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Man your pumps, Wetherspoons are coming

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    #3542
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Absolutely, and make sure you hold press up, the mercantile group, the odeon group, porterhouse and brewdog to the same standards.....

    A thread with places we can go might be easier at this stage!


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    #3543
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,617 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    L1011 wrote: »
    Well, regulars in Neds have had to go somewhere else already as it was demolished months ago.

    ah no, another proper boozer done in. The Jammer must be extra jammed since then.


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    #3544
    sceach16
    Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭sceach16


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    A thread with places we can go might be easier at this stage!




    Can we come back to this thread in the fall?


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    #3545
    irish_goat
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Dunno about non-nationals not visiting Spoons. They'd surely appreciate the low prices given what they would be used to paying back home, plus the Spoons in Derry always got a good few of the local Polish in, presumably because you could get a good selection of Polish beers. Course, that might all change if Tim ever goes ahead with his plan to stop stocking as many EU products.


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    #3546
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,245 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    sceach16 wrote: »
    Can we come back to this thread in the fall?

    The what? :rolleyes:

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #3547
    Big Gerry
    Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    irish_goat wrote: »
    Dunno about non-nationals not visiting Spoons. They'd surely appreciate the low prices given what they would be used to paying back home, plus the Spoons in Derry always got a good few of the local Polish in, presumably because you could get a good selection of Polish beers. Course, that might all change if Tim ever goes ahead with his plan to stop stocking as many EU products.




    I'd say 90% of Non-Nationals drink at home.


    Most of them can't believe the price of drink when they come here.


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    #3548
    irish_goat
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Big Gerry wrote: »
    I'd say 90% of Non-Nationals drink at home.

    Most of them can't believe the price of drink when they come here.

    I'd believe a lot of them can't believe the price of a pint or a spirit plus mixer in a city centre bar. But that surely suggests they will be attracted to go to spoons. They also won't have the ingrained preconceptions of Wetherspoons that people here and in the UK have, i.e. that the beer is no good, or there's no atmosphere.


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    #3549
    Big Gerry
    Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    irish_goat wrote: »
    I'd believe a lot of them can't believe the price of a pint or a spirit plus mixer in a city centre bar. But that surely suggests they will be attracted to go to spoons. They also won't have the ingrained preconceptions of Wetherspoons that people here and in the UK have, i.e. that the beer is no good, or there's no atmosphere.


    Even with the likes of Wetherspoons its still far cheaper to drink at home.


    Some East Europeans think paying 3 Euro is too much for a beer.


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    #3550
    Barna77
    Registered Users Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭Barna77


    Big Gerry wrote: »

    Some East Europeans think paying 3 Euro is too much for a beer.

    It is when they are used to pay around €1.50, give or take

    The most expensive beer I've had in eastern Europe was around €3, 4 tops


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    #3551
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Barna77 wrote: »
    It is when they are used to pay around €1.50, give or take

    The most expensive beer I've had in eastern Europe was around €3, 4 tops

    Both Riga and Tallinn can easily beat that now in the touristy bits; and the craft bars.

    Riga is strikingly un-cheap for everything (except taxis) compared to the average income there.


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    #3552
    Big Gerry
    Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    Barna77 wrote: »
    It is when they are used to pay around €1.50, give or take

    The most expensive beer I've had in eastern Europe was around €3, 4 tops




    They must get a heart attack when they visit temple bar and see a pint costs between 7 to 8 Euro.


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    #3553
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,617 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Eastern Europeans aside a lot of non-nationals arent big drinkers anyway, at least not to Irish/British levels. Italians, French, etc dont go out to get bladdered like we do.

    That area is chock a block with 3k a month apartments, you'd need to be on a 100k+ salary to afford to live there. So I think its safe to say that the non-nationals living in the area are not price sensitive. For sure some will go to Spoons to check it out but they wont be there because they want to save a few quid over other venues.


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    #3554
    n97 mini
    Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    We've more non-nationals than East Europeans. A lot working in tech are from Western European countries and the US. My own experience of spoons is there are plenty of EE customers, and no so many of the latter group, but they do exist.


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    #3555
    heffo500
    Registered Users Posts: 963 ✭✭✭heffo500


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Yeah hard to know if thats enough to sustain them. Plus are the regulars in places like Neds and the Windjammer going to take a walk down to Hanover Quay? Remains to be seen but its not exactly on their door step. They might get a few punters too from Ringend but its still a bit of a strange location imo right in the heart of 3k a month apartments filled by people who arent exactly your average pub going crowd. Time will tell but I cant see it being that busy when it does open, it will tick over but it wont be doing massive revenues compared to other locations IMO.

    I think that location will do well during the week, lots companies in the area have graduates and plenty of people that will be more inclined to go for after work drinks when you can spend less than €50. Also the few pre drinks and post drinks after a show in the bord Gaia will help. Don't forget they might get people going to the Aviva, RDS and Three Arena for some cheap pre drinks.


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    #3556
    Reputable Rog
    Registered Users Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Reputable Rog


    These boys have done their sums and their research.
    They don’t tend to buy if they think it won’t work.
    They’ll do very well at this location.


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    #3557
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,617 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    heffo500 wrote: »
    I think that location will do well during the week, lots companies in the area have graduates and plenty of people that will be more inclined to go for after work drinks when you can spend less than €50. Also the few pre drinks and post drinks after a show in the bord Gaia will help. Don't forget they might get people going to the Aviva, RDS and Three Arena for some cheap pre drinks.

