero

Tuesday for DLC & patches makes sense. They did the same in for BF3.

Monday to double check in case of problems, Tuesday for release because they've the rest of the week to fix any huge game breaking fault.

Of course the total lack of quality testing in BF4 makes a joke of the schedule.

Sparks

They don't release on tuesday so they can patch the DLC in the event of breaks. A, that'd be daft because any break will take more than three days to be reported accurately and the bug to be found and fixed; and B, it's a holdover from high street retail in the days when software came in boxes. (Thing about B though, is "welcome to Steam/Origin/2014 lads, some ****'s changed").

4Dlolz

DICE devs spoke out about the addition of the riot shield coming to BF4. As most of us know the 360/PS3 held back developers a lot when creating new products. I know it's financially beneficial for big publishers to release titles on the old gen consoles but EA really need to take a page out of Ubisofts book with regard to the future. Ubisoft said Assassins Creed: Unity won't be released on the old gen consoles. Imagine the possibilities if EA gave DICE the freedom to use the technology available today and ditched production for 360/PS4 because it's crystal clear that this old hardware are holding development back.

4Dlolz

Spear wrote: »

Those map names seem oddly like 2142 references.

Agreed. Also - even though the leaked info has come from what Youtubers say is a "credible" source, the release of Dragons Teeth in May has to be a mistake. The 3rd of May is a Sunday...so I'm guessing he's a month early. 3rd of June is a Tuesday (more credible) and the 17th is also a Tuesday. Write in Dragons Teeth for June.

With the references to 2142 in Final Stand, I'm just going to assume that we'll be getting a lot of easter eggs.

DeWinterZero

Sparks wrote: »

They don't release on tuesday so they can patch the DLC in the event of breaks. A, that'd be daft because any break will take more than three days to be reported accurately and the bug to be found and fixed; and B, it's a holdover from high street retail in the days when software came in boxes. (Thing about B though, is "welcome to Steam/Origin/2014 lads, some ****'s changed").

DLC released on a 5pm on friday, breaks game, no one in the office until Monday. Bug still needs to be tracked down and fixed so they start 3 days after bug is introduced and the fix is released on a friday and rince and repeat.

4Dlolz

Sparks

DeWinterZero wrote: »

DLC released on a 5pm on friday, breaks game, no one in the office until Monday. Bug still needs to be tracked down and fixed so they start 3 days after bug is introduced and the fix is released on a friday and rince and repeat.

So (a) if it broke the entire game for everyone, even DICE QA would catch it; (b) if it breaks the game for 10% of people, EA don't care (just look at the recent soundloop bug); and (c) the tuesday thing really is down to high street retail and has feck all to do with development timetables.


Also, DLC released on friday at 1700, game breaks for 10% of people, it won't be till monday before you have a confirmed, accurate, useful bug report anyway. Thousands of pissed-off gamers who've had a ruined weekend and are venting on twitter and facebook, yes, but information in a format developers can use to replicate and thus fix the bug? Not a hope. Who's playing this thing on the reference hardware platform that DICE uses? Who even knows what that hardware is? So someone says it's broken, is it their hardware, is it the drivers for their hardware, is it their network provider or any individual link in that entire chain, is it as-designed behaviour that they didn't know about, is it an actual bug and if so, what platform, what map, what mode, what server setup, how many other players were online at the time, what were they all doing, what equipment was everyone using in-game, and so on. I mean, when the sound cutting out on golmund railway is caused not by you, but by someone else in a 64-player server using a silencer on their rifle, the bug report of "it's broken" isn't going to cut it, and that wasn't even the most complex kind of problem this could have been...

Honestly, until you've done software development, you really haven't come to appreciate a good bug report and don't know how much goes into one.

miju

Sparks wrote: »

So (a) if it broke the entire game for everyone, even DICE QA would catch it

ermm single player campaign still not saving peoples progress???????

jumbobreakfast

From a risk management perspective a Tuesday release still makes the most sense unless you want all your best people and content delivery providers working 24/7 in which case a monday release would be better. Unless you want to invent a new day that exists outside of time...

danniemcq

at work at minute so can't check, can we pre install/load naval strike before tomorrow?

Spear

No. Some of the content is already preloaded in the previous patch. The maps themselves won't come until tomorrow.

Sparks

jumbobreakfast wrote: »

From a risk management perspective a Tuesday release still makes the most sense

It really, really doesn't in this case, because pushing client-side patches is so hard compared to "regular" software. The difficulty means it makes more sense to take more time, roll several fixes together to the next patch and not do quick fixes.

jumbobreakfast

yeah you're totally right

Revoker88

Anybody know when we can expect to see naval strike on the ps4?

Off work at 5 in the morning and wouldnt mind having a game

the_syco

10am GMT, IIRC.

ktulu123

No Naval Strike for PC Users tomorrow lads:

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/news/view/take-the-fight-to-the-sea-with-battlefield-4-naval-strike/

Revoker88

Getting depressing looking at how badly they have messed up this game so far:(

Akrasia

ktulu123 wrote: »

No Naval Strike for PC Users tomorrow lads:

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/news/view/take-the-fight-to-the-sea-with-battlefield-4-naval-strike/

That thread on Battlelog is hilarious

It's a pity that the DLC is delayed for PC users, but the same people who are bitching about it being delayed are bitching about the game being released before it was properly bug fixed

The thing with Battlefield DLC is that they tend to introduce new game modes with new functionality as well as new maps and weapons. This is good for the gamer, but it has risks and the deadlines for DLC development are probably much tighter with fewer resources

The PC as a platform is inherently difficult to test. There are so many combinations of hardware and software configurations that it usually requires a lot of beta testing to weed out hardware and software conflicts. With DLC the resources are not there for this, so in house testers have an almost impossible job.

Battlefield is such a good franchise because they are so ambitious with what they try to do. This means gamers need to be a little bit more forgiving and patient with the development team. BF3 was broken for the first 6 months after release too but when the bugs were finally ironed out, it became the defining FPS for that hardware generation

The Red

Actually Im not bothered, I probably wouldnt get to play till after tomorrow anyway. Just thought id let you all know that useless bit of info.



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