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Samsung Ativ S €215 delivered on amazon.de

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 eggnog98


    This seems like a steal to me! It says you can use up to 32gb but i've read reviews where people claim to be using 64gb. It's not 4G compatible but i don't think that will matter to me long-term. Others have problems with the OS i.e. Phone switching off or music transferring issues. If anyone has this phone would you recommend this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Atrides


    windows phone = sh... phone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭mtdelany


    Atrides wrote: »
    windows phone = sh... phone

    Do you have a windows phone or is this a "Man Utd is better than Liverpool" type arguement?



    there is a big gap in the irish market for mid priced phones where you either buy a €100 phone or a €500 phone

    Comparable phones price wise would be HTC 8S, Samsung Galaxy Ace II, Sony Xperia J, HTC Desire X, Samsung Galaxy S III Mini

    This phone is better than all of the above


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    eggnog98 wrote: »
    This seems like a steal to me! It says you can use up to 32gb but i've read reviews where people claim to be using 64gb. It's not 4G compatible but i don't think that will matter to me long-term. Others have problems with the OS i.e. Phone switching off or music transferring issues. If anyone has this phone would you recommend this?


    It is a steal, I bought from the .de site (make sure you buy through Amazon, not any reseller) and it was over 50e dearer one month ago.

    It's a great phone and OS for the price. Smooth as butter, only app I'm missing is my banking app.

    Windows blue update for the phone is due out in 2014, currently this phone receives the latest Microsoft update called GDR2 (beware, this was meant to enable FM radio on it but for some reason it hasn't - some people are saying the phone doesn't have the chip for it but others are saying the opposite)<-- anyway, tunein radio will do the job though that will use data out and about)
    GDR3 will be out sometime in next two months.

    Battery life is excellent, removable battery + microsd card slot.

    Phone is the brother to Galaxy S3/S4 in looks

    For the price it is top notch hardware + WP8 which is a really great mobile OS.

    PS I haven't had a problem with phone switching off or transferring files inc music


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    I got this phone last week through the link I posted. Arrived next day after shipping from Italy.

    Bought a class 4 16gb micro SD together with the phone. Coming from the iPhone 5, I'm really enjoying it.

    Hasn't rebooted once and transferring music to the card was a simple drag and drop affair.

    Music quality is really excellent, better than the iPhone 5 it replaced. Screen is lovely and AMOLED really suites WP8.

    Only annoying things so far is one volume for everything and IE isn't as good as Safari.

    I don't think you can beat it for the price. :D

    Oh and if you get it install GDR2(OS version:8.0.10327.77) straight away before setting up the phone as you need to reset the phone to get data sense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Etnies


    Stay away from Windows phones would be my advice, interface is terrible have the misfortune as having one as my work phone, pain to txt send mails, browse the internet on and the apps are atrocious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 eggnog98


    I don't have access to a comp at this moment (dwarf-screen mobile) so forgive my ignorance but can anyone confirm this is unlocked?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    eggnog98 wrote: »
    I don't have access to a comp at this moment (dwarf-screen mobile) so forgive my ignorance but can anyone confirm this is unlocked?

    Yes, it's sim free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 eggnog98


    Cheers for the feedback lads! Took the punt and by the sounds of it won't be disappointed :-) Thanks again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    eggnog98 wrote: »
    Cheers for the feedback lads! Took the punt and by the sounds of it won't be disappointed :-) Thanks again!

    Don't forget. When you get it to update it first. You will have to then reset the phone to get data sense. Data sense will show up in the list of apps.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    mad muffin wrote: »
    I got this phone last week through the link I posted. Arrived next day after shipping from Italy.

    Bought a class 4 16gb micro SD together with the phone. Coming from the iPhone 5, I'm really enjoying it.

    Hasn't rebooted once and transferring music to the card was a simple drag and drop affair.

    Music quality is really excellent, better than the iPhone 5 it replaced. Screen is lovely and AMOLED really suites WP8.

    Only annoying things so far is one volume for everything and IE isn't as good as Safari.

