Sonic The Hedgehog

gavingaz

Hi guys, use this here thread to discuss the Sonic The Hedgehog games.

CiDeRmAn

Eh, what?

Atavan-Halen

I like Sonic. So much so I have him permanently on my leg.

the groutch

gavingaz wrote: »

Hi guys, use this here thread to discuss the Sonic The Hedgehog games.

Mod with only 13 posts?

o1s1n

Atavan-Halen wrote: »

I like Sonic. So much so I have him permanently on my leg.

Does he make you run faster? :pac:

Atavan-Halen

Yeah. I have this strange urge to steal gold rings too.

CiDeRmAn

An obsession with Sonic probably belongs in the Sega forum.

Also, making general chat forums is kinda the moderators job but good for you and your enthusiasm!

Atavan-Halen

Yeah no one should ever start general discussion threads

>.>

<.<

CiDeRmAn

I know where you live, ya feckin alcho!

Atavan-Halen

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I know where you live, ya feckin alcho!

Excuse you I'm not actually drinking at this current moment! Maybe in the next moment but not this one!

nitromaster

2 is the best.

Ended up stuck on the desert level a decade (or more :eek:) ago on Sonic+Knuckles and never got past it.

And now I feel old, thanks OP

Retr0gamer

Edit: Ciderman hates furries.

johnny_ultimate

This song has been stuck in my head for close to two decades now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ2RdImvSwg

Find myself humming it at least once a week.

gavingaz

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

An obsession with Sonic probably belongs in the Sega forum.

Also, making general chat forums is kinda the moderators job but good for you and your enthusiasm!

Just trying to start a decent chat. It seems that moderators are the only ones allowed to post/have an opinion/chat without receiving a warning or being scrutinised for only having a handful of posts. You have to start somewhere, we don't automatically have 10,000 posts. No need to be suspicious of newcomers lads, that's how you meet new people. That paranoia is bad for the soul. Get out more.

Myrddin

gavingaz wrote: »

Just trying to start a decent chat. It seems that moderators are the only ones allowed to post/have an opinion/chat without receiving a warning or being scrutinised for only having a handful of posts. You have to start somewhere, we don't automatically have 10,000 posts. No need to be suspicious of newcomers lads, that's how you meet new people. That paranoia is bad for the soul. Get out more.

I think it was more your wording, "Use this thread..." etc, it's nothing to do with your postcount, you wern't being scrutinized for not having many posts, nobody is suspicious of you, & we love new posters here. Welcome!

On topic, Sonic 1, 2, 3, CD & Knuckles, 1 & 2 on the Gamegear, & 1 & 2 on the Mastersystem are what I'd consider, true Sonic games. Everything else, pales in comparison.

o1s1n

You left out Spinball. I thought that was one of your favourites?

Myrddin

o1s1n wrote: »

You left out Spinball. I thought that was one of your favourites?

I don't consider it a Sonic game, it's a game with Sonic bolted in

Atavan-Halen

My favourite sonic game would be either sonic 1 or sonic cd. Adore the soundtrack in sonic cd.

Mr.Saturn

Sonic CD is quite cack, made cult by a generation of folk trying to justify their long-since purchase of a system that sometimes struggled to get its proper highlights any attention.

Sonic 3 goes funky at times, since there seems to have been a proper design oversight with the expansion of level-sizes, with no regard for how they impact upon the stage-timer. It's ostensibly set up for the player to explore these bigger areas, and find those crevices with all the secret fiddly bits, but if you dawdle at all, it's heavily against the clock. Its intention can left open to interpretation, but it strikes as either the aforementioned issues of time/design, or it's a fiddly twit of a reason to replay.

The Z-axis took about 11 years to do the series any favours, and a lot of the glaring committee decisions that plagued the mechanics, and overall franchise, in that time would count among the more frustrating times I've had with games.

Sonic Adventure 2 being a standout for my ire, with only Sonic and Shadow's levels resembling anything close to a game, and even they're doused with problem-juice, such as over-reliance on rail sections, wonky targeting and propensity to glitch out with nary a hint as to cause.

