Leftovers [HBO] [** Spoilers **]

Unearthly

A very brave opening episode, and I think they pulled it off.

Opening 10 minutes was confusingly brilliant

FloatingVoter

I thought I had downloaded the wrong flick. Expect Chris Ecclestone and get pregnant cave bird instead. And we have a fireman who applied for arsonist but went in the wrong door. Also not the first to do a 6 stretch for not attempting hard enough.

Between this and The Good Wife returning to form the weather has never looked better.

Skerries

so is the ranking system for miracles?

Crumbs

A wonderful and fascinating opener. Love this show.

Was anyone else expecting the opening sequence to turn out that it was all in the present and the woman with the baby walked around and saw the people swimming?

sweetie

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Was anyone else expecting the opening sequence to turn out that it was all in the present and the woman with the baby walked around and saw the people swimming?

I thought it was a bit of a Kubrick rip off tbh

readyletsgo

Watched this last night. Been eating since last year for it. It was Amazing! And to be honest I don't care if it's the guy who did lost, at least I know what to expect, lots and lots of unanswered questions, which after last night's premier, I'm totally fine with, lived it!!!

Watched this after the FTWD finally, that was, hmm, ok I guess.

Leftovers has its hooks in me from the first cave woman. I read an article after watching it and one of the writers said, ' how do we start season two? another said 'well it will start with a "previously on Leftovers" thing, so why don't we just go way way way back in time as a "previously".'

So like an inside joke that was put together really well. Wonder if they will build on the child and the new cave woman story at the start of each episode?

Actually thinking about it now, I am wondering whether the opening sequence and everything else are in the present, with the quakes being the indicator?

Do we think that the teenage girls were kidnapped or vanished? I love that a lot of this had a real Final Destination feel to it, with regards to the impending sense of doom with the fire captain, after being told something bad was going to happen.

jcsoulinger

I reckon the opening sequence was in the distant past. The girls were probably swimming and went down the sinkhole with the water.

I don't really know what to make of this show to be honest, A lot more new questions now without any old answers. I'm happy to go along with it tho and not really think about it too much, just enjoy it for what it is. It is a very easy watch as its production values are so high and it does move along at a steady pace.

Hope that smoking cult don't reappear was well sick of them by the end of season one.

I thought they were incredible.

The scene with one of their members being stoned to death is up there with some of the most brutal TV out there.

FloatingVoter

Point was if weird things were happening every 50,000 years with earthquakes and people disappearing. Back in the day , you picked up and trotted on. Bit like snakebites, **** happens.
Now, well someone should make a TV show about it. Halley's comet every 75 years, an orbit around the Sun once a year, and a percentage of the population go missing every 50 millenia. Or would the new god Science have a problem with something that doesn't exist within its frame of reference ?

jcsoulinger

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I thought they were incredible.

The scene with one of their members being stoned to death is up there with some of the most brutal TV out there.

Any scene which depicts a stoning is going to be brutal regardless of cult membership. I probably liked that scene for the wrong reasons.

I just got bored of them very quickly, the leader was very annoying although I suppose that was the point.

The other plotlines in the show are far more interesting imo.

castletownman

What a way to kick-start the new season. Was immersed in it from the first minute to the last.

There was a prevailing sense of "what the hell?", but in a good way, surrounding the opening ten minutes (that poor cave woman). Would agree with other posters sentiments about the new characters. The fire chief in particular looks like been central to the story-line this season. Can see that Kevin has him sussed out already though.

Anyone have any thoughts as to why the out-going preacher cut off Matt Jamison's story regarding his wife? Surely a town that appears to be a religious haven would be embracing it's miracles?

Oh and the new opening credits might possible the best I've ever seen. Never really liked the old one. Thought it was a bit creepy or whatever.

irish son

Great and confusing opening episode.

The shows score is the best I think I've ever heard for a tv show.

Walter Bishop

Lindelof has said that the opening sequence was inspired by deciding to do a 'previously on The Leftovers' bit, then decided to take it as previously as they could...

Great opening episode.

CastorTroy

When he was cycling through the town and seeing things like the woman in the wedding dress, I was half expecting a narration to say Elvis lives on his paper route and Bigfoot eats from the trash.