    I don't think you can beat it for the price. :D

    Oh and if you get it install GDR2(OS version:8.0.10327.77) straight away before setting up the phone as you need to reset the phone to get data sense.

    Hope you're enjoying it as much as I am, mad muffin ;-)

    Yes, the one volume for all is annoying hopefully that's fixed soon.
    I actually love IE on this phone and my RT - it's blazing fast.
    Another thing that needs looking at the moment is IE doesn't sync to WP8 from W8 or RT.
    That was a bit of an oversight IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭balfe1990


    Etnies wrote: »
    Stay away from Windows phones would be my advice, interface is terrible have the misfortune as having one as my work phone, pain to txt send mails, browse the internet on and the apps are atrocious.

    Are you serious?

    Everything you mentioned above could be considered strong points for WP8...
    Email integration is top-notch, texting is a breeze with an amazing stock keyboard/speech to text client thrown in. IE is zippy and competent, only thing I could lobby against it is the lack of a forward button.

    What do you mean the apps are atrocious? That's quite a broad and ambiguous statement. I rarely have any problems with apps in terms of quality, they always function as expected and look great.

    The "scarcity" of apps isn't ideal, but there's 150,000+ of them so you're always able to find an alternative to the one you're looking for if it's not available. Oftentimes said alternatives are better than their offical counterparts.

    And you're seriously the first person I've ever heard critisise the interface. I personally think it's gorgeous and fresh, which is in stark contrast to the drab, tired and static UI of iOS and to a lesser extent, Droid.

    OT, 215 quid sounds like a pretty killer price. Just don't expect much support from Samsung in the long run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    balfe1990 wrote: »
    Are you serious?

    I could create long list of "cons" for Win Phone if I would be patient enough to remember and record them. Maybe because I use old LG which suppose to run 7.0 not 7.8 as it is at the moment (or rather suppose to be in bin already as it was announced October 2010). Closed apps environment for that system is so much pain - you can't even build simple battery monitor or mobile network enabler. Apps market is full of such crap that it's embarrassing to admit of being programmer. It is nice simple OS if you don't want too much from your phone. But if you have collection of FLVs or Flash on your favorite website - you're in trouble...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 eggnog98


    Is it at all possible to use adobe flash on this phone via an update or ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭marrm


    mad muffin wrote: »


    The Good News: Price now down to €201.99 again. :-)

    The Very Bad News: The system accepts your order but nothing happens. You send in a query, they reply " Sorry, we do not ship abroad" and cancel it. :-(

    But my brother lives in Germany, had it redirected to him. ;-)

    Nicephone, buut no FM radio :-((


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    marrm wrote: »
    The Good News: Price now down to €201.99 again. :-)

    The Very Bad News: The system accepts your order but nothing happens. You send in a query, they reply " Sorry, we do not ship abroad" and cancel it. :-(

    But my brother lives in Germany, had it redirected to him. ;-)

    Nicephone, buut no FM radio :-((

    How long did you wait before contacting customer service?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    eggnog98 wrote: »
    Is it at all possible to use adobe flash on this phone via an update or ?

    NO. The point is that Microsoft created system with small "virtual machine" inside of it. They limited virtual machine to specific set of procedures and let kids (programmers) play with it. It is hard to code anything more than some icons flying across the background when you move/touch you phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    marrm wrote: »
    The Good News: Price now down to €201.99 again. :-)

    The Very Bad News: The system accepts your order but nothing happens. You send in a query, they reply " Sorry, we do not ship abroad" and cancel it. :-(

    But my brother lives in Germany, had it redirected to him. ;-)

    Nicephone, buut no FM radio :-((

    You followed the link I posted and they cancelled your order?:confused:

    I think you are mistaken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    What apps can you get on this?
    (yes I know probably a long list) :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    mathie wrote: »
    What apps can you get on this?
    (yes I know probably a long list) :)
    probably easier if you listed the apps you are after.

    wpcentral is a good source for all things Windows Phone.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭mtdelany


    mathie wrote: »
    What apps can you get on this?
    (yes I know probably a long list) :)


    One of the positives to windows phone is that you can pin any webpage to your start screen, so i have my fantasy football team as an "app"

    Also, search for "microsoft research" they have the best faceswap app


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    mtdelany wrote: »
    One of the positives to windows phone is that you can pin any webpage to your start screen, so i have my fantasy football team as an "app"

    Also, search for "microsoft research" they have the best faceswap app

    I love that face swap app :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    mad muffin wrote: »
    probably easier if you listed the apps you are after.

    wpcentral is a good source for all things Windows Phone.