Aaaaannndddd yes, I've actually had good times with this series too.

o1s1n

Atavan-Halen wrote: »

My favourite sonic game would be either sonic 1 or sonic cd. Adore the soundtrack in sonic cd.

Sonic 1 is still my favourite. Often imitated, never bettered

Atavan-Halen

o1s1n wrote: »

Sonic 1 is still my favourite. Often imitated, never bettered

I remember when I got a Genesis and stuck sonic into it and played it in 60hz for the first time. Simply amazing.

o1s1n

Heh, yeah I bought a Genesis Mark 3 about 10 years ago when I was first starting to dip my toes into Ebay importing. Couldn't believe the speed difference. Made me feel like a right chump for playing it in 50hz for so many years.

Myrddin

Mr.Saturn wrote: »

Sonic CD is quite cack, made cult by a generation of folk trying to justify their long-since purchase of a system that sometimes struggled to get its proper highlights any attention.

Nevertheless, it's still Sonic. The physics, artwork, controls, sountrack {US aside} were all spot on. Once the art & physics changed, the series ended for me. It's just a tired old mascot now, living on its once glorious quality.

Hank Scorpio

Any excuse to post this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LYB7iLZNWE

o1s1n

That tune doesn't have a patch on Marble Zone!

Actually I think Marble Zone is a song that works better in 50hz. Adds to the jazzy-ness!

Myrddin

I'm partial to a bit of Aquatic Ruin zone music myself

Star Lord

Sonic 2 on the GameGear was my favourite ever Sonic game. Beautifully atmospheric for such a limited system. Flying in on the hang glider through the storm, beautiful.

o1s1n

Anyone else try to visualize Sonic based on the original level layout from the level select menu? Still can't get my head around Labyrinth Zone being stage 2. Imagine that drowning timer so early on in the game :eek:

Star Lord

Oh yeah, it was definitely the 2nd! They didn't give any real leeway with the Sonic games! In at the deep end! (Literally in this case!)

Myrddin

o1s1n wrote: »

Anyone else try to visualize Sonic based on the original level layout from the level select menu?

Is that the originally planned layout? I always just assumed it was alphabetical, final zone excluded of course...

johnny_ultimate

I hate the water zones in Sonic games almost unconditionally. Incredibly stressful with that goddamn countdown music. The only part of them I like is when you zip past them in or on an acceleration pipe :pac:

I tried Sonic 4: Episode II on iOS recently. Every other stage had a water segment, and it made me want to crack the touch screen in half.

o1s1n

EnterNow wrote: »

Is that the originally planned layout? I always just assumed it was alphabetical, final zone excluded of course...

That's interesting, I've never noticed that they were alphabetical

Here's a bit from SonicRetro about the level order;

This zone (Labyrinth) was originally supposed to be the second zone instead of the fourth, according to the unaltered Level Select menu. It is theorized to have been switched with Marble Zone in terms of level placement due to its higher difficulty.

So all that thinking goes on the level select menu I believe - but maybe it just happens to be alphabetical and all the theories are wrong!

Star Lord

Really? I was sure that the Labyrinth Zone was 2nd, at least on my GG!

(Then again, it's been a long time! )

o1s1n

DamoElDiablo wrote: »

Really? I was sure that the Labyrinth Zone was 2nd, at least on my GG!

(Then again, it's been a long time! )

Ive read some theories that the first Sonic Game Gear game is really close to the fabled missing Sonic proto.

Myrddin

o1s1n wrote: »

Ive read some theories that the first Sonic Game Gear game is really close to the fabled missing Sonic proto.

Missing proto?

o1s1n

EnterNow wrote: »

Missing proto?

Never heard about that no? Watch the Waynes world segments where theyre in a studio with Sonic running on monitors in the background - it aint the same as regular Sonic.

Fairly sure the clip is on youtube. Would link but am on my phone!

Sega have been asked to dig it out of their vaults but it cant be found.

Which is weird as there have been leaked builds of all the other games.

Myrddin

This??

o1s1n

Cant play videos on my phone but from the first frame I think thats it yeah. Ad for Noah's Arcade with Sonic in the background? theres a bit of green hill (with an enemy removed from the final version +but in the game booklet) and some Starlight Zone too.