(I'm sure someone will get the reference )

naughto

The dude filling water from the river has the girls iam thinking.
Also why was there naked people living in a cave or did I miss some thing

FloatingVoter

naughto wrote: »

The dude filling water from the river has the girls iam thinking.
Also why was there naked people living in a cave or did I miss some thing

Probably the first season.:)

Naked people living in caves was kind of the norm in prehistoric times.

Another great episode. For my money, Leftovers is one of the best shows on TV right now. Wonder how the hell he ended up there with the brick wrapped around his foot.

FortuneChip

So just watched the "We don't really know each other" conversation

What an amazing scene!

GottaGetGatt

Just gets better and better.The musical score is just superb.

Marje

Great start to season 2, cast and music.

I got the impression from what I saw in the first episode, the residents shouldn't believe in miracles and it's frowned upon if you do.

beardo81

Great second episode, it really is like nothing else out there. The acting, story, everything is exceptional.

Is Kevin descending into madness? He is having a hard time keeping it together. Nora also seems like she is trying too hard to be happy, anything could break her.

Having to wait a week between episodes is torture!

Azalea

Utterly utterly wonderful. Hoping dearly it won't go the way of Lost.

castletownman

I was genuinely speechless at the end of the episode. How in the hell did he end up there with the brick tied around his ankle?

Of course the score helps paint the scene as well. The best use of music I have ever seen on a TV show.

jcsoulinger

It could be that he attempted to kill himself while on one of his sleepwalking episodes, It was a really good finish totally unexpected.

Deathwish4

Seriously entertaining television this. Keeps you engaged, intrigued, mystified and downright flummoxed in equal measure. Love it.

FloatingVoter

Seriously reminiscent of Twin Peaks at its height. I was tempted to say the characters aren't as weird but then remembered we have a lady who hires prostitutes to shoot her (but doesn't anymore). And a suicidal sheriff with a domestically violent ghost issue.

johnpatrick81

yeah it's great. So well made. So many bat**** mental things going on. Love it.

beardo81

Anyone think Patty somehow got Kevin into the river with the brick tied to his leg, through his visions of her or dreams?

Or perhaps she saved him by having something to do with the water disappearing.

Either way, if John finds him, there is trouble.

Was just thinking about the new intro song and I think it fits it really well. On the surface, it's happy and light, but underneath there are the dark undertones and something not quite right. Exactly like the town of Miracle.

DareGod

Season 2 is stunning so far.

Unearthly

My favorite show on TV at the moment. Unfortunately the ratings are poor. Hopefully hbo stick with it.

I could listen to that piano soundtrack all day

CastorTroy

Was just wondering, what happened to Aimee?

Walter Bishop

Another amazing episode. This season could even surpass the first.

castletownman

Wow. Just wow. I have never seen such a profound show in all my time watching telly

beardo81

Good episode again, music excellent as always. That's all the main characters from 1st series now present I think?

Story is progressing nicely, always compelling and it really is hard to guess where it is going.

Loving it

Shane St.

The music makes so many scenes!

Foxtrol

Such great riveting TV.

It's so hard to work out where we stand as far as supernatural occurrences go (aside from the departing itself) as they've seemingly given every character involved some or all of a motive to lie, it being coincidences, or them being mentally disturbed.

I might be wrong, but in the background of a scene, when they had a TV with the news playing, which someone muted/turned off, were they talking about a cave somewhere and a collection of people?

Giving rise to my belief that the very opening scene was in present times.

CastorTroy

The cave was just outside Perth and was someone previously thought dead. Guess it's along the lines of that tv actor who faked his disappearance.

Second time now I heard that version of Where is my Mind in the past couple of months or so.

I can't remember, but did Holy Wayne die?

On another note, I can think of worse punishments than having to have sex with Liv Tyler.

Azalea

That punishment scene was freaky - the way some of the worst things imaginable being done to the guy are going through your mind... but they don't happen.
The way she just got up on him, his hands shackled, without him inviting it was sexual assault though, even if he was aroused and climaxed. Something that's not often explored on television.