    Well its just for my dad so Youtube, Gmail (although can possibly switch him to Hotmail - is that even used anymore?), a good Irish news app, LiveScore, FaceBook.

    Thanks
    m


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    mathie wrote: »
    Well its just for my dad so Youtube, Gmail (although can possibly switch him to Hotmail - is that even used anymore?), a good Irish news app, LiveScore, FaceBook.

    Thanks
    m
    rte news, live score and the rest all there.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    I just have to laugh at people slating windows phones
    I have an old one, HTC Radar to be precise running WP7 and its faster than my brothers S3 and my current andriod phone motorola Razr I which is almost identical in terms of performance as the S3 both phones are no slouches.
    The latest WP are just fantastic,im weighing up getting a Nokia 925 or HTC one soon.
    Apart from so called lack of apps [150,000 is enough for me personally] i find windows phones to be brilliant,the latest in particular are excellent.
    Much more efficient OS than andriod or iOS ,battery life always a lot better too although the Razr I has by far the best andriod battery life on the market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭junglecliff


    Anybody get confirmation of delivery??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Anybody get confirmation of delivery??
    What do you mean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭balfe1990


    mathie wrote: »
    Well its just for my dad so Youtube, Gmail (although can possibly switch him to Hotmail - is that even used anymore?), a good Irish news app, LiveScore, FaceBook.

    Thanks
    m
    MyTube is an amazing Youtube app(.99c). The developer is constantly improving it. It's a really beautiful way to watch vids. There's a YT app devved by Microsoft(because Google didn't want to bother their barney making one). At one stage it was brilliant (no ads, could DL vids, watch private and reserved vids etc.), but then Google threw a wobbler and had it neutered, because it was better than their app for Droid, and because it "violated their APIs". Bollocks. That app is simply called Youtube.

    You can just integrate Gmail into the phone, no app required(I think, don't use Gmail). There's a tile that you can pin to your Start screen and it should take you straight to your inbox.
    Hotmail has been totally dissolved in favour of Outlook; which works seamlessly with WP8. The web based Outlook is hugely improved over Hotmail too. If you can, I'd get him to abandon Gmail in favour of Outlook, although I'm pretty sure you can have both running in tandem on the phone.

    The RTÉ app is very good. There's loads of news aggregators too, I'd recommend Weave.

    LiveScore is here, can't comment on it, don't use it.

    And there's a million Facebook apps, they all work more or less the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭balfe1990


    Dcully wrote: »
    I just have to laugh at people slating windows phones
    I have an old one, HTC Radar to be precise running WP7 and its faster than my brothers S3 and my current andriod phone motorola Razr I which is almost identical in terms of performance as the S3 both phones are no slouches.
    The latest WP are just fantastic,im weighing up getting a Nokia 925 or HTC one soon.
    Apart from so called lack of apps [150,000 is enough for me personally] i find windows phones to be brilliant,the latest in particular are excellent.
    Much more efficient OS than andriod or iOS ,battery life always a lot better too although the Razr I has by far the best andriod battery life on the market.
    I think a lot of them just parrot what other people have said in the past. No real notion of what the platform is about.

    Sure, it most definitely has it's downsides, most fledging OS's do, but it's improving by the day and it really was a breath of fresh air to me, switching from Android.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    I use Metrotube for my youtube, again beautiful & functional
    loads of footy apps, i have downloaded 5 but haven't tried all yet
    there are heaps of camera lenses and nokias suite of here apps are available too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 432 ✭✭Kinky Slinky


    My last three phones have been WP. The one thing the platform lacks is quality applications. The OS is really smooth, the only problem is poorly built apps eg.) spotify. Most companies don't care about developing applications for WP and when everyone is using an application(snapchat) forget about joining in on the fun. Microsoft are spending millions in trying to get developers to build applications for the platform so hopefully more quality applications will be developed for the platform.