CiDeRmAn

gavingaz wrote: »

Just trying to start a decent chat. It seems that moderators are the only ones allowed to post/have an opinion/chat without receiving a warning or being scrutinised for only having a handful of posts. You have to start somewhere, we don't automatically have 10,000 posts. No need to be suspicious of newcomers lads, that's how you meet new people. That paranoia is bad for the soul. Get out more.

I know EnterNow has covered this but seeing as it's my post you're quoting I'll just give you the situation as I see it.
Anyone can post a thread about anything.
There.
But to create a general area within the forum for users to post about, well, anything is rather the domain of the moderators.

Thus has nothing to do with post count.
I would not post in another forum, creating a general thread on any subject, however relevant to that forum topic it might be.

The other matter is the defensive tone of your post. That was unnecessary, no one here picks on anyone, aside from picking on Atavan and Retr0, occasionally I too come in for flak due to my superior taste in games

o1s1n

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I too come in for flak due to my superior taste in games

Where's that beer spitting gif when you need it!?

Star Lord

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

occasionally I too come in for flak due to my superior taste in games

Los Lobos

I won a sonic 2 t-shirt in a competition in some comic to celebrate the release of sonic 2 way back when, pretty cool it was too. man i rocked the **** outta that shirt, wish i still had it, the boys in the bog were pretty jealous let me tell you

o1s1n

EnterNow wrote: »

This??

Had a look and that clip and it's much shorter than the one I remember. Must have been taken down due to copywrite

Ste-

EnterNow wrote: »

Is that the originally planned layout? I always just assumed it was alphabetical, final zone excluded of course...

Surely if it was alphabetically it would have been

Green Hill
Labyrinth
Marble
Scrap Brain
Spring Yard
Star Light

Imagine that layout.

And don't call me Shirley.

deathrider

I was actually playing Sonic 4 the other night. I'd only ever played the demo, which I was never impressed with. I blew through the first few stages and had a bit of fun with them. I didn't realise how off everything really felt till I got to the spots where you were jumping across rotating cards and being blasted out of cannons. It all swiftly fell apart then.

This thread had me in the mood to break out the early games tonight though.

gavingaz

deathrider wrote: »

I was actually playing Sonic 4 the other night. I'd only ever played the demo, which I was never impressed with. I blew through the first few stages and had a bit of fun with them. I didn't realise how off everything really felt till I got to the spots where you were jumping across rotating cards and being blasted out of cannons. It all swiftly fell apart then.

This thread had me in the mood to break out the early games tonight though.

Sonic 1 is the best game ever, I have Sonic and all, it's a bit of a problum lol I wear the costume at Halloween too, what's your favorit episod of the Sonic cartoon

gavingaz

gavingaz wrote: »

Sonic 1 is the best game ever, I have Sonic and all, it's a bit of a problum lol I wear the costume at Halloween too, what's your favorit episod of the Sonic cartoon

I have Sonic curtains in my room I meant lol. Sonic CD was great too I love all the Sonic games they are the best games I have evr plyd

CiDeRmAn

gavingaz wrote: »

I have Sonic curtains in my room I meant lol. Sonic CD was great too I love all the Sonic games they are the best games I have evr plyd

Aren't Super Mario World and Yoshis Island not far far better? Also they've never made a decent 3d Sonic have while even the worst of the 3d Mario games, Super Mario Sunshine, is a far better game than the best Sonic game in 3d, Sonic Colors.
Of course, that's just my opinion

o1s1n

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Aren't Super Mario World and Yoshis Island not far far better? Also they've never made a decent 3d Sonic have while even the worst of the 3d Mario games, Super Mario Sunshine, is a far better game than the best Sonic game in 3d, Sonic Colors.
Of course, that's just my opinion

Super Mario World is but Yoshis Island isnt. Beautiful game but crazy overrated. Cant bring myself to finish it due to repetative bordom!

Retr0gamer

o1s1n wrote: »

Super Mario World is but Yoshis Island isnt. Beautiful game but crazy overrated. Cant bring myself to finish it due to repetative bordom!

Really? I thought Yoshi's was full of really creative level design.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

super mario sunshine > mario 64


there, i said it.