Simply marvellous as ever. Yes, Holy Wayne did die - Kevin junior found him in a public toilet in his last moments. As far as I recall, he was bleeding to death as a result of inflicting a wound on himself.

Foxtrol

Azalea wrote: »

That punishment scene was freaky - the way some of the worst things imaginable being done to the guy are going through your mind... but they don't happen.
The way she just got up on him, his hands shackled, without him inviting it was sexual assault though, even if he was aroused and climaxed. Something that's not often explored on television.

Simply marvellous as ever. Yes, Holy Wayne did die - Kevin junior found him in a public toilet in his last moments. As far as I recall, he was bleeding to death as a result of inflicting a wound on himself.

My thoughts when she was doing it was that it might be that they would go to the cops and say (/write) that he assaulted her but after the ending with Tommy's claims could she be looking for another 'special' baby. They could also all be simply insane.

It was Kevin himself that found Wayne with a wound to his stomach and then was offered him a wish. I dont think they ever stated that it was self inflicted. After Tommy's story about running into Wayne I think it was him who injured Wayne, it was either part of how to transfer the power or that Tommy just flipped out at him for lying to him and attacked him.

The latter is more likely to me as I can see a flashback that Wayne runs into Tommy there, finally gets Tommy to hug him but Tommy feels nothing, flips out and attacks him because he thinks everything he was put through was a con by Wayne. Possible evidence for this would be Wayne doubting his powers when Kevin found him, possibly because of his hug doing nothing for Tommy, and that I think Tommy is lying about Wayne passing on his powers to him, as Wayne seemed to think he still had his power right before he died as he tried to test them on Kevin.

FortuneChip

Foxtrol wrote: »

It was Kevin himself that found Wayne with a wound to his stomach and then was offered him a wish. I dont think they ever stated that it was self inflicted. After Tommy's story about running into Wayne I think it was him who injured Wayne, it was either part of how to transfer the power or that Tommy just flipped out at him for lying to him and attacked him.

Is Tommy not just BSing the crew though?
The conversation he has with his mam in the car. "We stripped it away" "We have to give them something" so he fabricates the story that he is now "Holy Wayne"

FloatingVoter

FortuneChip wrote: »

Is Tommy not just BSing the crew though?
The conversation he has with his mam in the car. "We stripped it away" "We have to give them something" so he fabricates the story that he is now "Holy Wayne"

He is. The whole "I am the Messiah" thing is for now just a trick on their pointy little heads.
He's quite good at it, hopefully he won't start believing it himself.

Foxtrol

FortuneChip wrote: »

Is Tommy not just BSing the crew though?
The conversation he has with his mam in the car. "We stripped it away" "We have to give them something" so he fabricates the story that he is now "Holy Wayne"

I agree that I think he's BSing them, that's why elaborated more on the idea that he attacked Wayne when his hug did nothing to him and realised he was conned. We've seen he has no qualms with lying or hurting people when it suits him.

I think the departing has messed with everyone's heads about what is possible that most are much more likely to believe what they wouldn't before, be it voices in their heads being real, signs from god, someone claiming to have magic powers rather than the more likely alternatives that voices are just someone having mental issues, god giving a sign is just coincidence, and that the person with powers is conning them.

It's interesting and impressive that the audience are going through a mild version of what people in that situation are. For example from the sound of things we're all confident that Tommy is lying but in a would where 2% of the population has disappeared can we be totally sure he hasn't taken on the power to take people's pain away? It's such good TV.

Azalea

Paterson Joseph - good auld Johnson from Peep Show as Holy Wayne.

Will be watching him in another apocalyptic show shortly (You, Me & The Apocalypse).

johnpatrick81

Now, who wants a hug?

Brilliant tv! Hope it keeps up the high standard for a long long time. Was really hoping a truck didn't come along at that opportune moment:(

Confucius say

Carrie Coon is so gorgeous and I'd go gay for Kevin Garvey. Episode 4 was good just watched it, really enjoying the 2nd series, dying to see if Holy Wayne's powers have been shifted to the youngfella.

TerrorFirmer

This show is absurdly good.

Viewing figures are bad, however.