Battlefield 4 Chat

Logical Fallacy

Since the last patch this is pretty much every death for me. Was playing some rounds with the lads earlier and saw InTheWorks behind the truck, went to get him, saw him peak so duck. Took 3 shots at an odd interval and fell over dead. For all intents and purposes on my screen he shot me through the truck.

What he saw on his screen was dramatically different. He saw me, peak and fired and I fell over dead instantly. We literally were not even in the same ****ing game basically.

Last patch has broken me completely with regard to battlefield.

ktulu123

Jesus that's bad....

grizzly

Yep, it's broken. I'm going to get stuck into Dayz standalone and come back in a few months. At least that game warns it's still in Alpha.

MajesticDonkey

Dat netcode...

mozattack

PS4 here....

Game working okay recently but I have been shot more times than ever last night when ducking for cover than since release (yes in one night). Also I got shot by a machine gun who was below me in the buildings of Rogue Transmission... WTF?

jumbobreakfast

New server and PC client patch this morning so maybe it improves things for you.

However, reports are coming in that obliteration is broken now. If someone drops the bomb you can't pick it up again.

I'm usually patient with bug fixes because BF is such a complex game but after the previous SLI bug and now this I think Dice's development process has sunk to a new low.

Cuddlesworth

I don't think they quite have the vehicle balance the way I would have thought it should be.

Scout helicopters should dominate against infantry and light vehicles.

Attack Choppers should dominate against tanks and light vehicles, with the gunner doing medium damage against infantry.

Attack planes should do medium damage against air, great damage against tanks/light vehicles.

Stealth planes should dominate against air, meh on everything else.

Light infantry vehicles should be a mix of transport/ decent damage against infantry. Same with the transport choppers.

Tanks should dominate against any other ground vehicle and do good damage against infantry.

Infantry should be able to kill anything with enough numbers. Eg, 3 Engineers with Stingers can kill any air vehicle, or 4 with RPG's against a tank etc.


Meanwhile whats actually happened is that LAV's, scout helicopters and attack jets are good against everything. Attack choppers and Stealth Jets are rarely worth the effort. Tanks are spot on.

ktulu123

Nail on the head there I recon Cuddlesworth!

Wonda-Boy

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

I don't think they quite have the vehicle balance the way I would have thought it should be.

Scout helicopters should dominate against infantry and light vehicles.

Attack Choppers should dominate against tanks and light vehicles, with the gunner doing medium damage against infantry.

Attack planes should do medium damage against air, great damage against tanks/light vehicles.

Stealth planes should dominate against air, meh on everything else.

Light infantry vehicles should be a mix of transport/ decent damage against infantry. Same with the transport choppers.

Tanks should dominate against any other ground vehicle and do good damage against infantry.

Infantry should be able to kill anything with enough numbers. Eg, 3 Engineers with Stingers can kill any air vehicle, or 4 with RPG's against a tank etc.


Meanwhile whats actually happened is that LAV's, scout helicopters and attack jets are good against everything. Attack choppers and Stealth Jets are rarely worth the effort. Tanks are spot on.

But if EA/DICE did this we would have a good game that works......that is not the remit of EA/DICE has not been since BF2 ffs. :rolleyes:

Sierra Oscar

Any indications as to when Second Assault will be released for PC players? Would be nice to have it over Christmas.

fergus1001

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Any indications as to when Second Assault will be released for PC players? Would be nice to have it over Christmas.

This.

Sparks

It was supposed to be out two weeks after the xbox release date, but the no-work-on-DLCs-until-the-core-game-is-fixed rule has pushed that back. They've no date at the moment for it. Doubt we'll see it till january though.

MajesticDonkey

Sparks wrote: »

It was supposed to be out two weeks after the xbox release date, but the no-work-on-DLCs-until-the-core-game-is-fixed rule has pushed that back. They've no date at the moment for it. Doubt we'll see it till january though.

It was supposed to be January anyway, I believe....according to the Premium page on Battlelog.

Sierra Oscar

Sparks wrote: »

... but the no-work-on-DLCs-until-the-core-game-is-fixed rule has pushed that back.

That's fair enough I guess! Would have been nice to have it during the holidays.

FlyingIrishMan

Was China Rising given out for free? Opened Origin for the first time in about two weeks and it just started downloading.

Spear

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

Was China Rising given out for free? Opened Origin for the first time in about two weeks and it just started downloading.

No, it shares content with the main game, weapons etc, so you'll need to download a lot of it anyway.

FlyingIrishMan

Spear wrote: »

No, it shares content with the main game, weapons etc, so you'll need to download a lot of it anyway.

Were they not added in a patch just before China Rising came out? Pretty sure I remember using some China Rising weapons in base game a couple of weeks ago.

Spear

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

Were they not added in a patch just before China Rising came out? Pretty sure I remember using some China Rising weapons in base game a couple of weeks ago.

They were. If you already have that patch, then you're just seeing the other more recent patches.

FlyingIrishMan

Spear wrote: »

They were. If you already have that patch, then you're just seeing the other more recent patches.

Alright, I'll take your word for it. Atm I have one 800mb patch downloading, and a 4.5GB expansion pack.