    Not having certain applications is really annoying and some applications are very poorly built. Google won't build any applications for WP. If you're someone who needs the latest apps do not get this phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Etnies


    balfe1990 wrote: »
    I think a lot of them just parrot what other people have said in the past. No real notion of what the platform is about.

    Sure, it most definitely has it's downsides, most fledging OS's do, but it's improving by the day and it really was a breath of fresh air to me, switching from Android.

    Apparently the 30+ engineers in the company I work for who are forced to use both W7 and now W8 phones are all wrong, everyone agrees they are crap, the list of every day annoyances is endless.

    Maybe one of you can help me with one of them though, how do I change my default search engine to something that actually finds stuff like Google, as Bing is useless in IE.

    The 150,000 apps hardly any of them are usable, they are all crap that dont work, even the viber app is slow, suppose this will be better in the future tho.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Etnies wrote: »
    Apparently the 30+ engineers in the company I work for who are forced to use both W7 and now W8 phones are all wrong, everyone agrees they are crap, the list of every day annoyances is endless.

    Maybe one of you can help me with one of them though, how do I change my default search engine to something that actually finds stuff like Google, as Bing is useless in IE.

    The 150,000 apps hardly any of them are usable, they are all crap that dont work, even the viber app is slow, suppose this will be better in the future tho.

    Must be crap engineers that know sweet F all what they are on about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I've had 5 Android phones (my last one being a Galaxy Note 2) and while I loved it, I got bored with Android in the end to be honest.

    WP7 wasn't up to much but the new WP8 phones/OS are a serious step up (have a Lumia 920, HTC 8s and a Samsung Ativ S in the office) so I recently swiched over to the Lumia 920 and haven't looked back... excellent battery life, very fast and importantly, no lag (unlike even my Note 2). As for apps, I haven't found anything I'm missing and use the mobile site for AIB which is the same as the Android app anyway.

    WP is definitely improving rapidly and the latest update is better again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭marrm


    mad muffin wrote: »
    You followed the link I posted and they cancelled your order?:confused:

    I think you are mistaken.

    Waddayamean I'm be mistaken:

    Ordered it

    Item was marked "not dispatched" for 3 days

    Contacted amazon.de

    They said they do not dispatch abroad, offered to cancel or send to any address in Germany.

    Had it sent to my brother's German address.

    You know better?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Etnies


    Dcully wrote: »
    Must be crap engineers that know sweet F all what they are on about.

    And why is that cause you say so? Great response tho. I take it you haven't got a solution to my issue though no?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Etnies wrote: »
    And why is that cause you say so? Great response tho. I take it you haven't got a solution to my issue though no?


    I already said whats great about w phones.
    oh our engineers say they are crap so em! errrr! eh!!! they must be crap :rolleyes:
    Parrot springs to mind :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Etnies


    Not at all lad, I stated my opinion and that of about 30 others I work with and you came on to contradict me to tell me 'that i know sweet fck all' because I don't agree with you ha. and you're right great battery life is the high point of the OS i'll agree with that.

    You haven't found out how to change from Bing for me yet have you?

    Enjoy your phone anyway


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,723 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Etnies wrote: »
    Not at all lad, I stated my opinion and that of about 30 others I work with and you came on to contradict me to tell me 'that i know sweet fck all' because I don't agree with you ha. and you're right great battery life is the high point of the OS i'll agree with that.

    You haven't found out how to change from Bing for me yet have you?

    Enjoy your phone anyway
    Wasn't referring to you knowing sweet f all man, I meant the engineers, sorry for confusion.
    I haven't owned a W8 phone yet(played around with a mates one a few times though) so can't help with bling issue, I hate it on my W7 phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    marrm wrote: »
    Waddayamean I'm be mistaken:

    Ordered it

    Item was marked "not dispatched" for 3 days

    Contacted amazon.de

    They said they do not dispatch abroad, offered to cancel or send to any address in Germany.