    I think they'll tick over nicely Mon to Fri, Id say weekends could be a bit of a famine though in that location, especially during the daytime. For sure a lot of graduates might have one or two there after work but they wont be on a piss up as they work for professional companies where hangovers are frowned upon. Fridays will be mobbed for proper sessions though. They'll definitely do okay from the Grand Canal Theater on the nights shows are on, lots of food to be sold there before people see a show.

    They might get a bit from the Three Arena though it would be better if that new bridge was built across the river as its an awkward walk involving doubling back on yourself. Though personally I think the Gibson is a fab place for pre show pints or food as theres always a great buzz about it with fellow concert goers.

    I still think its a bit of a bizarre move as much of their trade in that location will be dependent on people coming into the area from outside it. Being surrounded by thousands of people earning six figure sums doesnt seem a good fit for Spoons selling cheap beer and food. Non nationals living on their doorstep are unlikely to be the backbone of their business. Maybe they'll get some trade from lads who leave their regular Pearse St and Ringsend boozers, time will tell.


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    #3558
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    The what? :rolleyes:

    The fall of mankind.


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    #3559
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,824 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I'm going to get slated for this but people from other countries aren't non nationals - they have nationalities - they are foreign nationals.

    They also aren't a homogeneous group.


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    #3560
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,617 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Spoons announced that Camden Street will open in October this year. It will be called the Keavens Port, theyve gotten the old maps out again and thats what the area was once called. Its 89 bedrooms, 2 bars and 2 outdoor areas. Part of the original chapel from when the building was a convent has been restored.

    They also said its the biggest single investment in the companies history, circa 21 million.


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    #3561
    Technocentral
    Registered Users Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Spoons announced that Camden Street will open in October this year. It will be called the Keavens Port, theyve gotten the old maps out again and thats what the area was once called. Its 89 bedrooms, 2 bars and 2 outdoor areas. Part of the original chapel from when the building was a convent has been restored.

    They also said its the biggest single investment in the companies history, circa 21 million.

    Neverspoons the way to go now. Due to their treatment of their worker's I'm boycotting their ass, only supporting Irish pubs now.


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    #3562
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,790 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Spoons announced that Camden Street will open in October this year. It will be called the Keavens Port, theyve gotten the old maps out again and thats what the area was once called. Its 89 bedrooms, 2 bars and 2 outdoor areas. Part of the original chapel from when the building was a convent has been restored.

    They also said its the biggest single investment in the companies history, circa 21 million.

    Obviously heavily researched coppers and Diceys turnover



    As above that crazy haired looper won't be getting my cash. He's a brexit zealot and is terrible to his staff. The worst kind of nationalist.


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    #3563
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    listermint wrote: »
    Obviously heavily researched coppers and Diceys turnover



    As above that crazy haired looper won't be getting my cash. He's a brexit zealot and is terrible to his staff. The worst kind of nationalist.

    Unfortunately, the Coppers/Dicey's types won't have any such ethics in the face of cheap mediocre pints.


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    #3564
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Yeah I'm never going back in. Although I walked by a few in Manchester yesterday and where busy enough for 2pm


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    #3565
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I’d be all for never going near a Wetherspoons but I’d be wary of falling into the illusion that all Irish owned pubs and businesses are great to staff.


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    #3566
    Chelon
    Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭Chelon


    McGaggs wrote: »
    Unfortunately, the Coppers/Dicey's types won't have any such ethics in the face of cheap mediocre pints.

    Probably been discussed here before but out of interest why do you say mediocre?


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    #3567
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Chelon wrote: »
    Probably been discussed here before but out of interest why do you say mediocre?

    The pints in Dicey's, when I last went there, didn't taste great. Switching to bottles didn't help, as they were so bad at stocking them they would be served warm.

    I don't recall how the pints in Coppers were, so I may be being harsh there. Although I can safely brand their music as mediocre.


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    #3568
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users Posts: 5,685 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Chelon wrote: »
    Probably been discussed here before but out of interest why do you say mediocre?

    Just realised I worded my post Backwards. Not calling Spoons pints mediocre, but Dicey's pints


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    #3569
    Chelon
    Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭Chelon


    McGaggs wrote: »
    The pints in Dicey's, when I last went there, didn't taste great. Switching to bottles didn't help, as they were so bad at stocking them they would be served warm.

    I don't recall how the pints in Coppers were, so I may be being harsh there. Although I can safely brand their music as mediocre.

    Ok got you, would agree the pints there, "mediocre" is being kind. I did start a thread on here on Guinness quality many moons ago as in my experience it can vary wildly. I called a few pubs out on it and the thread got shut down so I'm not starting to name names again lol. As we all know some pubs just don't look after it.


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    #3570
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,824 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Chelon wrote: »
    As we all know some pubs just don't look after it.

    Almost no mainstream pubs look after their own lines. The breweries do it.


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    #3571
    Blut2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭Blut2


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Spoons announced that Camden Street will open in October this year. It will be called the Keavens Port, theyve gotten the old maps out again and thats what the area was once called. Its 89 bedrooms, 2 bars and 2 outdoor areas. Part of the original chapel from when the building was a convent has been restored.

    They also said its the biggest single investment in the companies history, circa 21 million.


    Great news. I wonder if it might actually lead to some price competition in the area. It'll surely hit traffic in nearby pubs like the Bleeding Horse pretty hard.


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