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Browns trade Trent Richardson to Colts

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    #242
    Syferus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭Syferus


    How does a player's sub-par performance elicit such venom in people? I thought we had a little more sense here than the average fan.


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    #243
    Phoenix Park
    Registered Users Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Phoenix Park


    Syferus wrote: »
    How does a player's sub-par performance elicit such venom in people? I thought we had a little more sense here than the average fan.

    I don't think it's venom. He's clearly been awful, at least so far. I thought he'd do a lot better myself, clearly I called it wrong.


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    #244
    davyjose
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    If we lose tonight, I won't forgive him for that fumble for a long, long time.


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    #245
    Alfred Borden
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    Tried to defend him every week because refuse to give up on your own players but he really sucks, worst move of Grigson era and wont be topped for a long time.


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    #246
    davyjose
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    Raf32 wrote: »
    Tried to defend him every week because refuse to give up on your own players but he really sucks, worst move of Grigson era and wont be topped for a long time.

    Yeah I tried to defend him too. His fumblecompletely tilted the game in KCs favour.


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    #247
    Alfred Borden
    Registered Users Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    davyjose wrote: »
    Yeah I tried to defend him too. His fumblecompletely tilted the game in KCs favour.

    Yup killed all Luck and the offences momentum, nearly blew the Denver game too when we played so well, cant release him but hope he is #3 next year for short yardage situations.


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    #248
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Raf32 wrote: »
    Yup killed all Luck and the offences momentum, nearly blew the Denver game too when we played so well, cant release him but hope he is #3 next year for short yardage situations.

    We need a receiver and this years draft will be very deep for WRs. And we miss out. Fcuk. That.


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    #249
    me89
    Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭me89


    Yes can't beleive he threw that pick and didn't cover Avery or Bowe.

    Stop over reacting


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    #250
    Alfred Borden
    Registered Users Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    davyjose wrote: »
    We need a receiver and this years draft will be very deep for WRs. And we miss out. Fcuk. That.

    Yup could have gone with brown and some journeyman this year and would have been no difference, then have brown, ballard and bradshaw next year with a new wr but no we really messed it up.


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    #251
    davyjose
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    me89 wrote: »
    Yes can't beleive he threw that pick and didn't cover Avery or Bowe.

    Stop over reacting

    What are you talking about. He gave the ball away for a score at a pivotal moment of the game.

    Look back through this thread and look at his stats and look how we defended him. Enough is enough. He was a waste of a draft pick. Simple as.


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    #252
    Syferus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭Syferus


    davyjose wrote: »
    If we lose tonight, I won't forgive him for that fumble for a long, long time.

    Very hard to blame this on Richardson when Luck has transformed into Rex Grossman.


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    #253
    mikemac1
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    me89 wrote: »

    Stop over reacting

    If the Colts wanted a big back with pass protection skills then Willis McGahee and Peyton Hillis could have been picked up as cheap free agents

    Instead they spent a valuable 1st rounder on Richardson

    So naturally expectations will be a lot higher


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    #254
    me89
    Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭me89


    Syferus wrote: »
    Very hard to blame this on Richardson when Luck has transformed into Rex Grossman.

    Exactly and the D hasn't even got near stopping a Chiefs drive yet.


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    #255
    matthew8
    Registered Users Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    I wouldn't blame this on any one offensive player. If your defense can't stop a single drive there's little you can do on offense. It reminds me of the huge blame placed on the Cowboys offense after their defense gave up 34 second half points to the Packers.


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    #256
    Billy86
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    Richardson to make a game-winning 95 yard TD run that puts Marshawn Lynch's 'beast mode' run vs the Saints to shame. :p


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    #257
    LuckyLloyd
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    Eh, playoffs: 1 carry for 0 yards and a fumble returned for a score

    Wow tbh.


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    #258
    Billy86
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    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Eh, playoffs: 1 carry for 0 yards and a fumble returned for a score

    Wow tbh.
    To be fair it wasn't returned for a score. It was recovered, and the Chiefs scored from the following drive.

    Still, he's the third guy in a rotation at best, really. Terrible trade and what I am still perplexed about it how he was getting a good amount of praise last year at Cleveland despite not being a tonne better than he has been this season.


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    #259
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Richardson to make a game-winning 95 yard TD run that puts Marshawn Lynch's 'beast mode' run vs the Saints to shame. :p

    Kind of went the complete opposite to this huh


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    #260
    Billy86
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    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    Kind of went the complete opposite to this huh



    EDIT:

    :pac:


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    #261
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users Posts: 6,744 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Dammit I forgot to put in my :pac: face in the comment


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    #262
    Billy86
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    I gotcha covered in my post. :p


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    #263
    LuckyLloyd
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    Trent Richardson:

    2012: Rushing Attempts: 267 Rushing Yards: 950 YPC: 3.6 TD: 11 Fumbles: 3
    2013: Rushing Attempts: 188 Rushing Yards: 563 YPC: 3.0 TD: 3 Fumbles: 3

    2012: Thrown To: 70 Catches: 51 Receiving Yards: 367 YPC: 7.2 TD: 1
    2013: Thrown To: 52 Catches: 35 Receiving Yards: 316 YPC: 9.0 TD: 1

    A pretty astonishing regression and it now looks like very unlikely that he's a viable NFL player beyond his rookie deal.

    The good news for the Colts is that they're paying him relatively little for a top five pick (Cleveland invested the bulk of his contract) and he's a body on the roster with situation specific value (he's okay catching out of the backfield tbf). I think they'll keep him until the current deal is up which gives TRich time and touches to turn it around.

    Draft busts are always fascinating aren't they?


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    #264
    death1234567
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    Versus the Pats'

    3 carries for 1 yard.


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    #265
    Silver-Tiger
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    We end up with the 26th pick.


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    #266
    polaris68
    Registered Users Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭polaris68


    death1234567 wrote: »
    Versus the Pats'

    3 carries for 1 yard.

    I think he put in a good block for one of Luck's TD passes :pac:


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    #267
    Chucky the tree
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    Still amazed at the reaction to the trade "Browns with another dumb move" etc. At the time it was even obvious richardson was very over-rated.


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    #268
    taidghbaby
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    davyjose wrote: »
    can't believe people are ridiculing the Browns over this one: they've given up a fair-to-middling RB for a first round pick. They're being realistic about being a rebuilding team. I think they deserve credit or this. They have a lot of room to manoeuvre in next years draft, and in all likelihood will trade that 1st round pick for a QB or a tackle.

    Now look at the Colts. They've sold the farm to be a what... a 9-7, 10-6 team this season and then what? They have 4 RB's on the roster (the 3 B's and richardson) but have no pass-rush, no O-line, a below average D-line, and an Average MLB core. This was as plain as day to any Colts fan -- we NEED to build an O-line to protect Luck. The Colts recently are a perfect lesson in why you NEED a good O-line. Now we have an extra running back and no O-line. We fcuking needed that pick badly.

    Meanwhile the Browns are in a position to truly grow. And yeah, they've sacrificed this season for it. A season in which they had no chance of success anyway.

    This deserves to be brought up again! I likewise wasn't happy with the trade, but judging by what Richardson has done the trade is looking like one of the worst moves in recent memory by the Colts!


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    #269
    LuckyLloyd
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    Silver-Tiger wrote: »
    We end up with the 26th pick.

    Decent value in the end.


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    #270
    LuckyLloyd
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    6 carries for 20 yards in loss
    3 catches for 31 yards


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    #271
    HigginsJ
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    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    6 carries for 20 yards in loss
    3 catches for 31 yards



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