    Had it sent to my brother's German address.

    You know better?

    That's strange. I ordered it and got it last week from amazon.de and a few people have received theirs the last couple of days.

    Are you sure you ordered it from a amazon and not a third party?


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Etnies wrote: »
    You haven't found out how to change from Bing for me yet have you?

    This took me literally 5 seconds to find.

    http://snippets.pocketprimer.com/2013/05/24/change-the-default-search-engine-for-your-windows-phone-8.aspx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Etnies wrote: »
    Not at all lad, I stated my opinion and that of about 30 others I work with and you came on to contradict me to tell me 'that i know sweet fck all' because I don't agree with you ha. and you're right great battery life is the high point of the OS i'll agree with that.

    You haven't found out how to change from Bing for me yet have you?

    Enjoy your phone anyway

    If you are talking about the systemwide search as represented by the capacitive search button, then you can't.
    It is a Windows Phone and search stretches throughout the OS, so of course MS are going to use their own technology.

    Changing the default search engine in IE itself is carrier/manufacturer dependent apparently.

    I'm talking about WP8.


    HTH.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman




    Was that Bing or Google search? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Etnies wrote: »
    Apparently the 30+ engineers in the company I work for who are forced to use both W7 and now W8 phones are all wrong, everyone agrees they are crap, the list of every day annoyances is endless.

    Maybe one of you can help me with one of them though, how do I change my default search engine to something that actually finds stuff like Google, as Bing is useless in IE.

    The 150,000 apps hardly any of them are usable, they are all crap that dont work, even the viber app is slow, suppose this will be better in the future tho.

    I have *everything I need, just saying.
    (I also own an HTC One so I ain't anti-Android at all)
    The million or whatver it is apps on Play and the Applestore - a good guess would be 99% of them are shít and useless.

    *Just waiting on my Danske Bank app, they have apps for all Scandinavian markets already.

    PS This is getting way OT on a Bargain Alerts thread!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭balfe1990


    Etnies wrote: »
    Maybe one of you can help me with one of them though, how do I change my default search engine to something that actually finds stuff like Google, as Bing is useless in IE.

    The 150,000 apps hardly any of them are usable, they are all crap that dont work, even the viber app is slow, suppose this will be better in the future tho.

    Sure, it has it's niggles, but it's pretty much still in it's infancy. It does mostly everything that I want it to do, and it does it well. If you're some sort of engineer whizzkid who wants VPNs and WiFis and other stuff that I don't understand, then you may have a legit complaint. But I wouldn't know.

    As for your question; depending on your carrier and make of phone, go to Settings>Applications>IE>Advanced and you should see an option to "change default search provider". It's not available on mine, possibly because I bought it unlocked from the UK.

    Alternatively (and this is perhaps an even better idea), you can DL the Google search app and pin it to your Start Screen. Boom, instant search with one press.

    And the bolded part, I'm not going to address. It's nonsense and you know it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Etnies


    Yea I was using that, but there's no back button which is why I wanted to use the browser, things like this is what I'm talking about tiny stupid annoyances.

    There is no option to change search engine in IE on my O2 phone either.

    Email aswell there is no easy way to get into deleted items, drafts etc, for instance you need 4 taps to access it.. Why? why not have it easily accessible like every thing else.

    And the apps I'm right about, if you took away all the Youtube and Flashlight apps there wouldnt be any apps left ha.

    Also is there a Step by Step navigation satnav app? I havent been able to find one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭junglecliff


    ordered but no movement or cash taken??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Etnies wrote: »
    Yea I was using that, but there's no back button which is why I wanted to use the browser, things like this is what I'm talking about tiny stupid annoyances.

    In the Google made Google app? The capacitive back button is the back button!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Etnies


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    In the Google made Google app? The capacitive back button is the back button!

    Oh never tried it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    ordered but no movement or cash taken??

    It takes a few days to start processing and they don't take the money until they ship.

    Once shipped it arrived the next day.


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