Mad_Dave

Still getting constant Error game disconnected: client closed down messages on PC.
I can join empty servers and occasionally ones with a handful of players, but that's it.
I've set up port forwarding, updated punkbuster, reinstalled everything - no joy. Is there anything else I could try, or do I have to wait for a new patch ?

When I do get a chance to play the game's great. Graphics are amazing, and the extra FPS over ps3 makes a huge difference. Struggling to adapt back to the KB+M combo, been a console player for quite a few years now. Keyboard in particular feels very unresponsive compared to a controller thumbstick.

Blazer

Mad_Dave wrote: »

Still getting constant Error game disconnected: client closed down messages on PC.
I can join empty servers and occasionally ones with a handful of players, but that's it.
I've set up port forwarding, updated punkbuster, reinstalled everything - no joy. Is there anything else I could try, or do I have to wait for a new patch ?

When I do get a chance to play the game's great. Graphics are amazing, and the extra FPS over ps3 makes a huge difference. Struggling to adapt back to the KB+M combo, been a console player for quite a few years now. Keyboard in particular feels very unresponsive compared to a controller thumbstick.

christ I'm the opposite..can more than hold my own on the PC on BF4 but have it on the xb1 as well and getting slaughtered..feels like the controller is lagging about 5 secs behind

kryogen

So, does anybody play the single player mode in the then?

5uspect

kryogen wrote: »

So, does anybody play the single player mode in the then?

I played the campaign. It's ****e, even worse than the one in BF3 with the exception of the removal of the QTEs.

kryogen

kryogen wrote: »

So, does anybody play the single player mode in the then?

TBH the way these sort of FPS have gone, the SP is a waste of resources and tacked on to quell criticism.

Games like COD/BF would be aswell off dropping the SP and adding some extra maps or improving the MP further.
Can't remember the last time I finished the SP of a FPS that was geared at MP, you just can't get into them.

I'd include FIFA in that aswell, they should just stop wasting time developing SP game modes and give us a better MP experience.

5uspect

gilberto_eire wrote: »

TBH the way these sort of FPS have gone, the SP is a waste of resources and tacked on to quell criticism.

Games like COD/BF would be aswell off dropping the SP and adding some extra maps or improving the MP further.
Can't remember the last time I finished the SP of a FPS that was geared at MP, you just can't get into them.

I'd include FIFA in that aswell, they should just stop wasting time developing SP game modes and give us a better MP experience.

Well I can understand the likes of FiFA having a single player element. It's functionally the same as MP. Plus it's always had single player and people like my brother only play it offline.

If the BF single player experience was similar to the open nature of MP rather than some horribly scripted tech demo, then it would be perhaps worthwhile.

Mad_Dave

Seems I can't join any servers with more than 15 players currently playing.
Been testing this out over the last while and that number is the only constant factor in servers I can join.

Is there some setting on my end that's causing this or is it just my slow internet connection ?

Spear

Mad_Dave wrote: »

Seems I can't join any servers with more than 15 players currently playing.
Been testing this out over the last while and that number is the only constant factor in servers I can join.

Is there some setting on my end that's causing this or is it just my slow internet connection ?

That's odd, but it if it's consistent it could indicate something. The overall traffic used by any game is usually fairly tiny. But 15 players means more traffic nevertheless, so I wonder if 15 is enough to put it over a certain threshold and trigger something like an anti-DDoS mechanism in your firewall or router. Have you tried disabling them?

Tramps Like Us

Game is seriously pissing me off now. Playstation 3 keeps resetting itself whenever I try to quit the game (via ps button) and it occasionally gets stuck on loading screens and my campaign progress has got deleted 3 times now. I'm only doing the career to unlock some weapons, the pistol seems a bit sh!t, are any of the other weapons you unlock via career worth getting?

MP is great fun though. I've been sniping a lot and have unlocked a few of them, the scout elite, m40a5 and sv98. Have been using scout elite a lot, it just seems more nimble or something, reloads quickly and is easier to hit people who are moving, but any shots over about 100 meters are pretty crap, have to hit people three times sometimes. So I end up with lots of hits and assists but not many kills. I prefer it to the default rifle, but would the m4oa5 or sv98 (haven't touched them) be better for someone like me who likes to hang back and pick people off at distances of about 200m?

Spear

Tramps Like Us wrote: »

Game is seriously pissing me off now. Playstation 3 keeps resetting itself whenever I try to quit the game (via ps button) and it occasionally gets stuck on loading screens and my campaign progress has got deleted 3 times now. I'm only doing the career to unlock some weapons, the pistol seems a bit sh!t, are any of the other weapons you unlock via career worth getting?

I found the P90 to be a much better alternative than the MX4 when starting out as an engineer.

Sparks

Tramps Like Us wrote: »

are any of the other weapons you unlock via career worth getting?

The M249. Only LMG I use anymore. The MG4 is comparable, with a slightly different reload pattern, but the 249 is just so damn handy out of the box that none of the others has ever stacked up against it for me.


Also, while I like the idea of the scout elite because I've used the real-world version, it's about the worst sniper rifle in the game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-E3DVEIN1Q

I don't snipe much myself, but I can't fault what he's saying about it, I much prefered the basic starting rifles to this one.